Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
Stop linking the manifesto you fucking moron it does more harm than good. The manifesto is fucking shit.
Tyler Baker
Communist trash should be shot without trial. Commies are social niggers.
Thomas Wilson
REALLY MAKES ME THINK
Adrian Fisher
Nobody here is from reddit
If anything, Sup Forums is filled with /r/The_Donald shills
Joshua Myers
Okay leftypol
Joseph Robinson
Gas the capitalist class!
Asher Long
Nazis hate capitalists too.
Wyatt Thompson
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Brody Rogers
Fuck off
Landon Flores
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Leo Rodriguez
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James Cooper
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Jeremiah Hernandez
I have a few questions about marxism perhaps one of you /leftypol/ types can explain it to me >of each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need You do realize this line of rhetoric, actually presents a MASSiVE logistical problem, right?
once you gulag all the evil rich people these massive logistical problems don't t magically take care of themselves (poor people are selfish jackasses too) It would take an army of bureaucrats to delegate all goods and services if the free market was abolished For this reason any rhetoric that says 'end stage marxism is close to anarchist' just turns many people off
I am not sure if you are being dishonest with yourselves, being dishonest with us, or just genuinely stupid.
surely some of you must know that this sort of 'end stage marxism' isn't possible if your real endgame is controlled economies run by bureaucrats (not necessarily a bad thing), you should just be open with it, and stay away from the anCom rhetoric
Isaiah Peterson
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Leo Perez
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William Perez
To bad you don't get a safe space
Jonathan Martinez
too bad you are a nigger
Luis Sullivan
WE NAZBOL GANG NOW
Owen Turner
Is it not conceivable at all that maybe some people on Sup Forums hold left-wing views?
Joshua Flores
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Austin Roberts
How many times does your retarded Marxist system have to fail before you realize Marx' theories have a fundamental flaw in them that make them inefficient?
Levi Edwards
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Thomas Cox
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Mason King
Not since 2008 lel
Jack Carter
Just use the people that work in supermarkets.....
Matthew Sanders
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Cooper Jackson
People still believe this shit? LOL
Jack Bell
Where did all these Nazis come from? Sup Forums was always communist!
Liam Hill
Is it not conceivable at all that maybe you on Sup Forums are shilling?
Isaiah Hughes
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Wyatt Fisher
Hitler is our hero, deal with it.
Noah Green
>2016 >being a stalinist
Gabriel Lopez
/mlg/ is a psyop from r e d d i t. Check the sub "r/agitationcommittee" they are trying to subvert pol and move it to the left.
Carson Perez
Not really crocodile Dundee
Aaron Sullivan
Our commies have the lowest energy, dont they folks?? DONT FEED THE EDDIT TROLL
Cooper Jackson
Kill yourself
Colton Sullivan
>LOL And people say neo-Sup Forums isn't just leftover reddit and stormfront raiders
Brayden Jones
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Daniel Roberts
is this bait, I don't even know
Noah Allen
>Tfw leftists don't understand that there is a third way aside from Judaeo-Communism and Judaeo-Capitalism
Henry Kelly
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Joseph Cruz
Okay nigger
Daniel Gonzalez
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Jordan Martinez
Yes it is You fuck off to places like reddit and /leftypol/ and then when you perceive Sup Forums as having some power and influence you come back in a raid Generals are also cancer unless it is about a happening This is just as boring as the christian general No one is going to be convinced of anything especially the level of discourse this general has displayed
Brody Ross
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Brody Ward
"Marxism Leninism" is outdated eurocentric garbage. White people can literally never be socialists. Third Worldism is the only way forward.
Are Marxist-Leninists at peace with the fact that the whole doctrine of redistribution mandates a bureaucratic commissar class, that is in practice more elite and more oppressive than even the donor class of a corporatist society?
Bentley Jenkins
>2016 >not being a "stalinist"(marxist-leninist).
Logan Phillips
Spamin time
Adam James
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David Baker
Fucking off years ago because of a sustained raid that forever altered Sup Forums isn't the same as being raiders though, if we come back. We're coming home. Make Sup Forums nihilist-anarchist again.
Benjamin Rogers
Are Marxist-Leninists at peace with the fact that the whole doctrine of redistribution mandates a bureaucratic commissar class, that is in practice more elite and more oppressive than even the donor class of a corporatist society? I know /leftypol/ in general doesn't quite understand this, but I haven't heard much from Marxist-Leninists in general.
