There isn't a single intelligent criticism of Basic Income

There isn't a single intelligent criticism of Basic Income

no

Most people would literally just sit at home and jack off all day

US welfare budget?
Number of US citizens?
A/B=...?

you increase that and pay for it with a healthy tax on the wealthy hoarders and automation takes care of the production of goods and services, before you predictably go there

Who needs basic income for that?

There are plenty of intelligent criticisms of it.

But we both know you'll ignore all of them and cherry pick only the ones you think you can defeat and spend the rest of the thread doing a victory lap like you did the last three times you made this exact same thread.

Properly implemented, basic income is pretty redpilled. The process abolishes all welfare, food stamps, social security, medicaid, etc. Whites would actually breed far more under a UBI system.

If we had crazy robots then yes, but until then you can fuck off retard

its called inflation

Make it require you to have a job. If you are unemployed required to join some kind of reemployment program or a program to join another job force. Only people not working should be the disabled, retired and not of working age. Simple remedies to make sure neetfags don't just collect bux.

Alright, let's assume that's true. So what? Who needs them? Let them slowly kill themselves in their homes while society advances without them.

It's just like universal healthcare, yeah, there are some people who will take advantage of the system and be unhealthy fuckers, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't implement it so that people who deserve it can benefit from it.

Basic income is not possible until the majority of jobs will be automated. People will choose to sit on their asses rather than work. And if that happens the economy goes down the shitter.

It's a nice idea, but only after Skynet will do our jobs

>so what if people drill holes in the bottom of our ship? Everyone else can enjoy the boat ride

That's just fucking communism then you idiot

Basic Income should not be implemented until robots can do all our jobs, only after that does my argument apply. Use your heads.

People's basic personalities don't change just because of the financial situation they're in. If a person can't find ways to improve their situation because they're having money trouble, they're not going to suddenly become efficient self-motivated people just because they have more money.

Kek makes it Clear; the people who can do basic math are correct.

Any real criticism besides some autistic McArthy shouting?

Not with a (((central bank))) and no effort.

So let me get this cleared up.
YOUR SOLUTION IS FASCISM?
A socialist government who rules your every day life via forced work...

FUCK YOU!

>everybody gets Xamount of money
>two months later all rent rises by Xamount of money

there

Basic income can only work if we kill all fat people as the first step.

Those 4 things on the right are all achievable with money, retard.

I'd argue that it would encourage the less intelligent to breed more and further the idiocracy.

That's what i've seen here in England and our benefit system. The only people I know my age with children are morons and not a single one of my intelligent friends has a child.

>can't even spell McCarthy
>desperately proxyfagging to create the illusion that you have support
Fuck off, /leftypol/
Sage

Found the autism bux collector.

fpbp

>dude what the fuck is inflation
>what do you mean somebody's gotta pay for that
>just print more money nigga

Nigger I work for a living I don't have time to spell check everything.

>Still no legitimate criticism.

>rent
>not owning real estate

>Italy

Is there even currency in Italy?

Can you explain to me how inflation negatively effects basic income? Genuinely interested

So you want more government spending? Well ism't this solution for literally any problem? Increase budget and throw money on the problem. It works every time.

>Properly implemented, basic income is pretty redpilled.
What is the projected budget of "properly implemented UBI"?

Can confirm.

Start with

If you own real estate why would you receive welfare?

>Russian flag

Putin pls

The desire for self improvement, meeting new people, enjoying yourself, and helping your community don't just get larger just because you're guaranteed a paycheck. Ask someone on Welfare if they're enjoying any of those liberties. You'd be surprised.

>Being able to afford to purchase property on basic income

>tfw you pull yourself out of NEETdom and become a normie with a peer group, goals, social network, but you miss being NEET

There are thousands, but I'll summarize the first seven.

1) Money has to come from somewhere: somebody is paying for it.
2) Factually it makes the population strongly dependent on goverment (even more so than now), thus very easily controllable in everything else. Squashing dissent leaders becomes easier.
3) Hugely reduces the incentives for working (in general). Especially risky in young people.
4) Hugely reduces the incentives for engaging in productive small-scale enterprises. If your work does not bear fruition or does not sell well, you can keep doing it. Indeed the state is subsidizing every freelancer / family business. This is terrible in terms of efficiency and productivity.
5) Greatly increases central planning and reduces decentralization, with the obvious nefarious aspects.
6) Strongly exposes the majority of the population to monetary fluctuation risks (e.g: inflation bursts). Even worse, UBI could be combined with a push towards cashless society (much easy to do, since the govt controls this main income source for a huge part of the citizens), making the population vulnerable to even more central banks mischief. For instance, suppose the govt now wants to increase inflation: they can say that you have at most 2 months to spend your UBI check...
7) Greatly encourages economic immigrants (aka: "refugees").

Earn your money or drown in your own inadequacy you degenerate NEET filth.

Fixed. Because 'bread and circuses' ended up so well

why would anybody get up at 5am to clean toilets, or some other shitty job, when they are already getting basic income?

plenty of people would take the money and not do jack to put back into society.

Russianbro summarizes it quite well

what do you do when someone refuses to work
would the basic income system really be willing to just let someone starve for not working
if so, how is it more caring/ compassionate than what we have right now where we don't just let people die

I don't get how that's related to inflation, unless the government is printing money to pay for for the basic income.
Isn't basic income meant to be implemented after large scale automation occurs? GDP remains the same (or increases), but instead of people working and receiving income from their employer for the goods/services they produce, robots are producing goods/services and they're redistributed via taxes and welfare.

Free market? Cleaning toilets pays $3000/month on top of UBI which is $250/month?

