>Nazi Germany had an unemployment rate of zero
>Nazi Germany went for the worst economy in Europe to the best in 5 years
>Nazi Germany had the best infrastructure in the western world
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No one ever talks about this, WHY?
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>>Nazi Germany had an unemployment rate of zero>Nazi Germany went for the worst economy in Europe to the best in 5
years>Nazi Germany had the best infrastructure in the western world.
Well we need to stop that shit said the Jews.
>implying Germany didn't gear it's whole economy to war
>implying that all of that wasn't artificial and wouldn't have collapsed if krauts didn't rape Europe
So it was a great economy but it was all a ruse
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Pic slightly related I guess.
I stole it from r9k yesterday, figured you might like it
I dont know man, i started thinking of the volkswagen scam where the nazi government urged citizens to buy these tickets to get your own VW beetle, IIRC you needed like 5 tickets to get one and even if people had all the tickets they never got a car because all the money went straight into funding armament production.
fags claim that it collapsed because the economy went from infrastructure and public works to military
but that simply means if they never had to go to war, they would have prospered
I have NEVER heard anything negative about the volkswagen project.
Millions of people got cars for less than 1k marks
This thread's one saving grace
>Jewish banks
>honest
Fucking lying kikes.
For people to live well, other people have to live shitty. It's just a matter of whether or not this is being directed inward or outward. If it's being directed inward, that means you have a group of elite in a nation who are taking advantage of the rest of the population to accumulate power and quality of living. If it's pointed outward, that means you have a whole Nation (Nazi Germany in this instance) bullying other nations to accumulate power and quality of living.
I just thought of this, does it make sense even if it's worded a little poorly? Basically what I'm trying to say is that when a nation achieves strong unification, they would rather fuck over other people than their own to get ahead in life.
>implying Germany didn't gear it's whole economy to war
Wrong and they fucked up by not doing this even when the war was going terribly. Russia was advancing on Germany and they were still producing civilian vehicles for market.
>the jews dindu nuffin, honest!
If they didn't spend 12% of fucking GDP on rearmament they would have been fine.
The USSR would've declared war, Germany would ally with France and Britain and then gear up to tear the commies apart.
Yes but not because it has to be a zero-sum game, only because it's easier to steal from someone than to work together (example: Prisoner's dilemma).
If everyone just worked together and followed the rules then no one would have to live shitty at the expense of someone living well. But because that's naive, someone will always find a way to get more for themselves, is why you need a leader (like Trump) to direct this aggression outward to prevent the others (ex: Jews) from stealing things from your country.
I'm watching a Documentary now
20 million Beetles where produced in a couple years
Do you have a source on this scam?
*were
>unemployment rate of zero
Not hard with a war economy. Of course, that doesn't mean it's a healthy economy. Government becomes the greatest source of demand, so everyone starts producing war goods instead of goods consumers would otherwise demand because it's more profitable (assuming the government hasn't nationalized industries and forced them to produce shit for free). Rationing sets in. Patriotic fervor allows people to make do with less, but it can't last forever.
War does not stimulate economies in the long run. Read some Bastiat.
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They were taking back the stolen land, and helping the millions of Germans who were suddenly placed under foreign rule (i.e. Czechoslovakia, Poland, countries that shouldn't even exist) thanks to the plans of the allies.
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>So it can be shown that this was an enormous fraud perpetrated by the English and the Americans. Even Ludwig Erhard, Federal Economic Minister as of 1949, writes in his book Deutschlands Rückkehr zum Weltmarkt that there are no German receipts or confirmations of the alleged food aid.
>But in 1945 the Western Allies' boundless, criminal will to destroy had also immediately destroyed the German food supply organization (Reichsnährstand). In the end, this was the chief cause of the disastrous starvation years of 1946 and 1947, which cost the lives of countless Germans. One must assume that the death toll was at least as high as it had been in 1919, when the British starvation blockade, together with a devastating influenza epidemic, claimed the lives of 800,000 Germans. But who still speaks of this deliberate mass murder by the Allied "liberators" today?1
They urged german workers to buy saving stamps for the vw beetle (then called kdf-wagen), none were ever sold since the factory that made them was converted to kubelwagen production as the war broke out.
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>The "People's Car" would be available to citizens of Nazi Germany through a savings scheme, or Sparkarte (savings booklet) at 990 Reichsmark, about the price of a small motorcycle. (The average weekly income was then around 32RM).
