Trump will never pardon Snowden

>Trump will never pardon Snowden
Fucking why?

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because like every other president his life will be in danger if he opposes the Deep State

He handed over the leaks, also Russian spy

>Russian spy
Oh, please.

snowden is a traitor. traitors must be executed. it's the law.

This, literally not a single reason he should be pardoned

Trump will execute the traitor once Vlad the Benevolent returns him.

He's a libtard

He should have shut the fuck up to receive the pardon, instead he insulted Trump.

the leaks showed the world how fucked up obama was. spying on dilma changing her cloths.

Because he isn't worth the political cost

We just made NSA style practices legal here in the UK under the Snooper's Charter. What Snowden exposed was unconstitutional and it's the NSA/CIA who are are traitors. Don't be a bootlicker or you will end up like us over here in Britain with no way to fight it.

He broke our trust and endangered the US but revealing some of our most useful intelligence programs. He should be sentenced accordingly.

>useful

Useful does not mean good.

Because pic related.

He needs a man in Russia. A triple agent.

He uncovered the (Obama) establishment fucking with its own citizens. And if he's a (((Russian spy))) so is Trump

How dare Trump run under the campaign of "Drain the Swamp" and not even consider pardoning Snowden who was ahead of Trumps game for years. The intelligence agencies are the biggest and slimiest shit swamp of them all.

Because he is a lying political traitor trying to sell himself as a hero to Leftists/Anti Americans under false pretenses.

What he did is punishable by death, and should be.
Not only will Trump not pardon him, he is likely to make a deal with Putin to extradite him and execute him...lel

Becauase he sold seceretes to China and Russia in exchange for asylum, seceretes that are severely compromised national security
He would have gone down as one of the greatest patriots of this century if not for that

An anti-Clinton principled liberal. Fuck you

>holy shit intelligence agencies actually do what intelligence agencies are supposed to do, whoah, never would have figured it out, thanks based traitor Snowden!

I bet you also think no other country does that shit too

Yeah we should all strife to be dictatorial shitholes like you

He leaked like 140 pages of sensitive defense intelligence.
130 pages were of no interest to American citizens but were very interesting to political enemies.

He ended up costing the USA a lot of money/time/effort having to scramble to adjust its systems and protocols.

10 pages or less were actually about "spying"
Yet he uses those 10 pages as his claim to matyrdom, when he actually sold this country out due to massive butthurt.

>I bet you also think no other country does that shit too
I literally said in this thread that my country just made it legal this year despite them already doing it illegally for years. You want intelligence agencies looking through your cameras and emails? Fuck you, Latvia. Nobody respects your shitty country in the first place.

>still believing Snowden was a hero or a traitor and not just a fucking idiot
>implying he blew the whistle on something the NSA couldn't do

You guys realise there is no legal expectation of privacy on cell phones, yea? Cos the phone companies sure as hell know it, hence why it's in the contract.

>You guys realise there is no legal expectation of privacy on cell phones, yea?
There is in Germany.

Trump would have never won without him and Assange exposing the leftist establishment for the wanna be dictators they are and you know it. And he never leaked anything unvetted to the public either, just had the Guardian publish the most important info (because no US msm would)

So what you're telling me is he didn't betray a country that mattered.

America does matter, and some people want to make it better.

He didn't do shit this election
That was assange and wikileaks solely. Don't associate everything wikileaks does with snowden

He shilled massively against Clinton to his 99% leftist supporters. Brought up all the old material too, to show that the Dems are from being the good guys

>Sup Forumstard
>deeply ingrained daddy issues
>dumb as a brick
>finally found a nice tree club filled with likeminded dipshits
>telling him not to be a bootlicker

Most morons here think in strict black and white terms and think that's OK because the way they figure it, someone else on Sup Forums has pulled some kind of a pseudo-philosophical excuse out of their ass. So it's ok, you see.