I would argue that the other areas become smaller because you're focused so much on yourself with all the 'free time' you have.

>unless the government is printing money to pay for for the basic income.
What easily could be the case. Seriously when talking about UBI start with budget first. Everything else should be second.

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We trade in either bullets or eurobux IOUs

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Right now even if some people work they can't afford to actually gather wealth because they end up living pay check to pay check and since they work they don't qualify for many welfare services. Provide a floor for income and you can ensure that welfare is actually helping people get out of their situation not just become dependent on it.

People are retards.

Hey i just came up with legitimate criticism for literally every school of political thought ever. Huzzah!

Any country that will apply basic income will stagnate and then completely fuck itself outside of basic income in a couple of generations.

You can't strip people of responsibility and expect them to act like, well, normal people.

Modern left is the best example for that. Coddle your kids hard enough and they won't be able to reject all the though cancers teenagers go trough. Marxism, globalism, anarchism, you name it.

I mean fuck, look at Sweden and they are merely a welfare state. Not a country with a basic income.

I'd never work if I didn't have to.

I don't understand how you can say that, I love working, I just wish I could work on the things I wanted to, basic income would allow that, but not before robots do all our jobs.

That is some low quality bait son.

This is fucking stupid
>do what i do and have a full job whilst living off your parents
>make them pay for everything cus theyre beta. your food, and for them to drive you places
>Literally put 90% of your earnings into bank account
>keep the 10% for buying weed and gum
>Work at a place for two years. Work a better place for a year, work at an even better place for a year, and then work at a better place for the following year after. You should have a minimum of £95k if you have a brain.

Read about news, and use Brexit when considering what to invest. A good invester could have possible of anywhere from £100k to £400k, providing he used the stock market to its fullest potential.

**ProTip - If you've never worked before, I recommend making up some nonsense like I did. I said I worked for my uncle's company abroad. Even if they did want to check it up (which is unlikely), my cousin could've lie for me.

I'm going for a minimum of £1.8m in 8 years.
Started off bankrupt and in debt with student loan. Had about £10 left to spend.

In 3 and a half years, I've made £300k while living in my parents basement and not spending money on anything other than haircuts, weed, and gum.
With Brexit on the way, the markets are going to be going wild.

I'm also blogging it all too. I'll release the vids when I've reached my goal in a few years, but I pretty much have been making a "From Lower to Upper Class" guide.

Would probably be a best seller if I wrote it as a book, but there would just be a bunch of greentext inside.
>this is what happens when my gf dumps me

Really saving time by not correcting your spelling. I assume you just don't know how to spell McCarthy and we're trying to save face. I assume because you're name is Pablo and you live with your mom in LA who's a beautiful welfare queen that takes BBC up the ass while you cry about how you can't get any women on your tiny Mexican chode

Most people love things that they can't earn money from.
90% of all young adults would become "professional" Lets players.

>Read the news before investing
No shit retard.

I dont see your money, you stupid chink

Not meming here
We already have basic income- its called dividends. Skip on some luxuries for a year or two and work your ass off tto be able to afford a small nest egg that will only grow

We already give it to niggers.

Protip: they nig out.

The "universal" part of UBI. Also, why not? If you can get welfare, you damn well should, all other things being equal.

Jak dają, to brać.

>self-improvement
alcoholism and tv

Apparently it takes away a large reason to work. This picture is implying because the big red part is removed the other sections grow in size. But that doesn't make sense. Without the big red thing you wouldn't suddenly put more effort into self improvement through work.

The size of the reason wouldn't change. Shit picture 0/10

Look the average basic income supporter is

A) a reddit user and lefty liberal

B ) enjoys video games and television

C) has a "hobby" like drawing or game design

D) is middle class or comortable

E) has a shit career or still in college


Essentially the average basic income supporter is not only selfish but also in a bubble. They dont have proper real world experience and live in echo chambers. They believe that the average joe also loves science and "enriching themselves" they naively believe that if everyone has BI people would sit around coding and sculpting or reading. They also see no benefit to hard work because theyve never experienced success or the fruits of labour nor have they strived for better things in life because they have had there needs provided to them previously.

Very few people would choose to not work under a universal basic income if it were implemented right.

If everybody, regardless of income, gets $10,000 people are going to continue working so that they can live a more comfortable lifestyle.

The only way people will stop working under any welfare system is if that system encourages unemployment by taking away their benefits if they get a job.

This desu

Only fake economists think they can predict inflation.

>what is overspeculation

You mean aside from the impractically large cost of implementing it?

A hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

What fucking world do you live in where cleaning toilets pays $3000 a month?

You know why it pays low money now? Because you don't need to have any skills to do it, and because the company doesn't want to pay high wages for no-skill work. Any idiot can do it.

So after basic income, suddenly that company can afford to pay someone a much, much higher wage? And where does that money come from? A company who used to pay someone $7/hr to clean toilets is now busting out nearly $20/hr (for full time work) on the same thing? Why are they doing that?

If I had basic income I would sit on my ass all day

I've been using that idea for years. It fits everything!

War? Retards.
Famine? Retards.
Wealth inequality? Retards...

Lol OP BTFO

>employer would shell out $3000/month on top of added taxes for UBI for toilet cleaning

>250,000,000 x $10,000 per annum for basic income

lmao

I work out very hard most days and dabble in a few things electronics/gardening/yoga ect. But in between, it's a LOT of jerking off trying to chat up girls online.

I'll pass.

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We could give basic income for >100 IQ people kek. I know it's dishonest but I like the idea.

People with decent IQ can get a job anyway.

Not everyone is like you, Shlomo.

Name of the blog m8? i'm in literally the exact same position, sponging off parents while woking a low-tier job