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They should have spit on the Jew-loving Americans.
>It is most noteworthy that in the four years of the Marshall Plan, in West Germany, the cost of the occupation alone amounted to 24.00 billion DM, in other words some 4 times as much as the entire Marshall Plan "aid"! or: in each and every year we paid an average of 4 times as much to the Western occupation powers than we received in so-called aid!
>If one then also adds the occupation expenses paid to the Soviet occupiers, who depopulated and looted East Germany almost out of existence with the consent of the barbaric Western Allies, then from 1949 until 1952 fully 9 times as much in occupation costs was extorted from the German rump state as the entire Marshall Plan "credit" gave us in 4 years!
Not really a scam. They were producing cars for years and then war got in the way
yeah that 20M beetles is either the total production worldwide in its lifetime or that doc is full of shit
Beetle was only at prototype stage in 1935, they started to build the factory in 38..
>The factory had only produced a handful of cars by the start of the war in 1939; the first volume-produced versions of the car's chassis were military vehicles, the Type 82 Kübelwagen (approximately 52,000 built) and the amphibious Type 166 Schwimmwagen (about 14,000 built).
Scam or not, many germans were screwed of their money with that saving-scheme.
0 employment because men were drafted into the police force or military, women were paid to give birth, and children were in Hitlerjugend; all paid by the state.
That's all there is to it. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
>the only honest financial institutions in prewar Germany were Jewish banks
>Jewish banks
>Jewish banks
>Jewish banks
*sigh* every time Sup Forums........every goddamn time....
completely false hence why you found it on R9K
Their was a lot more to it
Department stores were banned so bakers, butchers, farmers weren't jewed into working for low wages.
Banning Jewry kept Shoe makers and seamstresses employed and place like nordstroms didn't take over.
Jobs were everywhere.
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The nazi economy is unsustainable if you have peace in mind.
Their military spending puts the US to shame.
So basically corporations were banned and small businesses were able to strive.
They saved a shitload of money by making soap out of Jews. Ironic since most Jews don't use soap
>Department stores were banned
Department stores hardly existed in the 30s and 40s, especially in Europe.
Does anybody have a PDF of this book?
The Economic Foundations of Fascism
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Yes
Come on man
Research the roaring 20's
this.
there isnt just one single aspect of jewry that strangles an economy. You are literally getting jewed in small amounts from a thousand different things. The economic miracly in germany happened because every single aspect of jewry was eliminated by a radically new government all at once and the country's economic output just exploded
>open this thread expecting to learn something about economics
>just basic Sup Forums jew hate and fake storytelling all the way down
cmon m8 someone teach me something or at least give me a rare flag
So if you ban Global companies like WalMart and Apple, small citizen owned main street businesses can make money.
Interesting concept!
Yeah but it didnt even last for more than 10 years. You can loan shitload of money and spend them on investitions in your country to improve economic conditions for few years, but what about coming years? Would you still be able to maintain this growt without bankrupting a country?
you stupid nigger did you not read the first post?
Watch this video for an introduction of fascist economics.
the first change is the the price of those goods will go up but the next result is a drastic increase in wages for local industry making those products.
I was trying to find the Feder's manifesto in English but i can't, only in Spanish, sorry m8
Economics chapter from "The Case for Germany" (1938)
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He should have been the fuhrer, Hitler should have been just a speaker.
Definitely, if you're invading and capturing other countries. Someone has to be poor for another to be rich with the way our global economic system is currently structured, but it doesn't have to be someone residing in the same country.
It wasn't really fascist though
It was free market, private property capitalism but jewry was banned
It was some dude who blamed jews for all of the worlds problems so if something hurt the country it was labeled jewry and banned
war is the worst possible thing for the economy, so they did good despite that
I am already in that position - sole charge business in manufacturing trying to stay ahead of imported Chinese shit. Like it was 30 years ago before consumerism took over,
(((People))) try to say it was all because of war production.
stfu subhuman war is bad for the economy
Yeah because it had nothing to do with war production.
No shit their economy did well. They were building a massive war machine. By the late 30's they pretty much HAD to invade Poland just so they could loot the shit out of them and continue to survive. It was completely unsustainable.
yeeeeeeaaah sure buddy,
>they were building a massive war machine
How would they have a good economy if they were building a war machine?
the war started in 1939, nazis fixed germany in 6 years of peace.
