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卐 - BOOKS (1)
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>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (English)
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>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (Deutsch)
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>Adolf Hitler - The Words of Adolf Hitler
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>A Squire's Trial - an introduction to National Socialism
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>Adolf Ehrt - Communism in Germany
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>Adolf Ehrt - Bewaffnetter Aufstand!
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>Gottfried Feder - The Program Of The NSDAP The National Socialist Workers' Party And Its General Conceptions
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>Gottfried Feder - Das Programm der NSDAP (Deutsch)
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>Gottfried Feder - Manifesto For The Abolition Of Interest Slavery
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>Gottfried Feder The German State On A National And Socialist Foundation
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>George Lincoln Rockwell - White Power
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>George Lincoln Rockwell - This Time The World
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>Politically Incorrect Books Archive:
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>The New Order - Collateral Reading
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>Tomislav Sunic - Art in the Third Reich: 1933-1945
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>A. James Gregor - Mussolini's Intellectuals
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>The Triumph of Reason - The Thinking Man's Adolf Hitler by Michael Walsh
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>Arthur Bryant - Unfinished Victory (1940)
>Prominent British historian writes a fairly objective prehistory of WWII
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>William Joyce – Twilight Over England
>Twilight Over England compared the evils of Jewish-dominated capitalist Britain with the successes of National Socialist Germany.
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>Jewish Domination Of Weimar Germany 1919-1932, Eckart-Verlag
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>Arthur Pillans Laurie - The Case for Germany: A Study of Modern Germany
>a view of National-Socialist Germany by a Scottish scholar inside Hitler's Third Reich.
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>Percy Stephensen - The Foundations Of Culture In Australia: An Essay Towards National Self-Respect
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>Leon Degrelle - Campaign in Russia: the Waffen SS on the Eastern Front
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>David Duke - My Awakening: A Path to Racial Understanding
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>The Works of David Irving
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>James Bacque - Other Losses
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>James Bacque - Crimes and Mercies
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>Savitri Devi - Gold in the Furnace
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>Savitri Devi - Impeachment of Man
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>Savitri Devi - Defiance
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>Maurice Samuels - You Gentiles
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>Henry Ford - The International Jew
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>Wayne MacLeod - The Importance of Race in Civilization
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>Israel Shahak - Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of 3,000 Years
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>Matt Koehl - The Revolutionary Nature of National Socialism
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>Colin Jordan - National Socialism: Vanguard of the Future
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>Kevin MacDonald - Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilization, Jewish Influence and Anti-Semitism
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>Kevin MacDonald - The Culture of Critique
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卐 - BRITISH NATSOC
>Jonathan Bowden:
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卐 - GERMAN NATSOC
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>Why Germany Invaded Poland
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>Polish atrocities against the Germans
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>Eisenhower's Rhine-Meadows Death Camps
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>Hellstorm - Post-war Genocide of Germans
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>The Rape of Berlin
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>Hitler's War - the Allies caused the war
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>25 Demands of National Socialism:
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>Rodney Martin - The Economic Plan of the NSDAP
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>German Economic Miracle of the 1930's
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>Hitler's Economic Reform:
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>Social and Cultural Policies of NS Germany
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>Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel)
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>NatSoc German Economic Policy
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>Hitler's Warning about the Zionist Control Structure
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>Adolf Hitler: Man of Peace?
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>Hitler: We Want Nothing But Peace
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>Hitler's Appeal for Peace in 1939
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These ones were great, but I only have one saved. Anyone got the rest?
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I have 2, don't remember any others desu
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What's the key ideas of natsoc? I'm doing research, such as reading through some of the books in the pastebin. So far I've got the following:
>collectivism (society before self)
>respect for authority
>nationalism
>traditional cultural values
>people are not equal
>self improvement (ubermensch)
>remove (((ursury))) and interest rates
>nationalized banks
>nationalized businesses
>self sufficient nation
Does this sound accurate? Anything I'm missing?
If you understand how the economy works in NatSoc, just add nationalism to it. Socially, it's equality for all. They were also ethnic nationalists. Here's what their economy was like:
"Socialism" to the natsocs was redefined as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "jewish capitalism", aka, "international finance capitalism", globalism, wall street, etc. Essentially a version of Keyneseanism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopts it. Its not one dogmatic economic system, so it could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But its is, in all cases, pro-"producer capitalism", over "finanace capitalism"/globalism:
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>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
-- Adolf Hitler 1938
>Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel)
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>Hitler, genocidal monster that he was, was also the first practicing Keynesian leader. ... There were vast public works, such as the autobahns. He paid little attention to the deficit or to the protests of the bankers about his policies.
