>be me
>25 year old NEET
>Live at home with parents all my life
>conversations with parents have become grunts. I'm sure they are disappointed with me by now.
>want to be well rounded person and educated
>have a hard time retaining information
>sleep cycle is beyond fucked
>diet is poor
>smoke and drink a lot.
How can I turn my life around.
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How about Not doing all of those things you listed?
Similar situation except 21 and i don't grunt at my parents coz i'm not a disrespectful dog (Aside from still being home jobless)
plz help me
Enlist faggot
Obtain muscles.
Go to the gym, or buy adjustable dumbells + plates, a gym bench, and a pull-up bar.
Buy alarm clock and wake-up with the sun.
You can take pride in getting /fit/.
Wtf
isn't that what every kid always dreamed of?
discipline.
Practice.
More discipline.
Get a job. Any job.
Spend the money you earn on a good therapist.
How do you know it's a good therapist? You make progress. If you don't, pick another therapist.
>neet
>buying anything
Sounds like you're living the life
Get a wageslave job, rent apartment, wageslave until death, people come to your funeral, they proud to met good goy. Everybody goes own way, forget about you. That's life kiddo.
>stop eating after 5pm
>sleep improves and you get tired in the evening
It's literally magic.
Forcibly reset your circadian rhythms. Set an alarm for 7am, wake up. Eat a small something, powerbar, yogurt and fruit, etc. Go lift hard before 10 am. Come home, eat a healthy protein-based lunch, browse craigslist, Monster.com, media bistro, odesk, whatever for a source of income for 2 hours, sending out at least 5 resumes per hour.
Afternoon, have your chill/internet/movies/vidya time. Then dinner. No screens after dinner. Read a book, etc and go to bed by 10. Congrats, you're 80% of a normal fucking human. When interview offers begin rolling it, you'll be able to be normal-ish at an 8:30 meeting, land the job, and then join the miserable thankless, suicidally pointless grind the rest of us have been in for 15 years. Or don't.
Stop smoking and start lifting weights
Discipline yourself
Drink only on weekends
Buy the book thank me later
>smoke and drink a lot
start using drugs also
get a job
you're going to hate it but it will make you feel better about yourself. I am just like you except that I got a job and now I'm somewhat useful to society and I don't feel like a lazy piece of shit all the time
Ask your parents of course.
If they're the kind of parents that let their NEET child live with them at 25, they'll probably buy you beneficial things at the very least like weight-lifting equipment and an alarm clock.
I'm a NEET in my 20s with no money and my mommy buys me all kinds of things. She would literally let me live with her as a NEET for the rest of her life, I don't think she wants me to move out.
tell your parents that you aren't happy with where your life is going and you're sorry for mistreating them in the past. tell them you want to see a counselor or therapist or something and get a job/education
also get some god damn goals
if you have no vision, no nothing you want for the world, then you're going to just lay around and get drunk and smoke and eat all day. at least if you had some kind of vision, you'd see those other things as a waste of time, a waste of a day
Start learning how to do things you hate. There's no magic trick for free stuff until Bernie is elected.
Lift weights.
Go to /fit/, READ THE FUCKING STICKY, and go from there.
Get a job you scumbag.
honestly this, but i'm only saying that because you're a 25 year old neet, if you were like 19 you could still change your habits on your own
Start by exercising your mind.
Join the U.S. Marines (if they will take you). Maybe they can make a man out of you.
take the gold key. its value is significantly greater than silver. disregard the waifu and generate profit.
really want to change?
no computer 2h before bed, work out, meditate every hour for 2-5 min recalling last hour what you did, stop watching porn(yes it fucks ur willpower and long-term cognition + recall) stop smoking obviously. now enjoy your new life, which still sucks but you need to get good at what you excel at. go to uni
>Live at home with parents all my life
This is obviously what lowers your self esteem the worst. Move out. Even if you'll end up living in shitty conditions, or rather precisely because of it, you'll develop to be responsible and independent. Getting a job is not even that hard when you do not have a loan to pay back, just be an honest blue collar (but red pilled) worker. Simplicity is also a virtue.
