Reminder you live in a non-country if you don't have an aircraft carrier

Reminder you live in a non-country if you don't have an aircraft carrier.

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does it still count if it has a >ramp?

How does this apply to landlocked countries? I think an aircraft carrier to defend a carp farming pond is overkill.

Yeah but we get to make fun of it

But who was put put put put put put put

What about those?

We got two of them, so it's almost like an aircraft carrier.

>landlocked
>country

LOL

lol is that a ramp?

>landing strip
>not aircraft carrier

then what the fuck is it? a bantership?

>hue
you have to go back

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It's mostly for rollerblading I reckon.

FUCKING

id rather have no aircraft carrier than have the Admiral Kunetzov

youtube.com/watch?v=4uyflDa44Gk

>aircraft carrier

>Designation: L01

but coal powered aircraft carrier are the future

and so you don't and never will

>fueled by burning leaves

how comes the ruskies didnt put a nuclear reactor on it?

What is it with this anti-ramp bigotry? They make sense on smaller carriers, the only advantage of not having one is that you can land planes from the other direction in an emergency, but smaller carriers don't have enough aircraft for that to ever be likely to happen.

Egypt can thank us they just became a country thanks to us and russia

>this faggot gives a shit about climate change
Get rekt m8, when you fuckers die of thirst and disease and invading USA migrants, we will be kings. We will build a wall to keep you out and turn ex-permafrost lands into endless fields.

US provides direct protection to Canada... that means we can post here too, right?

Your airplanes and ships constantly surround Canada and we don't mind so just keep doing what you're doing

Underrated

If you've never nuked another country, you're a non country.

We've had one before though.

You've just been RAMPED goy!

>Trust me goy, this is how real planes fly.
Thus the eternal anglo strikes again.

Carps are dangerous beasts. I saw one bite a dwarf in half. I suggest you use ASM helicopters to take these fuckers out.

Not an argument

Well guess we are a country now.

What if our nuclear test sites are in another country nowadays?

>the only picture of HRS Le Ramp with planes is CGI

you live in a non country unless you have a cross in your flag.

If the countries in question were historically not Russian and just became part of the Soviet bloc post ww2 I'll let you have it

My uncle has a boat and i can fit paper planes on it.
Does that count?

>gives a shit about climate change
no but if i was a general i wouldnt want to have my military deal with a piece of shit jalopy of a boat more unreliable than a rusted out 30 year old car that constantly breaks down and needs a fucking tugboat to travel with it at all times. at this point id be taking out the engines and just making it into a barge for the tugboat to tow since thats what happens most of the time anyways

sell that shitty "carrier" for scrap metal and sell the tugboat. youd have enough money from just the scrap metal to build a 15x better boat

also why did you sell your good carrier to the indians and keep the shit one?

RAMP

Kinda makes me wonder why we didn't go with the Wasp class if we're never going to equip them with F-35s

we need to fucking rebuild that along with relaunching the Arrow project. we could definitely do it if we got a proper government that didnt give a shit ton of money to 3rd world shitholes to be spent by dictators

>no ramp
feels great

>also why did you sell your good carrier to the indians and keep the shit one?

because the indians will actually use it against the pakis
it is a pity to have such nice ships and leave them unused because you dont have any conflict worth using them in

Try taking the Falklands again, and we'll see how CGI our force projection is

>tfw india replaced the viraat so i cant make fun of them for having one of the oldest aircraft carriers ever built as their flagship any more

Fuck you why cant you just spend all your money on your space program?

we might as well do it, your carrier has no planes, and your cruisers will have no missiles next year

hey Ivan, would you sell us some planes?

The Chinese carrier program is partly based off Australia selling them our last proper carrier for scrap, does that count?

I don't think we'll ever use it, but at least we have one.

Is it true that it has a glass bottom so that the sailors can appreciate the old Spanish navy?

>Tfw the only country in the south hemisfere which has an aircraft carrier

chinese are gonna use that against you...

very nice ship indeed

Oh fuck Armada bantz ITS ON

Reminder that you're a non-country if you can't make good chocolate.

>S
>A
>V
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>G
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but seriously you bitches just got lucky that time.

benis.

Also, remember that if you are a non-country, you don't have a world cup won

>He felt for the anglo propaganda.
Everyone at the time laugh their asses at how bad the english navy was
>Under water
>Feminine
Kek things never change

Did the whole fucking world other than us, Russia and China just decide to disarm in the last 20 years? What the fuck are you people doing, we have crusades and shit to handle.

>need cocoa beans imported
>have to transport them though other countries from the sea

Carrier are overrated, I mean it's nice to have one but better have islands in every ocean.
Only anglos will understand this message.

We have the worlds largest aircraft carrier

Reminder that my non-countrybmanaged to defeat your country multiple times during practice scenarios

>practice scenarios

>implying Russia wouldn't just drop a nuke on your carriers

...

We loaned out equipment and crew to US. Our militay btfo the US military

>All this damage control

I love being american

what do you want? me to suck your dick?

