The Trump Solar Wall

Help me, Autists. Two questions... If President Trump builds a 2000 mile long wall featuring gigantic solar panels like in this photo, how much power would it generate? Part two, how many liberals would have brain strokes thinking about the Great Green Wall?

It would generate more power than you could possible imagine

Haha...thats why i asked...i cant math that.

Putting solar panels on a wall is kinda stupid considering you get even less sunlight per day than a roof panel which still only gets sunlight for half the day, if its not cloudy

Someone needs to send a carrier pigeon to trump about this idea. He needs to do this.

This. Put them on top.

its not cloudy where the wall will be
solar panels on top sounds cool

Cost benefit ratio, also maintenance.
I'm not saying it would be retarded but yeah it is full retard

better than no power a day from a regular wall

That's where the razor wire goes though

have you ever been south of Albuquerque? theres non stop sunshine along the border, (except at night)

>Solar panels on the side of a wall
>Autism incarnate.

>spend millions on solar wall
>angry beaners and leftists break the panels on solar wall

But hey at least we had a solar wall for 10 seconds

Bah...defeatist-literalists. We put the panels along the top of the wall between the machine gun turrents. Problem solved.

Why would you do that on a north south facing wall?

>solar panels work best when at an angle
>lets put them straight on a wall!
>a wall that people will no doubt vandalize

the real question is how fucking dumb would you have to be to think this is a good idea?

You're better off making it a pipeline or transit way.

Good point. I guess they could be set up teepee style along the top, so we have total east-west positioning from the Gulf of mexico to the pacific.

Ive seen cone shaped solar panels. You must be ctr haha

you think liberals wouldn't break the panels in the solar wall of oppression?

>dont build anything ever cause someone might break it.

and its obvious to keep the panels off the beaner side

If they break it we promise to burn coal along the border, especially the california part.

Yeah, let's build a stupidly expensive centralized power structure right on the very edge of our land that borders an unstable country.

Lacks the understanding of maximizing resources.
Mexico world vandalize it daily, rendering it useless.
Lacks the simple math of exposure (most panels are put at angles for a reason).
Gives the illegals something to utilize in climbing.

No. If that's what you want, put it in the middle of WY where it will be respected and not abused.

Thank you for mentioning that. that brings me to a side benefit...Mexico will protect the wall from their side because we agree to sell them dirt cheap power generated by the wall. Mexicans buy the power, therefore paying part of the expense, and come to see protecting the wall as part of their own national security.

Put them on stalks above the wall.
They power a battery/ups system that works an electrified fence.

Actually, it's not, because the energy and material costs of producing a bunch of useless solar panels is far greater than the benefit of the energy they produce. Then when you factor in the necessary maintenance due to vandalism from anti-government protesters and drug cartels, and suddenly the solar wall becomes a money sink that continually drains the economy for little benefit.

The solar panels can power the electric fences and turret guns to keep the shit skins out. What a green way of protecting our border!

Not enough to justify sideways solarpanels.

Fuk solar do thorium atomic

>thorium atomic
this

>thinking the guy that's fighting wind power at his golf courses would ever consider solar roads and airplanes

Ah, well...cant say i never tried. i would like to thank each of you for letting me know that trying is for losers and it is always better to shoot down every idea than build upon it till something great is born from it.

as for me i will continue to believe Donald trump is a master builder capable of creating a solar wall to infuriate liberals and provide our border citizens with lights to see illegals they shoot at at night.

that

Tesla's Solar Roof™ doesn't have this problem. But seriously, put them on the guard station roofs or some shit.

>keep the panels off the beaner side
what and put them on the north side?
dumbfuck

if you plan it well the panels can follow the sun light and burn trespassers

What if they dynamically adjusted throughout the day to maximize sun time, hanging like but moving like a door hinge 180 degrees?

> If President Trump builds a 2000 mile long wall featuring gigantic solar panels like in this photo, how much power would it generate?

Considering a 2000 mile (3,218,688 meters) long wall with a southern exposure, at a relative solar intensity of 200 watts per square meter, and a height of "TEN FEET HIGHER", or 20 feet... (6 meters)

The US mexico border is at roughly 35 degrees north, so the solar isolation on a horizontal wall is only a fraction of a solar panel at a 90 degree off angle to the suns rays (lets say 70 percent of total, or 140 watts per square meter instead of 200)

So: 3,218,688 meters * 6 meters = 19,312,128 total meters

at 140 watts per square meter you get roughly 2,703,697,920 watts (2.7 gigawatts)

Note, this is assumed for perfect conditions (no clouds) and the intensity varies throughout the day (reaching peak at noon, and less towards dawn and dusk) with nothing during the night.