Both options have a 75% chance of working, it does matter which you choose.
It would be better to take the gold key though simply because it's more valuable and you could sell it afterwards.
DONNY YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT
Too lazy to calculate the probabilities of the silver, but pretty sure the golden is better
>Implying 1 gold key > 3 silver keys
The three silver keys.
>American education
Silver keys have a 2/3 chance opposed to the 0.75 chance of the gold key. Now go figure out why.
nope, the gold key has a 75% chance of working.
the silver keys *each* have a 75% chance of working, so you'd have to have two successful rolls for it to work. i'm not positive, but i think the silver option has a 56.25% chance of working.
become a janitor. it's super easy and pays decent enough. just show up and listen to music/twitch/whatever and do your job. then when your parents die inherit their house and money. you'll be safe for retirement then. it's not hard user.
by now you developped few problems
1) due to sleeping pattern probably lack of vitamin D3 --- which can be awful for motivation
2) you drain all your energy with lurking and torturing your brain with misplaced attention
3) alcohol and cigarettes are making it all worse
remedies:
1) buy vitamin D3 supplement pills (high dosage)
2) learn simple breath meditation
3) exercise a bit, quit smoking and drinking
Life is fixed in 3 easy steps you (probably) won't follow.
gold is over $1100/ounce. silver is like $11 per ounce. I didn't think chileans were total retards. guess i was wrong.
Start reading about how money and economics work.
Get rid of all the degenerate faggots in your life. Show me your friends, I'll show you your future.
Figure out what your passions are and how to make money off them. Everything on this planet generates money for someone. Figure out how the things you like do that, then figure out how you can do that for yourself.
There's hope. I was a NEET miserable faggot all through my 20s. I made it. So will you.
>useful to society
so living for the greater good of the societal system while in turn sacrificing your own time, life, energy in the process is better than maximizing what little lifetime, energy, etc you actually have by pursuing things that exclusively interest or benefit you yourself?
i'm starting to think that humans are really just herd like beings and it takes a real gutsy daredevil to actually live for himself and not for being "useful to society".
btw i'm a neet and would literally rather die a brutal death than get a jobby
This.
same here but im 26 although i dont smoke or drink. my parents are enablers and i need to distance myself from them but idk how to find work or convince anyone to hire me since i have no skills or experience or even basic social skills since i been a shut-in hermit my whole life. ive been depressed for as long as i can remember and have no drive and nothing really interests me. lost.
how long does military service last? it doesnt interest me but i dont think im capable of being anything more than a drone in my current state.
This is copy paste shit that's helping me but idk if i'll help you.
>have absolutely nothing to show for your life in a world that you hate with people you will never be able to connect with
Long shot that might not do shit for you but this is how i went from being a socially retarded 5'8 manlet spic loner to a an intellectual alpha who's fucking hot white girls and working as a researcher.
do
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Actually read the description
Read your strengths and weakness
Google whatever personality type you are and read more into it
Look up your primary and secondary functions and work on them, those 2 functions are your fucking super powers. Maybe work on your third later in life when your more experience.
Look up everything you hate about yourself physically, if you walk weird figure out why and fix it, if you jerk off everyday get a life so you aren't draining your motivation through your cock
Take a risk because men are literally meant to take physical / social / intellectual risk and fail and get up and do it again. That's what men are evolved to do.
If your 32+ you're too old to do anything really. The most based thing you could do is get a good job and start a family which will fulfill your life and give you purpose. If you only have 2 kids your a faggot, if you have 3-5 kids and actually raise them great with discipline and logic your life isn't meaningless.
Late game, how to make your children attractive.
how to be Attractive
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3/4 vs 3/4*3/4*3/4
3/4 vs 27/64
3/4 vs less than half
Obviously the golden key. Let my waifu be free and go on to burning coal.