>tfw when cocklust
>tfw forever alone

does it have to have actual aircraft to count?

RAMPS FOR CHAMPS

COALBURNERS

CATOBAR is superior in almost all regards. The only exception being you need less crew and expertise and less things can go wrong with a ramp.

Keep in mind we invented the technology.

kek

At least you're white, right?

Admiral Kunetzov is more of a battle carrier, its got a pretty fair amount of firepower even without its airwing

whats with the mexican tier photoshop around the dinghy there

One of these and your expensive carrier is gone.

This

Come at me hippies.

yeah we outsource our photoshop now

white according to your standards?

Get fucked eurotrash.

looks like the boat a captain planet villain would sail

Sorry, not a photoshop

What's it like flying off of one of these?

Definitely not

:(

>A fucking ramp
Is a meme

>Nuclear power
For every active nuclear carrier you need 3 more in refit/refuelling/traveling. For the 10 CVN's you have you only get 2 active, without the 11th you will have a gap soon where you will only have one on station.
10 Nuclear carriers
1 active.


>There is no US carrier operating today in the Middle East, a situation that is the product of several years of high-tempo operations and the need to catch up on major maintenance put off to sustain that pace. Carriers have been absent before, the last time was in 2007, but this gap has caught a lot of people's attention, even more so as another will occur in 2016 in the Pacific operating area.
defensenews.com/story/defense/naval/2015/11/03/congress-forbes-courtney-stackley-moore-navy-naval-aircraft-carriers-ford-kennedy-enterprise-gap-middle-east-centcom-pacom/75119168/


>When the carrier Theodore Roosevelt leaves the Persian Gulf this fall, U.S. Central Command will be without a flattop for as long as two months 2015
navytimes.com/story/military/2015/07/30/richardson-hearing-confirmation-senate-mccain-gillibrand/30882305/


>The U.S. Navy is facing a looming shortage of aircraft carriers in the Western Pacific and the Middle East this year going without an aircraft carrier for months.
>“There is no easy way to take a ten-carrier force and operate it like you have sixteen, at some point the wheels will come off the cart.”
>In recent years the U.S. Navy’s carrier force has shrunk to only ten ships. The Navy is required to operate eleven carriers by law, but the Pentagon applied for a waiver to keep only ten ships in service.
>The gap between Enterprise’s retirement and Ford’s entry into service is much longer than anyone had anticipated. “It was supposed to be a fourteen-month gap at ten carriers and now the gap will be almost eight years
nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/us-navys-dangerous-carrier-shortage-the-pacific-14848

ABOARD THE HMS ILLUSTRIOUS
What's the definition of heaven if you're a Marine Harrier pilot? Why, spending two weeks on one of Britain's aircraft carriers, of course.


What's not to like? The flying's awesome, the food and quarters are great, and you can get a drink at the end of the day, said Maj. Stephan Poppy Bradicich, the executive officer of Marine Attack Squadron 542 who helped plan the unprecedented embarkation of 16 Harriers and 200 Marines aboard HMS Illustrious, known as 'Lusty' to its crew.


The largest-ever embark of Marine personnel and aircraft aboard a foreign warship July 15-31 was part of Joint Task Force Exercise Operation Bold Step 07-02 that included the Harry S. Truman and Dwight D. Eisenhower strike groups, to prepare Truman for its upcoming deployment.


The accommodations and food drew high marks from the Marines. They enjoyed everything from curry night to such traditional Royal Navy dishes as hammy eggy cheesy, toast layered with shredded ham, an egg and covered with melted cheese and kippered herrings along with eggs, bacon and beans for breakfast, or haggis and bashed neeps (mashed turnips) for dinner. The ship even features "Chips at Six", fresh french fries served in the bar before dinner.


Other pluses? A roomy, teak quarterdeck aft to take a quiet break or take in a sunset, beautifully varnished wooden ladders and generous carpeting (which are stripped when the ship goes into battle) and Internet connectivity that works every time.
But one of the most satisfying things is that the ship is a strike carrier where Harriers, not helicopters, are the priority.
This is the Royal Navy's A team, and they live and breathe strike, said Col. Eric 'Beans' Van Camp, the commanding officer of Marine Aircraft Group 14, who also commanded the U.S. air group aboard Illustrious. On a gator, the Harriers are secondary to the amphibious and helicopter mission.
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listen here frog clearly you said

Then there is the piece de resistance, the 20-foot-long blond oak bar that is the centrepiece of a spacious lounge, part of the wardroom annex where off-duty officers can draw a pint, dram, cocktail, coffee or tea and reflect on the day and prepare for tomorrow.
Everyone's working really hard, but it's also OK to relax afterward with a beer, within the rules we live by, Van Camp said. The challenge is maintaining that balance between mission and safety.
If you're flying the next day, you're not drinking, nor are you staying up late, Bradicich said as he sipped a soft drink.

Its a great tool that we don't have, Bradicich said. On our ships, there's no place where you can really unwind, get to know your shipmates on a personal level, and solve disagreements. Our view is that if you have free time, you should be doing something other than hanging around. Here, everyone works just as hard, but they also know how to unwind. It's a huge philosophical difference.