At a rough calculation of 8 hours solar insolation per day, cut down to 6 hours for the area under the curve during dusk and dawn hours, you receive roughly 16,222,187,520 watt hours, or 16 terrawatt hours total power per day.

Seasonal flux may alter this figure at other times during the year.

>Part two, how many liberals would have brain strokes thinking about the Great Green Wall?

All of them.

We can use some of the power generated by the solar panels to electrify the wall too

You could tilt the panels and stack them vertically. They do best at an angle between 30-45 degrees if I remember correctly.

This could actually be a great fucking idea. The only question is, since they have to face south, will the mexicans fuck them up? Most likely yes.

You know this is a interesting point.
Awhile back a scientist who specializes in this field said you would have to stretch a panel from one coast to the next just to power one city.
But imagine if you will you have this wall, on each side is panels from one end to the next, and then a panel ontop.

You could transport that energy to various places near by if needed.

HIGH ENERGY

>One side of the solar panels has the electricity sold to Mexico.
>Mexicans break a panel.
>Their government fucks over the bandito.

You could just put the solar panels on top of the wall supported by bracers

also the laser CIWS systems and railgun turrets

This Make Shoulder Knot Hurt!

No point putting the panels facing north, you can probably figure out why.

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The United States uses 4,986,400,000 megawatt hours per year (13,661,369 megawatt hours per day) or 13.7 terawatt hours per day.

So, if completed, it would basically power the entire U.S. (although storing the power for the night would be a little tricky.)

>how many liberals would have brain strokes thinking about the Great Green Wall?

brilliant

Great. We can use it to power tesla coils that bbq any overly curious wetbacks.

>solar panel meme

they only reason i would support this meme is if they power literally high energy weapons to heat up approaching invaders

okay, That original calculation should have been 16 gigawatt hours, instead of terawat hours...

So, it would only be about 1/1000th of the power the US uses per day.

Mea culpa.

If the solar panels move according to the sun they'll have to go over into mexican side for a few hours and then they'll just get stolen

This question would depend on how big the solar panels are but assuming they are 10ft by 10ft or 1.5kw (on a house of similar size) , then 1500 miles to ft (5280 ft/mile) divide by 10 ft sections and multiply by 1.5kw. I come up with apx 3 Gw of power.

Put them on top with a special lubricant that will increase the solar panel's charge, and make wall jumpers slip. bust their ass, and injure themselves.

>mexican drug cartels sneak in at night when the system is down, steal all the railguns

That's a lot of power though, that's a city like Dallas, Houston and Austin combined. It all matters

Right below the lip and on top of the solar panels

Shut the Fuck up Ahmed. The freedomlanders are talking. As of your support even matters.

On OP idea, I'd like it if it energizes weapons to take down invaders.

they'd face to the south, to the beaners. hardly a safe place

In fact I had the same idea and calculated this a few weeks ago, assuming the use of spray-on solar cells instead of panels (they're cheaper and also less efficicient, but you have this enormous surface after all).

It kind of shattered by belief in green power, because the output was surprisingly little (the equlivalent of roughly powering 100,000 households), considering the enormous costs (if you also include the costs for the construction of power transmission and storage facilities, maintenance etc.).

Actually that's the perfect place for a bunch of solar panels. We have so much land on the border, we need one big wall then slanted solar panels behind it to protect it from the illegals. If they get stuck there, the illegals fry to death. Then another wall to keep the liberals on our side out. It would power 1/4th the country.

3,200,000 metre long x 8m high
=25,600,000 m^2
>use panel 2 sq metre
12,800,000 panels @270 watts/panel
>3,456,000 kilowatts
If you covered every square metre of the wall & would add 256000000 in weight

>put solar panels on the wall
>beaners steal them
>declare Mexicans environmental terrorists
>annex Mexico for the good of the planet
>mfw liberals can't say a thing against it

>hurr put them on the north side
The North gets the least amount of sunlight than any of the cardinal directions. Take a lap.

what if the solar panels powered laser autoturrets that vaporized all beaners who come within 100 feet of the wall?

that it so crazy it might just work

Typical cost of a solar panel is about $5-$10 per square foot.

19,312,128 square meters = 207,874,015 square feet

Giving a rough calculation of around $2 billion dollars for the whole project. (Not including installation, wiring, power coupling, phase oscillators, power storage, load balancing, etc)

So, basically it would have the equivalent output of a medium-to-large sized turbine power plant, with the added bonus of no fuel cost.

Although maintinance would be a nightmere, and I would imagine sabotage would be quite easy...