>>have a hard time retaining information
>>sleep cycle is beyond fucked
>>diet is poor
>>smoke and drink a lot.
The first line is due to the last 3 lines. Fix your diet, stop smoking and drinking, go to bed at regular times, make sure your sleep environment is right ( dark, cool, quiet ).
If you are a NEET then you have plenty of time to focus on your health. That is step one towards un-fucking your life.
25 year old means nothing you stupid kid. You are in the "learning about life" phase. Your golden age is between 30-45 as a man. Stop whining and start lifting, you have 5 years left
Also ignore your parents, this is your life and you decide what to do with it. Just don't be a pussi
I SWEAR when I first read the image that "each" was not there.
Of course 3 attempts at a 75% chance is better than 1 attempt at a 75% chance, you would have to be mentally retarded to think otherwise, however the image didn't have the word "each" in it when I first read it, which would mean "both have a 75% chance".
It is some sort of hacking that changed the image.
>Show me your friends
What if I have no friends? Have no trouble making and keeping them, just think that having to stay in contact and hang out with people to stay friends is a pain.
I think the normal term is 4 years, not including training.
You can study for the AVSAB or ASVAB or whatever the fuck it is.
also adding that if your non-inverted you'd probably want to pactice socializing at this point.
If your inverted (which is likely) or strongly emotional i'd suggest going infront of a mirror and practicing social ques. IMO some types are incapable of being normal. You're going to have to find your inner self, the best version of yourself and live your life as a Dr.House / Hunter Tomson / Jack Sparrow / Patrice ONeal type character thats true to yourself. It sound cringy on Sup Forums but if you can pull it off i'll make you larger then life.
Sup Forums is full of good ol' boys who think the best life is werkin hard, drinkin beer at night, watchin' tv, sleepin', and doin' it all again the next day until they retire and die.
oh and somewhere along the line find me a good wife and have a kid cus momma said baby be a simple kind of man, be somethin' your dopey dumb brain can understand...
you have been infected by christianity and scientific materialism, swinging helplessly between two extreme poles, one promising eternal life after one earth life, the other promising annihilation upon death; the truth is neither, the truth is reincarnation, the truth is that you're stuck getting born again and again, working, "contributing to muh society", until you wake the fuck up and escape the vicious cycle.
right now, you're living in a one life only dream, blissfully unaware that as soon as you die you'll be in a new womb, ready to work and do all your lame normalfag shit all over again.
All the better my friend. For me, trying to impress and help degenerate fucks was what led to my failures in my 20s.
That and being incredibly naive about how the world really works.
Enlist
Don't get a wageslave job at Walmart with no potential for growth, get into the military where there is
Get a job. Learn how to code.
>be useless because there's no consequences
No wonder 90% of India sucks and the 10% who realize you're a retard want to leave.
go for a 1/2 hour walk every day, rain or sun you have to do the walk.
get out of the house, give yourself and your parents a break.
build from that where you want to go with things
...
So what you propose is that I just go die in the wilderness?
Dude same here. It's depressing but I just think of it as "I'm living the 16 year old dream"
>>sleep cycle is beyond fucked
This is something that fucked me up pretty bad because I let it run way too long. Set an alarm OP. Even if there's nothing to do for you, get out of bed. 6pm - 8pm, doesn't matter. You might feel shit for a week cause you didn't feel tired before 2am and couldn't sleep, but after some days it will work. For me it was the first step of getting things done again.
>3/4 vs 3/4*3/4*3/4
>3/4 vs 27/64
>3/4 vs less than half
>Obviously the golden key. Let my waifu be free and go on to burning coal.
That's not how stacked probabilities work.
The gold key is a flat 75% chance, but of the 3 silver keys only 2 have to work.