Don't be so mad you cucks, no one is talking about dictatorships and what not, I struggle to understand that spergs like you are so surprised when some Snowden chump says the intelligence agencies conduct spying and counter-intelligence operations on citizens and others, be it USA or elsewhere

By the way, seeing as you will probably elect that libtard socialist president, along with the chancellor that's no better, your intelligence agencies will surely experience even more fun and action to deal with liberal policies

>seeing as you will probably elect that libtard socialist president
I do not support Bernie at all. How about you form a coherent point instead of taking way too long to reply only to expose how much of a bootlicker you are?
What a waste of time, status-quo piece of trash you are. Continue being irrelevant, please.

I don't know from which ass you pulled out Bernie, I guess you worship low-energy commes like him

But damn, you sure showed me, refuted all I said with those absolutely painful and rather strong statements and mean words, whoah, how will I ever recover

>I guess you worship low-energy commes like him
I supported Trump this election.
Since when did being anti-government corruption make you a commie? I don't think you understand the sheer magnitude of your ignorance or just plain stupidity but your fetishization of the state owning your tight little asshole is disturbing to say the least.

Because Trump is a cunt.

I guess you're talking to yourself right now if you can't comprehend that I referred to bernie being a stinking communist

And if you think Trump is really anti-government, it's no point talking to plebians like you in the first place

For such a smart guy, Edward Snowden is kind of dumb.

Then stop talking to me and go back to being okay with the government knowing about your dwarf porn collection.

good since hes a sorrows shill.

Funny how Sup Forums-tards are against "big government" but don't mind them spying at everything their citizens do.

Because Snowden handed over the secrets of metadata collection and transformation into actionable intelligence to our primary geopolitical foe.

Snowden is the Julius Rosenberg of the information age. If America lets him off the hook for his treason, there will be no America left to make great again.

Know this Sup Forums

1. Snowden is smarter than you at pursasion
2. He doesn't work alone
3. He actually betrayed the US government
4. He's a spy working against your government

None of those facts are in dispute

Digest that

Useful to who? Why is Sup Forums full of bootlickers? The NSA has done absofucklutely nothing for you. They just amass power day by day, gaining complete leverage over anyone who posts online, especially to vietnamese image boards.

Because...
- It would undermine the supposed "rule of law"
- Trump ran on keeping Americans safe, this implies more surveillance
- Domestic spying was never mentioned in the campaign

Also the US media will never support it:
- they shilled for the establishment when Snowden leaked
- Pushing for a pardon will be an implicit repudiation of Obama's surveillance legacy
- Trump pardons him, the media goes into full derp mode: muh rule of law, whatabout Isis?, NSA now hates Trump, Trump hates America now, Trump loves Russia, etc.

There is no way Trump can do it without getting fucked from every angle. A million butthurt Hilldawg shills will hop all over it pretending it will ruin America.

Everything around Snowden is suspicious as shit, no way he deserves an unconditional pardon

he protected his people from the gubmint. stop being a bootlicker, laws are not absolute.

he needed to do it to stay alive. he needed attention and allies.

He's not your friend.

Is whistleblowing an unconstitutional acts of a government unconstitutional?

Hell, I don't even know if NSA's actional can be described as unconstitutional

Because the "Snowden" character has more usefulness if he's believed to be an enemy of the US, not a puppet.

Snowden is a CIA-allied operative, to attack and weaken the CIA's enemy: the NSA. (Trump is allied with the NSA faction.)

Damn, Sup Forums really seems under a massive forum-sliding attack today.

It would go towards draining the swamp.

What the NSA does us completely unconstitutional. You are either for the constitution or against it. Which one is it?

Also, do you think it is ok that someone is watching you through your webcam on your computer right now?

Trump insulted him first, years ago. Trump is also an idiot who deserves to be made fun of

On one hand he is literally a traitor

On another hand what he did was ultimately good for the people of the US

Whole thing is just awful no matter what.

because drumpf is a fucking mut

The NSA were traitors for making it so impossible to expose their unconstitutional actions.
Snowden risked everything he had and now has to live in shitty Russia because the US Gov't voided his passport.

