So the US is introducing a new law that will allow the FBI to hack and search any computer found using a VPN or Tor.
>The newly approved rule change by the U.S. Supreme Court will allow FBI to search and seize any computer around the world, found to be using privacy tools like VPN or Tor. The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday quietly approved a rule change to Rule No.41, that would allow a federal magistrate judge to issue a search and seizure warrant for any target using anonymity software like Tor to browse the internet.
>Rule 41 will become a law in December if the U.S. Congress doesnt take any legislative action against it. As said in our previous article, the new ruling bestows enormous powers to FBI to be able to search computers remotely—even if the bureau doesn’t know where that computer is located—if a user has anonymity software installed on it.
>The rule changes, which the FBI said were necessary to combat cyber crime, come amid escalating tensions between the intelligence community and technology and privacy advocates, and just a day after the U.S. House of Representatives advanced a bill that would require the government to obtain a probable cause warrant from a judge before seizing data stored with tech companies such as Facebook, Google, and Dropbox.
the only US- gouvernement approved pizza place of course
Lincoln Hughes
bump
John Price
It violates our constitutions privacy and warrant amendments. If someone is taken to court because the FBi hacked their shit the FBI will get sued.
Joseph Baker
I don't really get it. How do they detect if a computer is using a VPN or Tor?
Samuel Green
Good luck I'm behind 7 tors
Andrew Scott
Use
USB S B + TAILS A I L S
Brayden Cox
They have to get a warrant. This is nothing.
If they couldn't do this, they'd just get a warrant to seize your whole fucking computer.
Wyatt Reed
Hell, tbqh
Dominic Brown
I don't think they really pay attention to that anymore since they Patriot Act.
Colton Evans
ISPs could give that information.
Matthew Cruz
Comet Ping Pong
Justin Peterson
CYBER COMMIES BTFO
Cooper Wright
tfw the botnet wants you to starve
Brody Phillips
This can't be constitutional...
Carter Wright
Good.
Tor is mostly used by Pedos anyway.
Fuck the deep web. If you're not a degenerate pedo or a drug addict piece of shit, you have nothing to hide.
Luke Gomez
Is it really private though?
Aiden Adams
Oh no they will discover my secret love of giraffes.
> /S
Christopher Rodriguez
yes, no logs, no data, you are just a ghost, you are nobody and you are nowhere...
Luke Phillips
>BOO HOO Now I have to BUY Civ 6 with my own moines WAAAHHH
Robert Edwards
>tfw Tails is so fucking nice Mine came with drawing software and some other goodies
Jack Thompson
...
Colton Diaz
I don't even use a VPN or Tor besides, I'm not even American
Cooper Howard
they already are doing it, this is just a late excuse
Luke Richardson
SAY IT WITH ME
LAND OF THE FREE
David Perry
this and all attempts like it fail every time. changolia is growing.
Owen Hill
LMAO, you think the establishment will stop at the pedos if they get their hands on that much power? If they can crush online dissent (which was one of the main things that made them lose they election) they will do it. Probably under the guise of stopping "radicalism" or "fake news" or one of those other bullshit narratives. Say goodbye to Sup Forums.
The only reason to go into the deep web is to buy heroin or sex slaves.
Elijah Ward
wtf but i wanted to buy guns and explosives at one point to blow up muzzies
James Smith
They have to. A search is a search and seizure is a seizure. Warrant-less arrests, searches and seizures are an easy lawsuit and can get the people involved jailed and fired. Many such cases!
Lincoln Morris
YOU
Joseph Myers
Tor is safe and always will be. The only people that get caught are sellers, traders and attention seekers
Lucas Martinez
Oh shut the fuck up Sweden, like you're any better.
Nicholas Miller
>troll trace
Jayden Bailey
>this is what techniggers actually believe
Eli Miller
It's not that big of a change for the feds to be looking through our computers.
Ethan Phillips
There goes my best means of downloading EDUCATIONAL books from Tor onions and through Tor itself to work around clearnet websites that I couldn't download from my own IP.
THANKS, OBAMA
Kevin Jackson
the US loves to operate on foreign soil
Kayden Collins
and how long until having opposing opinions to the status quo is enough to classify as hate speech and thus a cyber crime. Like say opposing an immigration policy and such?
And what about whistleblowers who need the security of maximum privacy?
If its unconstitutional then it would be a waste of time and im sure the Feds are smart enough to know this so its reasonable to assume there are ulterior motives
Too hard desu. I couldn't figure it out. I got it working on my windows PC after two days of troubleshooting, but then I had no way of bringing my PGP stuff in and use it. So I gave up. I will wait for the FBI to release a more userfriendly version so I can safely use it for hatefacts.
Levi Mitchell
>tfw never used this pedoshit anyways they're doing the world a service
Gavin Mitchell
>hiding from the USA on a US Military network
Levi Kelly
Tor is safe, if you arent attention whore, desu
Henry Wright
Hard time taking this at face value since VPN has many legit uses, and is the only way to securely access local resources that are not supposed to be exposed to the public.
Sebastian Jackson
Onionland has some cool books, some with relatively recent books available.
