I'm so tired of reading about how college educated people voted for Hillary (and things like Remain) over Trump or other right-wing policies. Liberals love saying that Trump voters are uneducated idiots.
Why is there such an obsession with being college educated? Just because someone has a degree in sociology that really doesn't impress me, and yet the media acts as if Hillary was the "right" choice because more educated people made that choice. Educated in WHAT, exactly? Liberal arts?
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Out of all the people I grew up with the most successful ones have been the guys who learned a trade. A couple of the people I know who went to university were really dedicated to their major and ended up in academia, but the vast majority of my university-educated friends are driftless and underemployed.
And indebted. Let's not forget that one.
Leftists like to feel smugly superior, and condescend rather than defending their values as principles. They think degrees in gender studies, cultural studies, etc makes them intelligent, and use this as a basis for their self esteem.
>I'm so tired of reading about how college educated people voted for Hillary (and things like Remain) over Trump or other right-wing policies
That's the news reporting, so you know who voted what and maybe even why
>Liberals love saying that Trump voters are uneducated idiots.
I don't love it. In fact, I hate it. But it becomes abundantly clear that a lot of people that voted Trump didn't even know all the shit he was saying and proposing.
Sad but true. I have two friends who are civil engineers. Only one of them got a job, then started his own business and then that business went to hell. I fucking hate Trump, but being a psychopath with no morals and lots of practice in the real business-field takes you farther than education. I doubt he is qualified to lead a nation though, heck, I'm sure he knows he is not qualified to lead a nation, but he is gonna run his scam as long as he can.
>mfw got a bach in biology but became a plumber
A key problem with the call for "reaching out" to working class whites with a populist economic message is that it assumes they were motivated by economic bread-and-butter concerns in the first place when they voted Trump. But were they? His base in the primaries had median household income of $73k. Even though he obviously peeled off some formerly working class white Democrats in the Rust Belt with lower incomes than that (or in Appalachia), the fact is, the jobs that have fled those places have been fleeing since 1973 and left most "bigly" in the 1980s...but these voters didn't turn right wing (at least at the ballot box) at that time... And of course for many of them, it was only with the ACA (Obamacare) that they and their families could afford health insurance, and yet they voted for the guy who vowed to dismantle it.
So what changed? Not their economy. It's where it's been for many of them for two decades or more.
What changed was the culture: whereas they used to be able to take themselves for granted as the floor model of an "Amurkan" (white, Christian, straight), now they are having to share the designation with others, and they experience this as a loss or even "dispossession." In short, they are not economically anxious so much as culturally and ethno-racially anxious at the loss of hegemony (however symbolic, since real hegemony was always exercised by the wealthy). Told that they WERE the "real America," once America became darker, and more culturally urbane, and wired and religiously pluralistic -- in a word, less provincial -- those whose entire existence is provincial and revolves around a mythologized and nostalgic longing for "simpler times" could not cope. T
This helped trump win. The left alienated a lot of working class people with their smug elitism. They yell about lgbt minorities muh immigration etc. and ignore and demean a large mass of people who might have supported them otherwise . Self-destructive af
this is the irony of white normativity and white identity: it set white folks up to believe in the taken-for-grantedness of our daily existence on top of the pile called "normal." The privilege of being considered the prototype of a real American made millions of us ill-prepared for change. But change is a constant in human history...only those who never really studied history, because they were led to believe they didn't need to (all they needed was a strong back and an ability to lift things), have had the luxury of not knowing it, and not knowing what to do when confronted by it.
In a sense people of color were always better prepared for this moment...again, an irony. People of color have never had the luxury of taking ANYTHING for granted: not their normalcy, not the idea that jobs would be there for them, not the idea that if they played by the rules everything would work out...not their very existence or the assumption that others even recognized their right to it. Only whites, and especially white men, and especially white male Christians, and especially those who are straight, have had this luxury. And now it has proved to be like a shiny diamond, beautiful to behold, but which emits a toxic gas, invisible at first, and imperceptible until it is almost too late.
White America needed desperately to know what black and brown America knows and has always known: that the whole damned system is a hustle.
this
You mean indoctrinated not educated.
Unless you follow the party line in any non hard science degree such as English or liberal arts the jew/left controllers will fail you
I've got an English professor who thinks the ship we have to read is some deep important crappie when it's really just her retelling the fact that she fucked her boss to get her job.
Read "The Closing of the American Mind" professors are on the whole very naive and misguided and most of their students are just flat out stupid.
Look at this jew.
Dismantle the liberal argument with a few easy questions.
1.) What is the criteria that needs to be met in order to be considered educated?
2.) What education requirements are required to cast a genuine and critically thought out vote?
3.) Are these requirements exclusive to only people with college degrees and higher?