As well as graffiti being a potentially huge problem.

build a horizental wall

says the country who replaced nuclear power with coal and solar panels(in a cloudy cunt) and then proclaimed itself "green". If they put solar panels on it the propaganda value alone would be big

Well the solution is quite simple. Just move the actual border wall about 20 feet back from the border so you can have a road in front patrolled 24/7 by border patrol

Nothing because they have to face the sun , which they do best in the are angled and can move.

REALLY

That's a ROAD.

Jesus Christ man, you know nothing about Mexicans, they would steal that shit within 20 seconds of em putting em up, guy would install it turn around to get next and shit would be gone when he turned around to hang it... "Damn it Joe, that's the 15th one today....."

Solar Panels>POWER>Divert Power to a little Mexishit village with a Trump Casino

Everyones head explodes.

>Help me, Autists. Two questions... If President Trump builds a 2000 mile long wall featuring gigantic solar panels like in this photo, how much power would it generate? Part two, how many liberals would have brain strokes thinking about the Great Green Wall?
Solar panels either have to rotate, or be inclined to catch sun half a day on one side, and half a day on the other (when on a roof for example).

Vertical solar panels don't do shit.

Also, they randomly stop working.

Solar thermal power collectors would be higher efficiency, and could be used for direct process (steam heating for example) and so could couple directly to a standard power turbine.

Pic related is an evacuated flat plate collector (double sided, vaccum sealed, with collection mirrors) from SRB energy systems (I've been following their work for some years)

Instead of using photovoltaics to convert photons into electricity, the evcuated flat plate harvests the solar energy as THERMAL energy, that can be used for process (steam generation, absorption chiller firing, etc) and for HVAC purposes has potentially a higher efficiency of conversion than photovoltaics (electrical production is still relatively inefficient though)

>Well the solution is quite simple. Just move the actual border wall about 20 feet back from the border so you can have a road in front patrolled 24/7 by border patrol

Or we could just put the solar panels behind the wall.

This desu

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Honestly, the only way it could work is if they had panels for a mile or so of the wall and start judging if it's worth it from there, beaners and liberals wrecking and sabotaging it should be considered.

can you attach solar panels to a fence? Asking for a friend... defiantly not Donald Trump though

Then they would be facing north and get drastically reduced amounts of sunlight.

(continued) also, solar thermal systems last longer than photovoltaics, since there are no electron hole filling problems.

(Photovoltaics power output decays at a halflife of roughly 15-20 years.

I came to post this.
Imagine putting the wall up then butt-blasted Mexicans smashing it constantly.

Answer: It wouldn't generate more power than a solar panel array that's just trying to be a solar panel array instead of both an array and a wall.

Go find thunderfoot's youtube videos where he shits on solar roadways. It explains it pretty well. There's no reason to combine solar panels with civil architecture because solar panels are most economic where there's a shitload of clear weather and they can turn to face the sun.

I mean the wall is in the fucking desert, and there's some spots that might be good areas for solar panels, but it will always be a new layer of complication to put it on the wall.

>Then they would be facing north and get drastically reduced amounts of sunlight.

No, they would be facing south, but they would be far enough away from the wall so that the sunlight could still hit them.

They would have to be on the American side o the wall.

Makes liberals hate mexicans. Makes them think they should maybe have less of them on this side of the wall. It would be win-win. If it doesn't get broken we win fiscally, if it does get broken we win the psy-op.

This is a pretty good idea. Mexicunts will try to break the solar panels in protest of the wall. Which will piss the leftists off due to "mah clean powah"

the USA side would face North, away from the sun

Mexico is going to pay for the Wall now and forever!

Fuck that put them on the southern side and watch them get destroyed by peaceful undocumented immigrants that have the exact same ideas and princples of an average liberal

I'm imaging the panels on a sloping roof. Roof slopes North, keeping the panels oriented South and behind the protective features of the Beaner Wall.

>build a Wall that will literally never stop a Mexican

Genius.

>put fake solar panels on the border to bait mexicans into wrecking them, so you won't lose money on the damaged panels and still convince libtards to let them build the wall
2 birds 1 stone.

How would it not stop them? Putting the border wall back 20 feet isn't going to suddenly allow them to get past it. It's just to provide a buffer against spics destroying the solar panels.

Obviously there would be a nuclear reactor to power it at night shitstain

There's no need for fucking solar panels. While all the other nations phase out coal power and bring in so-called "green" energy, America will keep on using coal from miners Trump will put back in business. Besides, who needs solar panels? They're just useless since we have coal and oil, which libtards want ro phase out because of "global warming". So sad people believe in that global warming and climate change crap