>Research the roaring 20's
Department stores were not common outside of major urban centers, and even then they were not common enough to compete so strongly with boutique stores like bakers and butchers. Banning them would have had fuck all positive effect on the economy.
what would have collapsed, exactly? They were meeting all needs and they not extracting resources unsustainably. Obviously the growth rate would have halted but what would have made them unable to meet basic needs?
where are the proofs
All the proofs I see is Nazi's building infrastructure like the autobahn
>loot the shit out of Poland
>Poland having loot
kek. You know jack shit. They were taking back land that belonged rightfully to Germany. Churchill made promises to Poland that they would back them up. Poland decided to act tough and provoke Germany.
Some people blame the great depression on department stores.
They crashed the economy in major cities and it spread like wildfire
Did anyone talk about the unfair demand of war debt they were to pay back with the treaty of versailles (written up by a jew) after ww1? The attempt to overthrow the gov by communist jews after ww1? The selection of hitler by banking jews to push his ideology of hated towards those that tried to stamp out germany? How he got major loans from these bankers that were the same type of people that put the country into debt to begin with? How robber barons from the US and EU swooped in to pay them heavily in return to rights of their coal fields, and ironwerks? How magically over a couple years from being on the brink of collapse, they magically gained huge amounts of weapons, power, and land because "nazi magic", instead of the fact that globalist elites were using them entierly as a proxy army against the russians for the events of communism killing the tsar and his family overnight.
Yeah nah, hitler was a genius and national socialist expert totally, it was impossible to think they were a hollowed out war tool for the rich men of the world.
No, because in this case all of the consumption was going towards stockpiling for a war effort. In the case of Germany, building up to war was the lifesaver for the economy.
You could model Germany circa 1936 in the same manner as Japan circa 1986 or Brazil in 1976, or China in 2016: Heavily investment-led, with tight capital controls and policies designed to redirect bank deposits into industrial ventures, with an emphasis on manufacturing for the export market (in Germany's case, manufacturing for the war effort.)
The downside to investment-led growth is that households pay for the cost of the investment, which reduces available household income in multiple ways depending on specific investments undertaken. Because investment is essentially deferred consumption, for this model to work there needs to be a period of overconsumption to balance out the period of underconsumption that was undertaken. The only way this overconsumption phase can be delayed is through a globalized trade regime wherein countries with excess consumption export said consumption through the importation of goods from the investment-led economy.
>drastic increase in wages for local industry making those products
And a decrease in consumer spending as all the customers of that business now have less money to spend on other shit.
Protectionism is economically harmful. There is no escaping this fundamental fact. It does have non-economic benefits (higher employment rate resulting in less crime, more national self-sufficiency, etc.) but these must come at the expense of economic growth.
It was Polish land before it was German, so how did it rightfully belong to Germany?
And those people are retarded. It is the federal policy of easy money in the preceding decades that caused the Depression, and the policies of the FDR government that prolonged it far past its natural recovery point.
Blaming it on department stores doesn't even make sense.
>No, because in this case all of the consumption was going towards stockpiling for a war effort. In the case of Germany, building up to war was the lifesaver for the economy.
yes war is always horrible for the economy except for this one time...Am I right
Trade intervention is a necessary outcome of a global supply glut, as countries cannot borrow indefinitely and by the time it becomes apparent that the market will not tolerate Country Y at Debt Level Z, it's too late to back off from the trend.
Trade intervention is also a logically necessary component of forcing the political change necessary to obviate the path-dependent variables inherent in the political economy of the overproducing economies.
You can't really be arguing that WalMart was good for the economy
Yes you can get cheap plastic toys for cheap but it cleared out the malls and minimalls
yes because more expensive goods with decent paying job is better than cheaper goods with shitty low wage job or no job
fucking leaf-kikes.....
yes federal funding is more important than entire industries dying because they are consolidated into one location
sure
Since World War II actually broke out - and indeed, once Hitler had pushed Germany onto an economic model predicated on going to war, there was no turning back - we never saw what would've happened to the German economy. That said, because the German model fits Brazil and Japan so closely in other respects, we can look at what happened to those economies.