>be told entire life to go to college, it's the only way to get a good career and you'll earn way more over the long run
>get out, have no employable skills, no real world experience, be poison to all employers
>no work for 8 years, unless you count that 3 week period two years ago before I got fired
Meanwhile the guy who worked as a grocery store bagger in high school who did not go to college is now regional manager of a major grocery store chain.
I love how defensive you Trumpkins are. If it's not a valid issue why do you care that smart, worldly, informed people voted for Hillary while you simple, easily led lemmings backed Trump like old grannies sending in their life savings to some huckster televangelist.
White college degree holders voted for Trump. What colored people of any sort voted for is irrelevant.
One thing many people fail to realize is that older people tend to vote Republican and they're less likely to have a college degree
>1.) What is the criteria that needs to be met in order to be considered educated?
not voting republican if you make less than 250k a year
>2.) What education requirements are required to cast a genuine and critically thought out vote?
BS or higher from a reputable institution. No university of Phoenix plz.
>3.) Are these requirements exclusive to only people with college degrees and higher?
redundent
Since when is Trump right wing? Seems pretty centrist to me.
you can learn far more on the net
college is jsut government attempt to make everyone pro big government
lower gov spending and everyone happier and armed
crime goen
White college educated voters and the weathiest voters voted for Trump.
Literally the smartest people voted for Trump.
Also OP - Women.
It's what's making many of them mad.
>I did well in school! Where's my reward!
>Get a job
>This pay sucks!
>You studied a useless degree
>I got straight A's in Feeling Guilt About Privilege 101 and you're telling me a starting salary as head blogger for my personal tumblr is nil? Fuck the wage gap!
median income of trump voters was 73k roo
>Leftists like to feel smugly superior
Dear God, this.
The best example I've seen of this of late, and there have been some great examples, was the HuffPo article calling for breaking up the Union. The woman writing the article, an editor for HuffPo, actually said that she didn't care if it made her a member of the liberal elite, she just didn't care about jobs leaving the Rust Belt and, by extension, how people voted in the 2016 election.
It was so fucking stark, so naked, that I had to reread it a few times. That whole article, in point of fact, is surreal.
>tfw have a Master's degree
>tfw just want to throw all my education away and become an electrician
Take some advice from me: don't go to college. Learn a trade. If you're in college, cut your losses and learn a trade.
This. I've wished in the past I had become an electrician too. Feels like it's too late now though.
It's not too late. I have a political science degree (kek) and I'm an electrician.
I'm only two years into my degree but I agree. College sucks.
Most people who fail in businesses are stupid and lazy.
They equate academic achievement with real world ability and it lets them down.
They also push people to higher levels of education than necessary and funnel them into areas that don't suit them.
>college is jsut government attempt to make everyone pro big government
>you posted this unironically
>on top of that you consider yourself smarter than the average person
>literally murricareadingisforfaggots.jpg
>Liberals love saying that Trump voters are uneducated idiots
boy you sure prove them wrong
I fucking hate low IQ working class plebs who think they should be allowed to vote except if they're non-white of course then we should bring more into the country
Why should anyone care about jobs leaving the rust belt? These are privileged white people who can easily move on to better opportunities. Our society is becoming more urbane and we owe these provincial people no sympathy. The rust belt has been dying since 73 ffs why didnt any of these salt of the earth people see the writing in the wall and find a new life?
In others new: people that attend places which generally cater to PC culture and liberal values, tend to come out with same values.
Trump won every economic bracket except the two lowest famalam.
That's what happens when you don't major in stem
Compare income levels in voting, and ask the womyns studies majors to extrapolate the value of """education""" from that.
But I did tho
Another important factor to remember is that a higher proportion of the population goes to college as the future marches on. More people go to college now than 10 years ago, for example. And it's also naturally the case that younger people tend to be more liberal. And people without jobs tend to be more liberal (such as all the people currently in college)
So even the narrative of "college educated people vote liberal" is mostly bullshit because there's merely the confounding variable of age. If I were to take two sets of 40 year olds - college vs non-college educated - the supposed gap would probably disappear completely. Especially when you consider that higher income was correlated with being conservative.
And this is besides the fact that "college educated whites" ended up voting for Trump more on average ANYWAY
And then there's the issue that nobody ever bothers talking about "non college educated blacks" who vote 95% democrat. But nobody is shitting on them.
Because Mexicans took all the urbane jobs.
That's why blacks live in urbane poverty, right?
>Educated in WHAT, exactly? Liberal arts?
Ding ding ding! They successfully graduated the indoctrination camp and proved their ability to parrot terribly constructed arguments.
It's the appeal to authority fallacy.
Normies eat that shit up
Every time I turned on the television in the last 3 weeks the news has spoken the words "uneducated white voters" and how many of them voted for Trump
I have never once heard them mention the "uneducated black voters" block or how they chose to vote. Yet, blacks are far more likely to be uneducated. Strange.
