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What is the worst form of government, and why is it Communism?

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Because communism.

>form of government
>communism

try again user

Communism was a mistake

The only good commie is a dead commie

Because it is the most extreme rejection of human nature. The one good Communist is the one that has made peace with himself before the firing squad pulls the triggers.

>t. Cuban

Because giving power to people who don't deserve it always leads to abuses of power.

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The worst form of government is fascism.
Reasons:
They left their countries in smouldering ruins. They needed just a decade to do so.
There are no fascist nations currently.

Communism is top-tier government:
It offers great benefit to the people: education, rapid industrialisation, wealth growth etc.
There are communist governments now, including one of the most powerful nations.

Communism is stateless. "Communists" (and "communist governments") strive towards communism (supposedly), but to this day there has only been interim socialism.

Communism is the greatest, said the guy speaking english on an american network powered by american technology

my parents (especially my dad) often talked of how communism was the worst thing ever to happen to Cuba my dad was born after the revolution but my grandfather fought for the revolution later he denounced it before he died my mom talked of how hard she and her family worked on a rural ranch atop a mountain to be given nothing in return for their labour I fail to see how one can follow an ideology that only makes everyone poor and if you dare speak against el presidente you face imprisonment my dad got into a bar fight and got jailed for a year seems fair right but the real question is why do people keep on supporting a failed idea and why is there so much praise during the revolution but once it stops the people are left with nothing to rally behind
>inb4 you have to go back
i was born in the Cayman islands i only came here a few months ago

...from a country that use to be the bastion of communism and is now the bastion of unbounded capitalism.

America is greater than Russia, and you can't into logic.

Your argument is invalid, it has literally nothing to do with what I said.

Ban Canadian IPs

>have an opinion
>get shot
such is life in eastern bloc

People here support it because the comforts of capitalism and free speech have lulled them into a false sense of security about it. Mommy's little suburban comrade has never been thrown into a gulag for 18 months. They rep the hammer and sickle because that's their way of rebelling. They have no idea how much worse it really is to raise a hammer and sickle over a swastika. They're braindead, cornbread-fed fucking retards who have never known what it means to be hungry. They're just experienceless morons who believe anything on paper that sounds nice can be achieved flawlessly in real life.

Communism is founded on the contradictory belief that humans are naturally exploitative and that the solution to this would be to have an all-powerful state, implicitly run by individuals that are not abusers because communism.

what you have said is true but it has no meaning. WHY ever in the world would you want to fight for your people to be oppressed, poor, and polio ridden i mean people always say MUH FREE EDUMACATION AND HELTCARE my mother studied medicine in cuba she litteraly said that she would wake up to rats knawging on her skin in her dormatory and how in some hallways of the hospital there would only be one light illuminating it
>be me
>be 12 visiting cuba
>walking to family house
>see a guy with polio
>"mom didnt they cure that"
>this is cuba sweetie

Because "huur duty the profit motive is flawed, we shall rely on philanthropy and goodwill for advancement"
>oh god this is horrible send in the soldiers

Communism is a broken theory. It can never exist in a stateless society because the vast majority of people do not want to live under it. Therefore, it can and only has existed previously by being enforced militarily.

That's the thing: THEY REALLY DON'T THINK COMMUNISM IS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE FUCKING STUPID.

THAT'S IT. THEY'RE FUCKING STUPID.

If it doesn't make sense, it's because they're fucking stupid.

Communism is not a form of government it's a form of economics.

>Islam is just a religion, not a form of government
Tell that to the people who have lived under it.

>communism
>form of government

how do we get rid of these people

A communist government is an oxymoron. So to answer your question OP socialism and Marxist-Leninist state capitalism are the worst forms of government.

National Communism.

That's forced on everyone, whether they want it or not, by the government.

Usually by pointing Kalashnikovs at people and threatening them with one way trips to the gulag.

>Stalinism is communism

wew prole

Bullets and eugenics.
We tried letting them live. It didn't work. There is no other way.

Define fascism

>my mother studied medicine in cuba she litteraly said that she would wake up to rats knawging on her skin in her dormatory and how in some hallways of the hospital there would only be one light illuminating it

Meanwhile in glorious capitalism...

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>Detroit

I've never seen a more blatant example of cherry-picking in my life.

Ok do you want New York.

nydailynews.com/new-york/rats-new-york-article-1.2371159

Are you arguing that NYC would be in a better situation under a communist state?

Hi ted.

Dunno, maybe they should try it and see. At least they're used to rats and cockroaches and trash, so it can't be that much worse.

>city run by democrats

That's not what I mean at all. Go back 50~100 years in the past and turn the US into a commie state. Do you think in 2016 that NYC would be better than the NYC we have right now?

How about a state that isn't run by people whose politics mostly align with communism? That would be a good start, and it would sure as fuck take the focus off of how communist policies lead to things like Detroit. Try Missouri, for example. I live here. So far as I see, things are fine.

fuck of Lyin' Ted

Could be. I mean, compare Moscow before and after communism.

>state that isn't run by people whose politics mostly align with communism
Ok, which one?

>at least they're used to rats and cockroaches

So communism shouldn't be that big of a change in lifestyle standards, since they're over halfway there, already. Good point.

>Try Missouri, for example.

Nice dodge. Every fucking time.

Sorry, I skimmed over it and only replied to the first half!

nydailynews.com/news/national/kansas-city-homeless-lived-underground-tunnels-article-1.1311409

There you go, you have an underground city of mole men!

>Run by Democrats

I live in a red, capitalist county. We have no such problem here. Care to try again?

Oh Jesus Christ, how would I know who's running what county in the US.

I think someone else said it ITT but communism will not work realistically 99.9% of the time because it requires an overthrow of the government by the people, a society that is stateless, and for this to work, group-think at the highest level...if anyone disagrees (even though, hypothetically, there is no force or retaliation) communism won't work. This is why communist (or authoritarian in nature) societies have an immense military/police force to keep things in check.

When Marx theorized of communism, he saw the proletariats as the equivalent to the serfs in the medieval period and the tradesmen/lowly merchants in the fuedal era. He didn't realize how capitalism would evolve overtime and how much power and freedom the proletariats actually had (especially in the 20th century)

There's actually a very simple heuristic you can go by: If it's a major city in the U.S. and it's a shithole, it's run by your people. Not even memeing. They're always Democrat. Any American will tell you as much.

>I think someone else said it ITT but communism will not work realistically 99.9% of the time
And neither does your magical invisible hand.

So you agree Communism doesn't work 99.9% of the time? Great, there's some progress.

Nothing works 99.9% of the time, that's kind of what I've been trying to show with these stupid rats and whatnot. It's all shit because people in power are shit. Barring an enlightened absolutist, we're fucked no matter what.