Really makes u think

Really makes u think

Health Care is a service, Owning a gun is property >_> two very different things.

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>implying I can walk into Wal-Mart and buy a gun for free with my government-issued Gun Stamps
>Implying a hospital will throw me out on the street if I'm not rich enough

One is an amendment the other isn't

Healthcare is already a right.

I kind of wish I could claim a portion of what I contribute to the military budget in taxes to buy firearms with though.

Where do I get all these free guns?

People own guns they purchase with their own money. They can do the same with healthcare. But what they want is government funded healthcare which would only work in their analogy if the government was buying guns for everyone. Everyone has the same right to purchase healthcare that has the right to purchase a gun.

Healthcare is a human right

Gun rights are only used to kill people thus evoking the need for healthcare

You still have to pay for the gun..

Ability to own a gun is a right.
Ability to own health insurance is also a right.

Fucking liberals with their deceptive words.

The ability to buy and deal with guns for non felons is a right.

There is no right to 'free' service. Only the right to receiving it.

>Healthcare is a human right
Human rights are a spook.

>healthcare is a human right

I don't remember cavemen hunting Stegosauri with Obamacare.

Show me where in the Constitution, the document the country is based upon, that says healthcare is a right.

Ahhh the return of bush era shit tier memes from the left

liberals are morons

>burger$
>with the brain function required to think
>implying

Yes you can't be denied it if you need it.

That doesn't mean it's free.

Health care cannot be a right because it requires someone else to perform the service.

Owning a gun is a privilege until you commit crimes. It's not a right.

In California, you couldn't own guns if you had marijuana possession offenses.

There's something seriously wrong with a country that thinks owning a gun is a privilege but healthcare is a right.

Its not the country its the people within them that makes you want one just watch cops

>Healthcare is a human right

LEAF

A human right is a social construct based on what those calling it a human right desire. A constitutional right is a concrete agreement that is defined literally to be defended by a government. If you want a right to healthcare provided by a government, make it a constitutional right. Human rights are arbitrary with no concrete basis of agreement in widespread society.

Nonsense.

I use my guns to kill all sorts of animals.

>Health Care is a human right so Guns shouldn't be an American Constitution right.

Look if we have to pay to patch people up after they get shot then shit is gonna get real expensive real fast. Letting victims die with dignity saves money and protects our god given right to bear arms.

>op right now

>Owning a gun is a privilege

wrong.

being able to defend your life is a right that all humans are born with, endowed by their creator.

since, in this world, one can take your life with a gun (because guns exist), you have the right to reciprocate.

Name one country that has free healthcare and has gun control that isn't cucked.
Go ahead. I'll wait.

>healthcare involves resources and people doing things for you

>owning a gun involves having a thing you bought

how are these two things not the same.

healthcare IS NOT a right.

owning a gun, IS.

The cucking comes after they take your guns.

Actualy it's the opposite, fucktard. You can't get a gun for free, you have to pay for it. And in most cases you have to go through background checks and sign stuff. So you in some cases have the right to buy a gun.
Healthcare, however, is treated as a right. If you are in need of serious medical treatment, doctors will help you even if you have no money or insurance.

Now fuck off you fucktarded leaf cunt.

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Our country was founded by hunters with muskets not doctors with scalpels.

Get fucked, Leaf. Only Commies get free healthcare, a bullet.

>Really makes u think
Healthcare must be provided by another, ergo it can never be a right as i have no right to anyones time or labor.

>Really makes u think
Not very hard, sage

If you get a misdemeanor or felony of certain crimes you are no longer able to own a gun. Are you even American?

Healthcare is a right. Getting other people to pay for it is not. Owning a gun is a right. Getting a free gun is not.

Anyone that smokes marijuana or convicted for possession in California cannot legally buy a gun. It's on the questionnaire when you fill out the background check. The last time I bought one, I just said no.

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Oh I love when foreigners try to tell us what our "rights" are.

Good thing rake ownership is a fundamental human right.

There are zero rights that require effort by others

Guns aren't free.

Is there any logical reason why ownership of assault weapons is protected by law in the US?

>inb4 second amendment

I want to hear practical reasons why the average American civilian has their life, family or welfare improved by having the right to own a gun that fires a round every time they pull the trigger? And also - why the average Australian or European or resident of any other Western nation has reduced quality of life because we are not allowed by law to own such weapons?

guns don't cost that much.

>assault weapons
So semi-auto is now assault to you leaves? Does everything need to be a blunderbuss for you assholes to be okay with it?

Really makes you sage

You have the right to protect yourself
You don't have a right to make others give you goods and services for free.


It's so simple a leaf could comprehend it.

Assault weapons are by definition semi-automatic.

You have to pay to get either

>Gun rights are only used to kill people thus evoking the need for healthcare

0/10

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>i'll make you pay for my bad habits but don't you dare protect yourself or own property if i don't approve of it!

oh yeah, my neurons are a'firin'

A CRUNCHY STAR FLOWER

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For lefties, maybe.
Assault rifles and the likes are select fire with full auto capability.
What do you think AR stands for, I'm curious.

Armalite Rifle?
With selective fire between safe and semi-automatic, and not full auto?

Are you illiterate? I said assault weapons, not assault rifles. The term "assault weapon" has a very clearly defined and unambiguous definition.

Assault weapons are:

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
>Folding or telescoping stock
>Pistol grip
>Bayonet mount
>Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
>Grenade launcher mount

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
>Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
>Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
>Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
>Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
>A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
>Folding or telescoping stock
>Pistol grip
>Detachable magazine

>having the ability to have healthcare if you can afford it is a right
>having the ability to own a gun if you can afford it is a right

Guns are not an entitlement. Healthcare is not an entitlement. But the government isn't supposed to restrict you from having either if it's something you pursue.

If someone starts saying "all citizens are entitled to own a taxpayer-funded firearm" (like they are doing with cellphones) then your Canadian shitpost would begin to make some kind of sense.

Until then, get FUCKED, NIGGER.

"assault rifle" means select fire, intermediate cartridge rifle

"assault weapon" is some dumbass made up term conjured up from thin air by people who don't know their ass from their ankle when it comes to firearms

>Flag
>Leaf

Truly behind every shitpost.

Healthcare being a right and gun ownership aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, if one considers Healthcare a right that must be protected by a liberal democracy; you always create the conditions that make the second amendment necessary.

The 2nd amendment shouldn't be thought of as a right to weapons. It is the right to resist a government that becomes tyrannical. Guns are the tool to do this. Only if there is no potential for a state to become tyrannical does this right not have to be explicit. The only state with no potential to become tyrannical is one so weak that it's laws and taxes are purely voluntary.

A state which is required to provide healthcare is an incredibly strong state due to the number of regulations and taxes that must be enforced. Ergo, a liberal democracy that considers a healthcare a right carries the tacit requirement of a right to bear arms.

>the right to be secure in your person and property
vs
>the right to force someone else to treat your illnesses

Makes me think I'm glad I'm not in Canada....

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>Healthcare is a human right
Of course it is. You also have the right to pay for that healthcare, if you want it.

>implying there are laws banning healthcare
>implying anyone (includaing felons and mentaly ill) can't buy assault healthcare without background cheeks