If they're so smart and well informed why are they poor and why did they lose?
In the current year, "college educated" actually means "indoctrinated".
Because you can't grow food in a city. And if you do, enjoy your cauliflower, nigger.
What major?
Van Jones mentioned it hard in his meltdown.
>FUCK YO WEALTH INEQUALITY NIGGA DIS WAS A WHITE LASH
Explain your answers to 1 and 2. 3 is not redundant. It asks if the requirements to cast a genuine vote are only exclusive to citizens with college degrees.
>he fell for the stem meme
let's not forget that a shit load of educated americans are now unemployed bums
unregulated factories wouuld make stupids and phd in basket weaving more productive
lowr lawyer n judge pay to 10/hour
So it's time to force a reversal of the roles, no matter the merit of said "minorities"? Ignore all whites, because fuck whites? Overwhelm whites with sheer numbers?
Yeah, fuck that. Keep your blue pills to yourself.
farms and industrial manufacturing jobs have nothing to fucking do with each other you mouth breathing faggot. You wanna talk about giant agribusiness forcing out family farmers start another thread because its apples and pears.
Mexicans took the urbane office jobs in wealthy cities? You must be stupid. Blacks dont do well in cities for the same reason rust belt white privileged rednecks dont do well in them. No/bad education.
Fuck off, Sven.
For supposed "smart" and "educated" people, you'd think they'd know all about the appeal to authority logical fallacy.
I guess they don't teach that anymore.
>he fell for the welding meme
Enjoy being replaced once welding robots become the norm.
Keep in mind too: all this talk about how critical it is to reach out to working class and rural whites is only a thing right now because HRC failed miserably to inspire voters in and around Milwaukee, Detroit and Philadelphia to anywhere near the extent Obama had. If she had done so -- and that is her fault and the DNCs, not those voters' faults -- we wouldn't even be having this conversation about the "salt of the Earth hardscrabble white working class" and how they need to be "wooed." We'd be talking about how those same whites would have to make a decision...the burden would be on THEM: either join the struggle for multiracial democracy and let us build a new world together, or stay stuck in their provincial fantasies of a bygone era, and die, along with their towns. That is not to say that we shouldn't take their concerns seriously. We should, of course. But not at the expense of prioritizing them above and beyond the folks who have always stood for justice.
I'm terrible at mathematics above an algebraic level but I liked fucking with electronics since I was a kid.
Do I have a chance?
You know those "good girls" at school who get top grades? Yeah, that's your average uni/college student: most of them don't give a fuck about what they study and simply went there to get approval from society. Only a handful of people truly care about the subjects they study.
Isn't this just a huge amount of double-think, though? I've had tons of liberals tell me that education doesn't mean anything either.
Perhaps they just need to get their shit together.
education is just a code word for indoctrination and I think it's contributing to the declining of white birth rates.
the elites always talk about educating and empowering women in third world countries. it's blatant social engineering.
Let me tell you, voting Democrat is probably even dumber than voting Republican at this point. The money isn't going to be taken from the lower class, and there's going to be plenty of loop holes for the upper class. Guess who takes up the slack? The middle class of course. The goal of all this is to kill the middle class, with the lower class as slaves to the upper class. They already re enslaved blacks. Now they're trying to do it to everyone else.
>Meanwhile the guy who worked as a grocery store bagger in high school who did not go to college is now regional manager of a major grocery store chain.
You gotta realize these jobs are awful. Almost always unionized shitholes that can't fire anyone. Stupid managers, stupid employees, stupid customers. I tried stocking for three months and between my retarded shift manager starting shit because I worked a little faster than he did and some illiterate niggress blaming me for something she did I realized that shit isn't worth it.
>mfw I have a law degree
a-am I the Jew?
Biology. Useless unless I want to get some kind of master's for hospital work it seems.
are you in the lawyer club?
Its not doublethink because its not two simultaneously held contradictory beliefs. Its a generalization, and like all generalizations, there are exceptions, but I hold it because its, from what I've seen, statistically speaking true.
Actually one of the major upsets this election was college-educated males, which unexpectedly turned out for Trump 55-45
Undergraduate degree in any US college only requires money. Literally everyone graduates, you have to be retarded, or have some major life issues to drop out.
Graduate degrees are decent in some universities, but "college educated" is a meme.
You are advocating that supporting tax cuts for the people at the top helps middle calss and poor voter more so than supporting min wage increases and universal health care? I think youre confused
It's part of Liberal hypocrisy.
All of their theories and ideologies are meant to help the poor and the middle class. Then, when the poor votes for what they need, they get upset.
Why? Because the poor were able to think for themselves and not use the Left, or have their aid in the process.
Also, many Liberals are incredibly arrogant. It goes against their saviour complexes.
They secretly hate the poor and think they are the better ones.