>German economists in the early 1930s were well aware of Keynes' work and were developing theories along parallel lines. These involved the now familiar prescription for economic depressions of large budget deficits, public works programs and easy credit.
Huge national deficit spending is something I can't get myself to agree with. Spending money you don't have does not seem wise for the future good of a nation. Also doesn't sound any different from fiat currency and debt-based banking today.
Does anyone remember froghurt? What happened to him?
He was in a thread a few days ago.
>froghurt
That was a painful period /nsg/ had to endure
Fascism doesn't work you dumbass pooflords
wait wtf he's right??? Pack it up boys, time to head home.
>doesn't work
Do you know what the 4 components of an argument are? Google it, we'll wait.
He was hear earlier this week. I think he's done trying to shoah us with stupidity
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>implying National Socialism is fascism
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>implying fascism and natsoc have less in common than not
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NatSoc and Fascism are at odds to eachother and wouldn't allow eachother to exist
>implying they are compatible
The only similarities between National Socialism and Fascism are:
>Authoritarian
>Nationalist
>Militaristic
That's it.
>NatSoc and Fascism are at odds to eachother
Hmmmm
>and wouldn't allow eachother to exist
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>The only similarities between National Socialism and Fascism are:
>>Authoritarian
>>Nationalist
>>Militaristic
>That's it
You don't think Italy's Race Code and Aryanism was oddly similar to natsoc's?
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Doesn't mean shit. Hitler was allied and doing deals with the Soviets at one point and he thought of them as his greatest enemy. He had no plans to treat Fascists as equals once the war was won. He was using them for control of the mediterranean and an extra front on France.
Tbqh I haven't looked at Italy's race code much, care to englighten me? Even if they are similar, it's hardly surprising because both political wings value nationalism.
What I do know is this:
Fascism's goal was to create a powerful state, and to give power to that state, corporations were given free reign and control, fuelling class warfare. Fascism is a means of business colluding with the state, to make the state powerful.
National socialism is completely different. Their goal is to create a strong "country," (not state) by empowering the people, especially the poor and unemployed. By lifting up people, making them healthy, giving them jobs by the means of using the state to incentivise business, they create a strong, healthy workforce which in turn creates a strong, nationalist country.
Fascism uses the boot of the state and corporations to keep its all of its citizens in line and productive. Nationa socialism empowers the people and then anyone who still isn't satisfied (traitors) are imprisoned or removed from the core of the society.
Worshipping the state by giving corporations free reign over people =/= lifting up the people by incentivising corporations, in order to create a strong country.
Whenever people think of fascism's policies, they think of powerful corporations getting cosy with the government in order to crush workers rights, right? That's not National Socialism at all.
Well fascism does not put an emphasis on race as national socialism does. And the racial laws Mussolini placed were influences from hitler and as well to appease to him. Same goes for the anti semetic laws that were both placed in the late 30s.
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All races can be Nazis.
I wouldn't describe it as colluding, fascism uses Corporatism which merges each major interest group or corporate group into working towards community interests towards the state, also allowing easy regulation from the state to deem what is "safe" and "unsafe" to the people.
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"I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own."
-Adolf Hitler
And I'll add a couple of things I forgot to mention.
While fascism empowers corporations and makes use of the class system to keep a "tiered" society, NatSoc hates and abolished the class system entirely, bringing everyone up to a certain standard of living as a starting point. These 2 ideologies are completely incompatable on just this aspect alone.
Second, NatSoc gives great importance to race, national identity and unity. While Fascism also values national identity (for Mussolini recreating the Roman Empire), Fascism isn't focused on race and pride of one's race and heritage. From what I've looked into Fascist Italy, people of different ethnicities were generally all valued by the state, as long as they could provide work, and the sence of national pride was more in etrms of "pride in the state" than pride in your race. This is another point where fascism and NatSoc are generally incompataible.
And a closing point is that generally the masses are extremely uneducated on political ideologies and their nuiances. When people think fascist, they think big armies, corrupt government and corporations, crushing of worker's rights, militaristic leaders wearing fatigues. While some of these are true of NatSoc, they aren't core NatSoc values and some are distinctly against NatSoc. People just associate Nazi Germany with Fascism because "fascism is an evil word and the Nazis were evil right?"
That's one of the main reasons people don't understand what Fascism is. The same can be said about Communism and Marxism funnily enough.
>Doesn't mean shit.
Threadly reminder what you've said we've demonstrated as false or nonsensical:
>natsoc and fascism were "at odds', and "wouldn't allow each other to exist"
In fact, they were allied; the "Axis" was the alliance of all fascistic governments.
