Prove true communism won't work

>Pro tip
You can't!

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Making the reward be equal to anyone that does or doesn't do work means the optimal solution is to never work at all.

Sage

Time to call the wise old Sage

What is the incentive to work and provide for those who are not of my family or tribe?

There's no incentive to work. It's called human nature.

Go home leftypol, you're jewish.

What is "true"?

what is this infestation of commie retards. kill em with fire

>what is this infestation of commie retards. kill em with fire

CTR found some retards on reddit and sent them here also faggots from cripplechan's /leftypol/ "rading" us

Prove my ever shifting definition won't work
>Pro tip
OP sucks cock!

It will, but not with the humanity. To make communism work we have to evolve to highly organized, natural moral and ethic hivemind.
living our lives as a separate beings with egoism but without unity is a strong opposition to communism.

It assumes everyone is perfect altruist.

here, I did it

>fall of USSR
>china still In poverty for 99% of the population
>North Korea is only best Korea because South Korea is cucked
>east Germany gave up on it
>Vietnam is still shithole
>venuezuela has armed guards at supermarkets because of food scarcity crisis

Geez, how many times did it fail again?

Because it involves humans, if you had a society of robots it would have a better chance of working.

Risk is a cost and therefore running the means of production carries with it the risk of failure. Most people are risk averse with some exceptions, entrepreneurs. In the real world workers will gladly take less money than business owners to avoid taking on the massive liability (cost) of risk.
Inequality will not be the results of exploitation but human nature. In true free markets (stressing true free markets), workers that feel exploited will be free to switch jobs. Business owners that are no good to work for will soon go out of business.

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oh burger man, communism is not about that, is about the State owning the means of production and providing a BASE for all. With that base guaranteed people can develop further.

Explain this "dialectical" meme, some faggot in my kikebook keeps using this word.

>implying it's even possible to get to communism

Vanguardism inevitably leads to Fascism whether you like it or not, and Anarchists have little options other than "sit around waiting for people to 'wake up' capitalism so the revolution can start".

You can talk about how capitalism can't sustain itself, and how communism works all you want, but in the end you don't even have the means to achieve it in the first place.

A society that bases its foundation off violent revolution and theft of capital is going to stagnate, not flourish.

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because the lack of reward leads to stagnation. We were part of a commie shithole. It left our country in a laughable condition

And then whatever extra you make is redistributed because wealth is a sign of oppression. Shill yourself back to neogaf you pathetic commietard.

this

>communism
>the state
What communism are you talking about?

WHERE'S THE ORIGINAL?

Most people would rather languish when given a base rather than thrive.If the governement were to do ANYTHING then those with the heritable traits of virtue and intelligence should be pushed toward spreading their genes. But there is no reason to trust a government with control over industry. Most good people do not devote their lives to governing, as was known for over 3000 years.

Can be solved really easy using client tab application and central server.
Yes, information exchange was the main problem with communism in the past, but nowadays with internet and high performance servers it can be solved in few days of programming.

And remember, money is an information too, yet it works

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>I choose to make no argument, but will provide this fallacy!

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You make the claim, you back it up. You don't get to throw out it works when every single last shred of evidence and real attempts to bring it about show it doesn't.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leszek_Kołakowski

I never realized just how much Lenin looks like Stefan Molyneux

i dont think communism is good but your post is not an argument

Given that it's a system that can't ever happen
Proven. SMD.

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You mean Stefan looks like Lenin

nice meme

Those were state capitalism so of-course it failed like capitalism always does

China's developed areas are very advanced, and they're growing quickly.
Also, you forgot to mention Rojava, Seychelles, Tito's Yugoslavia, and the other little-mentioned socialist and communist countries.

>Austrian economics
Into the trash it goes.

There have been communist and socialist systems.

Prove you can implement true communism and that it wouldn't end as "false" communism.

Pro tip: You can't.

VENEZUELA

>I'm 15 and gommunism is cool

Execute all the subersive elements and It would work! The USSR only collapsed because it was state capitalism and was undermined by western imperialism

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Prove "real" communism can work.