Since there are only 3 keys, you can write out the probabilities (There are 2^3=8 combos):
Work = W = .75
Broke = B = .25
WWW=0.421875 (27/64 as you identified)
WWB=0.140625
WBW=0.140625
WBB=0.046875
BWW=0.140625
BWB=0.046875
BBW=0.046875
BBB=0.015625
To check our work add them together and make sure it equals 1:
0.421875+3*0.140625+3*0.046875+0.015625=1
Now to add the possibilities of only the WORKING combos:
0.421875+3*0.140625=0.84375
You can now see that you have chosen poorly, as 3 silver keys has a 84.375% chance versus the single golden key's 75% chance.
he is looking for emotional confirmation that he is doing nothing wrong. otherwise he would not post
go to /fit/ for self improvement.
Have some fucking standards. Get yourself a job, or a trade degree, or go to college. It's clear your parents are fed up with your NEET bullshit so try to apply yourself ANYWHERE. I think you'd be best off with learning a trade, if you have no money then try looking for a company that will pay for your training.
Also, smoke weed until you get off the alcohol withdrawals. I've been there, it ain't hard but it ain't easy either.
you're fucking worthless
go working
loose weight
move out of your parents home
>I SWEAR when I first read the image that "each" was not there.
same. that image is broken
do what you want but even though I hate my job, I feel better about myself when I'm working than when I'm no
Stop eating like shit. Go to bed at a reasonable time. Get a job.
Shit, you're right. Until I finished reading, I forgot the fact that just 2 are enough to open. Nice explanation also.
The gold key has a 75% chance to work. But if it fails, you're fucked.
The silver key is the same, but you can try again if you fail.
>smoke and drink a lot
how about suicide?
Fuck me this is basically my brother, and I can't get him to improve in anyway because all he does is play wow with his internet buddies...
You need to stop the smoking and drinking (how the fuck are you affording that shit anyway?) and start forging your body in to the temple it rightfully is. Take the money you save from Smokes & Booze and invest in some weights, exercise every other day.
Start making more and more effort to interact with people, eventually you'll get more used to it and will find it easier to talk to people. This will be a gradual process though so don't feel discouraged because you're not having hour long debates with people in your first day.
Fucked up sleep cycle and drinking will both contribute to your brain sucking with information. When I was at uni I was literally sleeping 6/7am-4/5pm and missing all my lectures. It took me weeks to get it back on track and involved taking caffeine to stay awake half an hour more every 2/3 days and within a month you should be able to push your sleep pattern back!
Once I fixed my sleeping and had a better diet to fuel my brain, the memory started coming back.
I'd wish you all the strength you'd need if you start improving things you won't need anyone else's input but your own.
Now go make Kek proud.
move in with me. I'm a gay neet.
>he is the beast he worships
Fish oil helps my sleep cycle. Take it in the morning. Exercise, too.
join the army you degenerate nigger
How does one become a janitor that "pays decent enough"? I'm a min wage jannie at a grocery store.
I am serious.
You are american so you have the OPPORTUNITY to JOIN the ARMED FORCES.
DO IT.
IT IS THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO.
Step 1. Get a job. Doesn't matter if it's a nigger-tier thing like packing groceries. Money will help you fix everything else.
your math implies all three silver keys need to work. you came to the right conclusion nonetheless
Fuckin a
teach me your ways senpai what books can you recommend?
>how the fuck are you affording that shit anyway?
>Take the money you save from Smokes & Booze
He screeches autistically if his parents wouldn't give him money for his addictions. He isn't motivated enough to screech that autistically when he knows it's for the weights, so he won't get the money. People who live with their parents are irresponsible, the first thing a 21 yo needs to do is get the fuck out of the parent's house. They are supposed just to help with a little money from then on, until he gets a decent job.