University education is bougoise as fuck. Costs the most money, takes the most time, most degrees are for higher learning and not jobs.
This is why I left Liberalism.
(((education)))
t. Sven Ahmedsson
I swear half the people I talk to online from France have law degrees. What the actual fuck is going on over there?
I think the histrionics are because a bachelor of arts is now becoming a financial liability. You spend more time and money getting it than it is worth. So they try to pretend as if it has some other value of 'class' beyond money.
They are just butthurt that Trump won the middle and upper class of earners, and they won the poor.
tl;dr make money, forget socialist professors
There isn't anything of value in higher education anymore. It's not a place where you learn critical thinking it is a place to memorize leftist rhetoric and propaganda.
My brother moved away this past weekend so my younger brother and I took him out for drinks and a last night on the town. My younger brother brought his new girlfriend and some of his college buddies.
I found myself debating a whole group of people. Now, I'm not r9k tier so it was a friendly and raucous debate and discussion, but I was genuinely shocked at how little these kids knew about these concepts they were bringing up. Everything they brought up was merely parroted nonsense. Most didn't even know what the words they were using meant... One guy was saying he believes in some kind of higher power, but kept insisting he was agnostic; I kept explaining to him that he's not agnostic then, by taking a position he is assuming knowledge regarding God's existence. He just didn't get it. I think he was more enraptured with the idea of being "agnostic" than actually understanding what that implied.
That is correct. Whenever liberals talk about "the rich" they're really talking about the middle class, because the middle class are the ones who always end up taking the brunt. Rich people find ways around everything anyway.
Universal healthcare is code for "we're going to take your money to pay for niggers"
Minimum wage increases actually just make people more unemployable, kills jobs, raises cost of goods and services, devalues the dollar, and causes more outsourcing and use of illegal alien labor.
Haha. Whites win again!
Yeah. Droit penal.
Lot of nigs nogs and northeners to defend here I guess.
>universal healthcare
worse for the poor person with diastase or the rich person whos taxes have been slightly raised to pay for the poor persons insulin?
>minwage increase
worse for the poor people cashing the checks or the giant corporations writing the?
You actually believe this? Have you been brain washed?
Exactly this. Obviously they're not taking money from the rich if the rich keep getting richer. They're taking money from the middle class and giving it to niggers.
The thing is, Democrats have had control of the House and Senate for a much greater amount of time, as an aggregate, then republicans have over the past 70 years or so. So who is really stealing from the middle class when one party has had dominance over the legislature for that long?
Minimum wage abolishment when?
Trump won with the whites, while Hillary had hispanincs and niggers voting for her. Saying Hillary supporters are smarter is almost like saying niggers and hispanics are smarter than whites. The left keeps blaming white men when the US and their greatness was literally build by white men. Just think about it. You can clean your ass with your gender/arts/history/phisolophy degree
fucking jew
on top of that, whenever someone comes out with an IQ number, ignore that fucking retard, you cant measure intelligence
They somehow think they being educated in Chemical Engineering makes them know how politics work and what is good for a country.
>slightly raised to pay for the poor persons insulin?
Fatties shouldn't have their healthcare subsidized.
> liberal arts students are educated
The majority of college educated white people voted Trump.
That's all you need to say to them.
They have no argument other than "W-well that means whites are racist!"
Then you just smile and sip your tea.
'college educated' means either you are a minority who got a free ride or from a rich family and have little experience with unsheltered real life.
Who is this butterface?
most of those women with their (((education))) will be working at starbucks; best case is office drone
How can you not realize that higher minimum wages will ultimately cause less people to be hired? Just look at the obamacare employer mandate which forces employers to provide healthcare coverage to full time employees. Companies are switching to a part time labor force now because many can't afford to cover their employees, especially with high minimum wages.
Educated != Being politically informed
I say this as an educated person that works with a lot of other educated people. Most of the highly educated, at least on the non-arts side, don't devout a lot of their time to politics and just go with whatever the media tells them to like. They're preoccupied with other things and politics is not high on their list. Also a lot of highly educated professions are not in danger of being replaced by the 3rd word so they don't fear globalism.
This whole thing is a psy-op and from what I've seen it's actually pretty effective in demoralizing insecure people. Fact is the media creates the whole "educated like X more than Y" and real educated people are like "I'm educated so I better like X".
>butterface
Are you a chink? She's cute and high test.
We need to keep ridiculing Hillary until everyone universally recognizes that voting for her was retarded. Everyday there should be a "Pokemon Go to the polls!" and "Trumped up Trickle down!" thread for normies to see. They should be made ashamed of being stupid enough for voting for this corrupt autistic piece of shit.
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>Liberals love saying that Trump voters are uneducated idiots.
as do Trump voters
as does Trump
>long philtrum
>bulging eyes
>huge upturned nose
that bitch is objectively fucking ugly