>the only similarities were authoritarianism, nationalist, militarism
We know they also shared the same racial laws, based in the same (or broadly similar) racial philosophy.
Now let's examine further claims you're making in this post:
>Hitler was allied and doing deals with the Soviets
Until he wasn't.
>He had no plans to treat Fascists as equals once the war was won
Source.
>He was using them for control of the mediterranean and an extra front on France.
France fell quickly in 1940 and surrender. He didn't "need another front on France", because he had all of France.
>Tbqh I haven't looked at Italy's race code much, care to englighten me?
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>Fascism's goal was to create a powerful state, and to give power to that state, corporations were given free reign and control
Accurate.
>fuelling class warfare
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>Fascism is a means of business colluding with the state, to make the state powerful
Yup.
>National socialism is completely different
Sigh. Pic related.
>Their goal is to create a strong "country," (not state) by empowering the people
Those aren't mutally exclusive, you're applying a Marxist ideological framework to make analysis. Try to be objective.
>Fascism uses the boot of the state and corporations to keep its all of its citizens in line and productive.
"uses the boot" - describe what that means, exactly. Sounds like garbled allied propaganda.
>Nationa socialism empowers the people and then anyone who still isn't satisfied (traitors) are imprisoned or removed from the core of the society
...by the state, right? Not by "the people" -- where did you even get this crackpot idea?
>Whenever people think of fascism's policies, they think of powerful corporations getting cosy with the government in order to crush workers rights, right?
Yeah, normalfags think alot of retarded shit they get from watching the history channel
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>Politically Incorrect Books Archive:
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>A. James Gregor - Mussolini's Intellectuals
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>The Triumph of Reason - The Thinking Man's Adolf Hitler by Michael Walsh
archive.org
>Gottfried Feder - The Program Of The NSDAP The National Socialist Workers' Party And Its General Conceptions
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I mean, I'm sure theres nuiances I'm not aware of about Fascism in Italy, because I generally haven't looked into Fascist Italy much. I consider them just another anti-citizen political ideology. The reason I value National Socialism is it instills pride in the people and in your heritage, which I thinka re both very important for the health of a country.
But yes, what you said sounds about right from what I've read. But the thing about the relationship with the state and corporations under fascism is it creates an "inner circle" kind of group, where corporate elites cosy up with the state leaders, and in turn, get preferential treatment. This is one of the main reasons a lot of business elites get called fascists these days, because they are seen as working backroom deals with the state and being above the law.
In National Socialist Germany, there was no collusion with corporations. It was more classical "socialist" approaches where the state would influence corprotations to focus on specific sectors by giving them state support. Hitler wanted infrastructure in Germany built up, so what he did was announce the mandate of building this infrastgructure and gave incentives for construction companies to hire a lot of people and start building them, with state funding. And remember, he valued the health and living standards of the people, so he made sure there were cafeterias and socializing spaces all across industrial sectors and mandated working hours and paid holidays. He rewarded the companies which did the best job on these issues with more work and state funding, whcih in turn hires more people into these good work standard environments.
The more "authoritarian" stuff was setting prices for certain things, like rent, food and energy, in order to prevent corporations taking advantage of too much profit and pricing the poor our of living standards.
I have yet to see an argument which sways my mind on this position.
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Well, Japan was all over the place. THey were more liability than anything. Had they attacked the Soviet Union and not attacked the US, Germany would have taken Moscow.
Everyone here spends a lot of time studying this subject, and I recognize about 10% of the claims you're making. it sounds like youre just pulling shit out of your ass.
Fascism is as ultra nationalist as national socialism. Fascism and National socialism on a metaphysical comparison are entirely the same. Sure fascism doesn't place the emphasis on race but it instills the same amount of pride and love for one's country, if not, even more. Also fascism does not forget about heritage either. Hence on Mussolini trying to recreate the Roman empire in Italy. And as for the "cosy up" part, it wouldn't be common and or happen at all. The state values the people and regulates these corporates from gaining to much power or control, as nothing can come above the state.
>In National Socialist Germany, there was no collusion with corporations
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>It was more classical "socialist" approaches where the state would influence corprotations to focus on specific sectors by giving them state support.
"Socialism" to the natsocs was redefined as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "jewish capitalism", aka, "international finance capitalism", globalism, wall street, etc. Essentially a version of Keyneseanism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopts it. Its not one dogmatic economic system, so it could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But its is, in all cases, pro-"producer capitalism", over "finanace capitalism"/globalism:
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>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
-- Adolf Hitler 1938
>Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel)
ub.edu
>townhall.com
>jstor.org
>mises.org
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>wikipedia in a world where the west won.