There is also the use of Tor to download from clearnet websites to hide your IP due to reasons such as a download limit, the website being restricted from outside the US because of copyright laws, and avoiding abuse claims from downloading from the website too much.
Owen Price
I used to believe tor project's claims but the more I look at what they do the less I believe what they say.
Christian Reyes
>heh
Charles Phillips
>enormous powers to FBI to be able to search computers remotely
What is this shit and how is it possible?
Jason Roberts
>tor is funded by us government >tor is safe pick one
Robert Cox
Again, nobody cares about that.
You think the FBI gives a shit about you downloading books and bypassing download limits?
Elijah Scott
It basically only allows them to knock on your door to seize your computer if they find you to be suspect. They can't enter through your computer over the web. Okay. But wtf is defined as anonymity software? That could be anything that denies them to search your computer in the first place? UBlock Origin? Peerblock? Yeah but doesn't that use TOR to operate? lol It just cuts off any network packets that aren't being sent through TOR.
Ethan Jenkins
Imperial Library of Trantor has a lot of good books as well.
Elijah Richardson
>Order a bag o' dragon dildos >Check "anonymous shipping" so mum don't sniff me out >FBI agents roundkick my door take me pee cee and shoot me in the knob
Cameron Myers
>(((Ginsburg))) >(((Breyer)))) >(((Kagan)))) >form the socialist wing of the Court
Forces you to contemplate, eh?
Parker Evans
Use the nearest tree.
Scum.
William Taylor
pizzahut.com is pretty good. pretty sure u can order straight from the
Josiah Miller
they would just intercept your package and keep the dragon dildos for themselves
Alexander Morales
Get Rand. He's gonna nuke it.
Ayden Nelson
Those rascals!
Connor Garcia
>seize any computer around the world sorry, the world isnt US territory
Wyatt Foster
You faggots realise FBI has no juristiction outside its own borders don't you?
Countries like China would look at this no differently as any other US state department doing operations within its borders.
Ryder Phillips
Thank God I live in a country hostile to USA. Unless tor connection is obfuscated which tor browser is capable of.
Carter Clark
I wish I was still naive enough to believe this. But I know better.
Jeremiah Butler
the question is that they will search on computers?
Michael Butler
>what*
Colton Brooks
>sorry, the world isnt US territory thats where you're wrong kiddo. Its Trump's America now.
Oliver Harris
Your dad and uncle are not going to mirror your opinion...
Adam Martin
it'z a global policy, you dont need to be american, try reading...
David Perez
Those Black Eyed Peas mp3s you download with Bearshare
Austin Jones
Nice logical fallacy.
What's next? Camera's in your bath and bedroom?
Ian Moore
What's the last CPU with no hardware backdoor?
Pentium III?
Julian Ramirez
Nope. Even that has a hardware backdoor.
You'd have to go Pentium 1 or less. Yeah, you're fucked.
Isaiah Scott
The best computer is the one you make your own from scratch. Do you have access to the materials and machines to make your own CPU?
Ayden Perez
PUMP IT
Ayden Reyes
Source? P3 doesn't have TPM
What's the backdoor?
Nathaniel Reed
>people didn't jump ship from TOR years ago
Serves you right
Oliver Foster
Port number
Chase Kelly
Blamp
Jace Moore
>he doesn't order drugs off the internet
Eli Green
nearly all of the people that get caught with pizza are the kind that are retardedly seeding their entire collection directly through Limewire, or they are some crazy sick fuck who runs pizza/drug rings and messes up and leaks personal info so they get caught
Andrew Ward
>They got DPR >they were running 23 pizza websites You can't actually believe this
Ryder Brown
yeah, and look who's president now. (You) think you're fucking safe? Fuck no, he doesn't give two shits about the rest of the world or how it operates. (You) think preemption was just for shits and giggles? Fuck no, they are expanding that shit.
Daniel Bennett
they can backtrace it if you goof
Justin Diaz
Sounds like fun.
Not really fair their hands have to be tied.
Justin Edwards
This, you're an idiot if you didn't have tails.
Leo Parker
>ISPs could give that information.
If you're using a VPN the ISP can't see what you're doing
Colton Collins
about, safe-ish.
if you're running the node.
and it's off-site.
:^)
Liam Flores
your ISP can tell if you're using it, but that's about it
depending on the amount of users, it's possible they can just occasionally audit ISPs and log every use that is using Tor or a VPN
Lucas Rivera
Everything AMD Intel went full botnet with the first gen i3/i5/i7 CPU
Carter Harris
VPN's can still snitch on you though
Jaxon Morales
This doesn't seem to include proxy-switching software though. I don't use Tor anyway.
Jaxson Gonzalez
even bios' are backdoored botnets these days though.
Chase Lewis
Planet Pizza :DD?
Jackson Rogers
OP says any computer in the world though. So even foreign ISPs would have to comply with the FBI. My countries government is full of cucks so I'm sure they'd bend over for the FBI. I wish I lived in Russia.
Ethan Bell
Hate to see government take anonymity away in any situation because its always a slippery slope, but tor/vpn is used 99% of the time for CP, drugs, shitposting, etc.. No real loss.