>Fucking why?
Because he is a traitor who deserves nothing but a bullet between his eyes paid by his family.

found the fascist cuck

t. Geneva NSA Spy Hub

Found the commie cuck.

I'd give Snowden my life. I'd kill anyone who calls him a traitor.

He didn't have to do anything this election. He got people in the anti-establishment mindset.

Because he's a fucking traitor

He shouldn't be pardoned. He is an anti-gunner.

High treason and nooses are where he belongs desu

>No WAY is the election rigged; you're going to be crying when Trump loses fair and square!
>Hillary then loses
>RIGGED! RUSSIANS! HACKERS FROM eBaumsworld!

Snowden stole millions of secret documents. Only 3 were about metadata collection aka OMG SPYING ON AMERICANS!!! But he took millions of secret documents.

Source

You commit treason when you give information to your enemy. The purpose of the leaks were to inform the American people that they were being spied on. Are you implying that the American people are the enemy of the government? If so, this was as righteous an act of treason if there ever was one.

I would say there will be a day of the rope for mindless, state boot-lickers but we will always be outnumbered by cowards who will always throw stones at the first call of blood by the government. People like Snowden will only be truly respected after there deaths. What a sad world we live in.

Unbelievable that you don't know this. His leaks fueled news stories about secret operations of multiple allied countries not just the USA.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Global_surveillance_disclosures

Good question. There's a pretty heated debate about that, but our government isn't interested in the opposing viewpoint tbqh. Some think the massive data collection violates the Fourth Amendment. The (((neo cons))) don't give a shit because they're interested in power, nothing else.

How about this?

> A U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report declassified in June 2015 said that Snowden took 900,000 Department of Defense files, more than he downloaded from the NSA.[76]

says a fucking leaf...

See

He is a traitor

Can you trust that report?
What motivations do you think prompted him to do so?

Well, as far as my opinion goes..
I don't see any point of not pardoning Snowden. But that is only because I am not aware of any real consequences of his "treachery"

But Trump-sama shouldn't pardon him at all.
This guy is right on point

>Also the US media will never support it
I don't remember the media supporting Trump. Why is it so important now?

>Funny how Sup Forums-tards are against "big government" but don't mind them spying at everything their citizens do.
how do you even come to this conclusion.

Explain this, then.

>Can you trust that report?
Yes, there is a lot of evidence that he stole a fuckton of stuff. Including articles written based on some of the documents in the early days. Obviously state actors have it all now.

>they just don't understand the concept of freedom

Stay cuck'd. I honestly wish Canada would get nuked.

It just says that Russia would return him with an apology. Not that he'd go free.

Snowden, for all the talk of "revelations," with the exception of fancy program names didn't reveal any activity that hadn't been publicly known and discussed for years.

That doesn't make those activities OK, they're just as unconstitutional now as they were then.

But the "Snowden" leaks were as real as the "Guccifer 2.0" dump - an attempt to gain attention without revealing anything meaningfully new.

We should also note that by publicizing activities that were already known - but which were not in any way changed post-Snowden - Snowden served the useful government purpose of normalizing the unconstitutional.

And for historical context, "Snowden" magically appeared just as the MSM was beginning to call for Obama's impeachment for things like using the IRS for partusan purposes and Fast & Furious gunrunning. So "Snowden" appears, reveals nothing new, normalizes the unconstitutional surveillance state, and saves Obama.

"Snowden" isn't some kind of traitor, he's a government operative.

snowbump

What's the spin value of the push to cast government operative Snowden as a traitor? Is this preliminary CTR work to use against Trump if-when Trump pardons Snowden?

Clinton is CIA faction
Trump is NSA faction

Trump won't let Snowden have a fair and open trial. Trump would suspend habeas corpus to the FISA courts which is a kangaroo court and they would kill this patriot who proved our government is going full 1984