That philosophical difference manifests in the relaxed atmosphere aboard the ship, including the relationship between officers and ratings, British for enlisted personnel.
Case in point? Expect a cheery 'good morning' as you make your way down the passage or an offer for help if you look lost. And in a welcome relief for the American contingent, the 1MC system doesn't crackle with announcements 24 hours a day, and the officers don't carry radios to contact one another or the captain.
When you have a third of the ship asleep at any given time, it doesn't make much sense to be waking them by blaring unnecessary announcements every few minutes, one British officer said.


In fact, the only announcement is from the operations centre that details the day's plan and tests important alarms. The only other time you hear the loudspeaker is when there's a problem, such as a fire or engineering casualty.
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How to military

lobby for "helicopter landing dock" claim it will be useful for "disaster relief" etc

order with ramp, hope no one notices

Wait

lobby for carrier capable jets since we already have a carrier

Hope based PM doesn't get back stabbed by cucked PM,

Fuck

These ships bug me because all of them hve the same big problem: They're incredibly expensive to operate, and laughably prone to surprise attacks.

What's to stop a diver from swimming up to one with a bunch of limpet explosives, then detonating them all once attached so that even if the ship has many chambers for floatation most are rapidly filling with water thanks to a series of large holes?
Well, not necessarily swimming, an underwater jetski might be more practical.

You wouldn't even need to go the stealth route; Phalanx turrets often have blind spots, if the carrier even has a missile defence system, and even if there is full anti-missile coverage there's no hope against a barrage of smaller projectiles.
It doesn't take much firepower at all to destroy a carrier, many missiles can do it single-handedly.

The thing is, aircraft carriers are very mediocre ships, mediocre ships that carry a good portion of the nation's air force on board.

In a full-scale war, an aircraft carrier could even backfire: they can barely defend themselves if they don't have a chance to deploy aircraft, and a decent infantry force landed on the carrier coupled with helicopter support could make the deck inaccessible, so it's not entirely unrealistic that an aircraft carrier could get its planes stolen.

And why don't the officers carry radios like their American counterparts? What the bloody hell do you need a radio for? the British officer asked. You know the plan, what the captain's intentions and expectations are. As an officer, your job is to lead, and if you need to talk to the captain all the time, then you're not doing your job or letting him do his.


Another philosophical difference is that the British are open to ideas that to Americans seem goofy, but work, such as the 12-degree ramp at the bow of the ship that dramatically improves Harrier operations. Senior U.S. naval officers over the decades have vetoed the idea, saying they don't like how it looks and that it takes up three helicopter landing spots. British and Marine officers say only one deck spot is lost to the 'ski jump.


To a man, Marine pilots want the ramps installed on their ships to improve operational flexibility and safety.


We're all in love with the ski ramp because when you come off that ramp, you're flying, Bradicich said. From our ships, if you're fully loaded, you need 750 feet, and even then you've got some sink once you clear the deck. Here, you can do the same thing in 450 feet and you're climbing.


But the ramp is intimidating at first sight, pilots said.


I expected it to be violent, but when you take off, it's almost a non-event, said Maj. Grant 'Postal' Pennington, a pilot with VMA-513 at Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Ariz. Up you go, and you're climbing. It's a great experience.


Equally important is the ship that's bolted to the ramp, pilots said.


Some of our guys who haven't flown from our ships yet are in for a big surprise when they do. This is probably the best ship you could possibly fly a Harrier from. Its not very big, but it's really stable, no roll, just a little pitch, not like the flat-bottom gators that roll so much. Youve got the island moving 30 feet in each direction when you're trying to land. That tends to get your attention.
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The combination of ski ramp, stability and dedicated crew contributed to a breakneck operational pace. The Marines proudly logged a ship record 79 takeoffs and landings in one day.

These guys are great. We've qualed 28 guys in three days, most with eight landings and takeoffs, so even though we said that we were going to crawl, walk, run, our pace has been tremendous, even with different procedures, Pennington said. We like to approach the ship at 45 degrees and hit one of the spots, but they approach from dead astern, come to a hover abeam, slide over, then drop down to the deck. It's different, but you get the hang of it.

The only downside? The thought that we're going to have to get off, Bradicich said.
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>île Amsterdam
Give back clay

Yeah same with the subs that can be made nuclear in future blocks if we can dropkick all the greens faggots.

ok, nice autism

>Tfw the only country in the south hemisfere which has an aircraft carrier
Marco Paulo isn't even a fleet in waiting, she's constantly on fire and has been in repair and refit since 2012
>São Paulo was expected to rejoin the fleet in late 2013, but suffered another major fire in 2012. As of September 2016, she continued to undergo repairs; the commander of the Brazilian Navy, Admiral Eduardo Leal Ferreira, said plans were in place to renew the carrier's propulsion system. The ship's catapult was also reported to have issues.

We're full btw

Reminder you live in non country if you dont have culture

Make that 2005, so 11 years

Is cleaning toilets really a culture though?