Marxists are the pinnacle of the subversive element though...

Doesn't matter how many hard facts i will throw you will never believe otherwise.

But there is something that hurts you, something that no mental gymnastic will solve.

The will of the peoples, in WW1 the reds believed that giving weapons to the workers with the false cause of war would make them revolt and instate a socialist regime. The result? commonfolks from ages 12-13 to 80 enlisted to fight for germany, with a patriotic fervor never seen in the germanic people before

Prior to WW2, the commies this time tried so hard, even showing their jewish descent in the open and taking arms thesemlves, the result? Nazi germany.
Way to missinterpret the people again.

Aren't you people the saviours and shepperds of the oppresed? interprets and protectors of the weak?

Failures

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schumpeter BTFO Mises in the 40's.

not an argument

marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1939/12/abc.htm

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They said the same thing over and over again from 60s to the 80s.

All of the people fleeing communist countries for capitalist ones.

>With that base guaranteed people can develop further.
then anything they develop is state owned as well so there's no point.

I love it when the (((state))) takes the business I started.

>Unironicaly not making an argument to counter his point
Not an argument

>That wasn't real communism
Not an argument nor proof nor does it help your cause.

Sage this commie shit

>Nobody tried my brand of communism, thus my brand must work

Never mind all those cases of people starving.

Only good communist is a dead communist.

>Master pooper making sense

You cannot prove a negative you dumb fuck.

Shos again that commies are incapable of critical thought.

True communism will assign values to people and jobs using computer intelligence, A.I. Every single communist when you pin them down on this question will admit it is not out of the question.

What about all the people fleeing capitalist countries only to struggle in their lives abroad? Also, there are Haitians who fled to Cuba because Cuba has a higher standard of living. If the borders weren't so secured against entrance I'm sure there would be more.

you have a reliable link behind this?

It cannot be implemented without violence

Communism always worked for it's intended purpose which is to violate individual freedom for control over the masses.

Sage

Not an argument.

The only reason people flee capitalist countries is for gibs in others.

I don't need to.
History continues to prove that for me.

Why do I have to prove something when history already has?

>You cannot prove a negative you dumb fuck.
You can actually but it's just super hard.

Please stop saying this reddit meme.

Oh yeah it's totally not because places like Haiti, Cambodia, much of India, Indonesia, and countless other countries are total shitholes.

>Burger arguing for gommunism.

>Nobody on Sup Forums is going to take the time to properly prove a negative

Better?

If "TRUE" X has never been tried 200 years after X was invented, but a century of misery has been brought on by "fake" X, there is probably something wrong with X

>muh dialectic
Commies are faggots, that's why.

>still making retarded arguments
nah

>true communism
piss off with your meme you cunt

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Chile vs Venezuela
USSR vs Russia
South Korea vs North Korea
ect ect

Nobody would want to live in a communist country

true communism can't exist
its predecessor, state capitalism, ie socialist dictatorship, always crashes and burns to the ground
that which can't exist can't work
true communism won't work
QEfuckingD.

Look at the commy countries that have all failed master faggot :^)

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This.
Fuck off right back to Ledd.it, OP.

> each person contributes according to their ability

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> there are Haitians who fled to Cuba because Cuba has a higher standard of living.

So a communist country is better than a nigger country. Doesn't make it ideal.

if your system is so fucking brittle and poorly balanced that 100% of its applications inevitably become corrupt and shitty, then your system is garbage. the only political systems worth having are those that work at least fairly well even when applied imperfectly (i.e. by societies in the real world).

there is no true communism outside of a toy universe in a game theory simulation running on some geek's thinkpad.

>/leftpol/
the place is degenerate as fuck full of people who cannot into a real arguments and reason.
degenerates overflowing and now they are stealing our memes

Stop raiding this place you stupid commie fucks, no one's buying what you're selling.

You're right, I can't.

Somebody should try it.

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