No. In pretty much every source text found, it was stated that Communism, specifically Balshevism was the true enemy of Europe, and on top of that, Hitler liked Britain and their heritage. And since you're a lazy fuck using jewpedia, I will too.
en.wikipedia.org
>In fact, they were allied; the "Axis" was the alliance of all fascistic governments.
Very aware that they were allies. But they were Allies of necessity, not commitment. The exact same is true for Germany and Japan. Japan was very similar to Germany in the sence they thought the Japanese were the true race, at odds with the Germans. They allied during the war, but it was pretty clear that they had little in common in terms of ideological allies. Also
>fascistic governments
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>We know they also shared the same racial laws, based in the same (or broadly similar) racial philosophy.
Nope. Italy took on a similar approach after pressure from Hitler in terms of jews and such, but there wasn't a notion of Italian racial supremacy from the getgo. It was a "Holy Roman Empire" sort of supremacy.
>Until he wasn't.
Because they were, until that point, allies of necessity. Just like Italy and Japan.
>France fell quickly in 1940 and surrender. He didn't "need another front on France", because he had all of France.
A year after the war began. If he didn't have Italy as an ally he would have no control over the med, and since Britain had those islands in the med, as well as Gibraltar, if Hitler didn't have an allied presence in the Med, Britain and its allies could easily cut off Germany on its southern flank and control North Africa. An alliance with Italy gave Hitler a navy presence in the med, as the German navy had to contest with the British channel to approach the mediterranean.
>lolwut...
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>>wikipedia in a world where the west won.
Is English your first language? What the fuck does that even mean?
>No. In pretty much every source text found, it was stated that Communism, specifically Balshevism was the true enemy of Europe, and on top of that, Hitler liked Britain and their heritage
Yeah...how does have ANYTHING to do with what I posted?
> And since you're a lazy fuck using jewpedia...
Motherfucker, you sound like you're 13 years old with a brain injurty. Click my ID, scroll to the top, familiarize yourself with how much I know on the topics you're spitting at me. You're an inarticulate idiot with terrible communication skills.
>tl;dr
Half of what you're saying you're making up, and it's obvious.
>Their goal is to create a strong "country," (not state) by empowering the people
>Those aren't mutally exclusive, you're applying a Marxist ideological framework to make analysis. Try to be objective.
One of Hitler's core beliefs was that a healthy Aryan race, where the poor were uplifted and everyone was given a role and identity in life, would strengthen the grounty and give it a national resolve. Nothing to do with Marxism, I suggest you read up on what Marxism is.
>"uses the boot" - describe what that means, exactly. Sounds like garbled allied propaganda.
All Italians were expected to obey Mussolini and his Fascist Party. Authority was enforced by the use of the Blackshirts – the nickname for the Fasci di Combattimenti. Those men in this unit were usually ex-soldiers and it was their job to bring into line those who opposed Mussolini. It was the Blackshirts who murdered the socialist Matteotti – an outspoken critic of Mussolini. The motto of the Blackshirts was “Me ne frego” (I do not give a damn”)
>...by the state, right? Not by "the people" -- where did you even get this crackpot idea?
Of course enforced by the state. The difference was that in Germany the people saw the success of the nation under National Socialism and thus were very loyal to Hitler and the country, so anyone espousing dissent were usually suspected of being Communists or beign influenced by Jews, so they were outed by the people. In italy, it was the blackshirts' job to find those dissenters because people generally kept to themselves, hoping not to rock the boat and suffer the punishment of the state.
>Yeah, normalfags think alot of retarded shit they get from watching the history channel
True
>wall of nonsense
go away kid, you're too young to be here
Indeed, and I spend a lot of time here too, years even. And I see plenty of people here every day who do not understand that Italian fascism isn't National Socialism.
>Yeah...how does have ANYTHING to do with what I posted?
You literally posted a screenshot of the Pact of steel from Wikipedia.
>Motherfucker, you sound like you're 13 years old with a brain injurty. Click my ID, scroll to the top, familiarize yourself with how much I know on the topics you're spitting at me. You're an inarticulate idiot with terrible communication skills.
I don't need to check your ID, you are literally the only person spamming me with constant disillusions about fascism. You've linked a couple of non-wiki things, the rest has been wiki.
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Funnily enough, a lot of asians have Nazi sympathies and they love adopting Nazi vogue.
"Nazi-ism" Is about the national pride in your race and heritage, while creating a solid base for the Volk to live and work in good health and lfiestyle.
This can be applied to any country and any nationality. German National Socialists were specifically Aryan (white Europe) focused, but there's nothing to say that any race, even africans can adopt the same policies and apply them to their own race and culture.
In fact, Hitler wanted other races to uplift thneir own kind in their own country.
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