The short answer is that debt-servicing capacity was outpaced by debt growth and Brazil suffered a severe economic crash followed by a decade of really shitty growth, and Japan suffered a very long economic decline and is in decade two of really shitty growth.
>Brazil and Japan
No
Neither of these countries have ever banned usury. Have never banned people making money off of other peoples labour.
Japan lives of making money off of others
And neither have ever banned Jewry.
Its capitalism without corporatism...THE THIRD WAY
>Have never banned people making money off of other peoples labour.
Third Way isn't communism, retard. And regardless of what Hitler preached, what he actually set up was an economic time bomb waiting to go off.
Indeed. More expensive goods, but they last. The cheaper quality goods are an illusion as far as cost savings.
War is always good for the economy. World War II brought the whole world out of The Great Depression.
You think WW2 was good for Europe?
It was good for America because we were the only power left after the war was over but it was hell on earth for Europe
Economically, yes. There is money to be made during war.
and who made the money? Not the citizens who fought and died and lost property.
>Have never banned people making money off of other peoples labour.
This is not a communist idea. Its capitalist reformation.
Communism is literally "people retain 100% of the value they create", you cretin.
>Trade intervention is also a logically necessary component of forcing the political change necessary to obviate the path-dependent variables inherent in the political economy of the overproducing economies.
Which path-dependent variables?
Yes, I can. In exactly the same way that machine-powered looms allowed people to have cheap textiles for cheap while clearing out individual weaving and spinning cottage businesses. It's called competition, whereby the more efficient and productive businesses succeed. If consumers gave a shit about buying expensive plastic toys for lots of money, those businesses would still have a client base and would still exist. But it's not Wal Mart's fault that their competition was not as good as them at reading consumer demand.
Broken window fallacy. You do not get something for nothing. If everyone has to spend more money on the same shit, that's so much less money being spent on other shit. Sure, those in the protected business make more, but everyone in other business now makes less.
>federal funding
What.
>who made the money
War profiteers and capitalist who owned factories that manufactured weapons and armory, and sold them overseas for money.
In the case of China, the manufacturing and banking factions which demand that cheap capital be made available to manufacturing firms regardless of the viability of the project.
>but they last
Many consumers do not want to pay for longer lasting shit. You can buy top-tier shit from 1st world nations and even China, but sales pale in comparison to cheap bottom-end shit because many consumers prefer a cheap replaceable piece of shit to one of high quality and craftsmanship. That is not a problem involving protectionism or trade policy, but rather culture.
>>federal funding
>What.
I'm a little drunk to argue with you
but what i'm saying is that federal funding is secondary to entire industries dying off because of consolidation
>machine-powered looms allowed people to have cheap textiles for cheap
It's different...Its not innovation it's consolidating every mini mall business under on roof because you have the money to buy a big building. Its nothing but a mini mall where you pay the individual store owners minimum wage
That's a self-solving problem in the long run.
>inb4 we're all dead
You are leaving out the part that our wages don't allow many of us to purchase 1st world goods.
Thanks to Trump, it's about to be a solved problem in the short-run :^)
>Its nothing but a mini mall where you pay the individual store owners minimum wage
Not at all. The reason Wal Mart became so big was it's logistics system. It was the fact that they could source the cheapest and most varied shit far better than everyone else. Putting different products under one roof is the same thing every store does, they just went further to make it more convenient for consumers.
That is due to inflation. The value of the dollar is a lot less than how it was 100+ years ago and one of the reasons for inflation is because the world uses the USD as the standard currency for global trading since 1944
The main reason is because the Federal Reserve was established and they started (and continue to) print money like it had unlimited value.
>The reason Wal Mart became so big was it's logistics system
Seems like bullshit. I would say WalMart became so big because of convenience and mainly outsourcing
They sold the same products but a little cheaper because the billionaire owners could open manufacturing plants in china...And it was all under one roof
Further more
Now that they control the market they control self space. So what products are they going to put on the selves....The products the investors in WalMart invest in.
Thank the federal government's monetary policy for that.
Read about Wal Marts history. Sam Walton started as one of those small store owners, and developed from there. Hell, when he first started Wal Mart he was trying to source exclusively domestic products. Logistics were where he beat everyone else, though.
>Read about Wal Marts history. Sam Walton started as one of those small store owners
Until Warren buffet invested billions of dollaroos
Then it went from a small success story with amazing logistics to a front operation