>also get some god damn goals
tell me more about those "goals"
what goals are available?
the job typically benefits you in that it gives you purchasing power and societal respect
it is too late
You should go and see a doctor first of all and have him take a serious amount of blood test to check there's nothing wrong with your health. I had the same symptoms as you and when I finally found a doctor who took my complaints seriously after many, many years it turned out I had blood cancer. Not saying you do, but if your sleep is fucked and you maybe have a depression or bipolar disorder or whatever then there are treatments for that.
The only choices left are hospitals, really. Most offices used to be decent gigs, but that's all handled by contractors and illegals now. There's still a little bit in the public sector and in higher education.
nah, this user is right you only need 2 out of the three to work
>>smoke and drink a lot.
found your problem i stopped at 24 and i am in the exact same situation
84.375% of getting it for silver keys.
3 different ways for 2 silver keys working, and 1 way for all 3 silver keys working.
0.75 x 0.75 x 0.25 x 3
ans + 0.75 x 0.75 x 0.75
0.84375
I'd ask you to do one thing. Very easy. Read the book The Stars My Destination. See what you take away from it, any parallels you might draw with your situation then, use it to inspire yourself to be more than you are. Exert your will to power, boy.
This.
Pick a job that has great potential for employment in the outside world. Think accounting or some shit, or a solid trade.
Don't quit like a faggot, keep telling yourself "I need this."
Don't get an apartment off-base. Live in the barracks, eat at the dfac, put checks in the bank.
Don't buy a new car with ridiculous interest rates. After you get a small sum in the bank, buy something dependable for 3-5 thousand with no payments.
DO NOT GET MARRIED TO A FUCKING DEPENDAPOTAMUS. Always provide your own birth control. Always. Do NOT get sucked into supporting some coal-burning stripper and her 3 half-breed niglets.
Do your time, gtfo, use that GI Bill to go to college and get some paper to go along with all the experience you have in aforementioned job whilst in military.
Get awesome job and start looking for a nice girl to settle down with and make some babies.
>quit doing drugs
>watch everything mike murdock ever produced
worked for me
get a job?
retard
this
neet genocide when?
Lifting doesnt help..believe me
well shit you need to asap get to know some craft because 25 is pretty old to be a neet
my bro was like you and he ended doin IT external studies and having an ugly but rich gf
Get a part time job in a relaxed, comfortable, and climate-controlled office setting. Earn about $150 bucks a week. Use that money to buy yourself...
>gym membership
>whey protein powder
>decent clothing
You can improve yourself but it's not going to happen all at once. You could also take a few courses at a local community college. There must be something you have an interest in. Just put yourself out there. The more you do, the more you do. Opportunities will develop organically and it will amaze you. You parents will likely WANT to pay for the community college. If you go to them with this idea and start showing some ambition and drive they'll be amazed.
Thanks for the explanation, pham
Yo, man. Listen up.
You're 25 and th coming years will pass faster and faster. You're creating a vicious cycle that won't end. You will be 40, fatter, dumber and still living with mommy and daddy. The time is now to shape up.
1-you need a job, any job. Walmart is always hiring. This will give you a purpose and will correct your sleeping pattern. You may even enjoy it and become a manager in short time.
2- you need to exercise. Any exercise. Push-up, sit ups and walking/running. This will give you energy and will also help your sleeping pattern. It will also give you confidence.
3- you need to quit smoking. Leave this for last as it will be the hardest. I'm hypocritical saying this bc I smoke too but have been making an effort to cut back/quit. Give it time.
Bottom line is, you need to put effort into your life. None of this will fall into your lap. If you think life sucks now, multiply that times 100 in th coming decade. Remember, your doing this for yourself. Not your parents, not society. You don't know what it's like to be happy. You never have. It's an incredible feeling. Please, give it a shot. Just try. I'm rooting for you.
Surely if the 3 silver keys each have a 75 percent chance you actually have a 225 percent chance of opening the door? Even though you can only use two its still guaranteed with a 150 percent chance.
I'd take silver as gold only gives me a 75 percent chance.