Joseph Roberts
Fuck you and your shitty communist generals
SAGE AND DIE
Jaxon Rivera
It's serious, the people who best deal with logistics are the ones that have experience. And they're workers not capitalists, so it's OK
Caleb Lee
Get the fuck off this board commie scum.
Tyler Cox
They also hate commies
Nicholas Fisher
What happened to /left/ general btw? /mlg/ is too specific
Lucas Sanders
You fuckers can't even figure out that a sea creature needs water, you think anyone would trust you with economics and social reform?
Bentley Taylor
>Sup Forums >power and influence >this is what Sup Forums believes
I'm just here to discuss politics
Jeremiah Wilson
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Hunter Kelly
Go back to smoking crack and begging for money in the street... along with the rest of BLM and occupy failstreet.
Kayden Powell
The problem that unsuccessful political entities always suffer from. They blame part of themselves and splinter into tinier shittier groups.
Ryder Parker
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Charles Phillips
>Make Sup Forums nihilist-anarchist again. >In a marxist leninist general The stupidity hurts no wonder you fucked off and yes you are raiders
Dominic Bell
I have some futurist commie leanings. but
>actually unironically being a Marxist-Leninist >actually unironically endorsing political theories which have been proven to be failures upwards of a dozen times on the international stage
explain to me how the withering away of the state works, please.
bear in mind that your explanation must also account for the fact that dozens of socialist revolutions have successfully been completed, none of them resulted in the withering away of the state, almost all of them resulted in totalitarian dictatorships,and the remaining few ceased to exist in very short time.
Nolan Harris
I was just reading a book that included a description of cargo cults, and made THIS general observation from that.
Cargo cults resulted from a very close and shrewd observations by natives of the islands that became air bases in the Pacific during World War II.
And even I, an Evil Racist if ever there was one, do not laugh at them the way more “sophisticated” observers do. They saw what they saw, and they acted on it. photo thatcher.jpg
The islanders had almost no knowledge of these strangers who came FLYING into their land.
So the natives did what the most advanced scientist would do:
They observed the strangers’ activities very carefully and tried to learn from it.
The whites called all those riches “cargo,” and their aim was to get cargo of their own.
Their first observation, AND IT WAS PERFECTLY ACCURATE — was that the outsiders did not PRODUCE a single bit of all that “cargo” that kept flooding in.
And they were dead accurate.
So how DID the strangers get all that precious “cargo?”
First of all, as the natives ACCURATELY noted, the strangers did not PRODUCE any of it.
So the natives who wanted “cargo” did what the people who actually GOT the cargo did.
They put things that looked like earphones in their ears.
They cleared landing areas for the mysterious flying machine to land in.
They put up strings leading to the earphones.
And they waited.
In real history, when Lenin’s Bolsheviks took over Russia, they did exactly the same basic thing: They set up offices and sent people out to redistribute the cargo, which we call production. And they were astonished to find that there wasn’t any production.
This is where Marxism starts out. A far as they can tell things are produced and they just need to distribute it.
This is insane. It is insane but it is also Marxism.
The Marxism system collapsed because it never learnt to produce anything.
Alexander King
This was anarchist territory before you stormfront niggers made fucking bots to raid it like a bunch of tryhards. Anarchist Sup Forums's coming back.
I am going back home. This is it.
Nazis are by all accounts, moralfags.
Noah Sullivan
You realize these people are mostly shitposting right? Hillary is largely disliked among left-wing Sup Forumsacks by the way.
Adam Martin
>Marxism Leninism General NOT ON MY WATCH YA COMMIE TRASH
David Cox
you are literally the cancer of society
i'm glad your ideology will never again be taken seriously
Hunter Evans
there arent shills on r/The_Donald, they may be retarded but noones getting paid like you CTR faggots
Noah Martin
>Marxism-Leninism >ideology >ism
That's pretty spooky, user.
Jason Martinez
>minimum wage rosita has the skills and intelligence to make sure her community does not starve to death
Owen Rodriguez
So why come here? What for?
Zachary Morris
No, this is my home. You are the outsider, you are the invader, the stormfront faggots are the immigrants who came here after.
Moralfags used to be denounced, not got their dicks sucked cause muh precious lil baby feelings and "right" and "wrong"
Nicholas Miller
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Nathan Sanders
>being an anarkidie or trot Don't do this famlan.
Cooper Wright
>playing AdVenture Capitalist kek
Blake Nelson
When it has been terrible for a century yeah why would you be you idiot posting jew politics.
Cooper Watson
Sup Forums has never been a leftist board there is a reason why its called politically incorrect
/new/ was also not a leftist board
Joshua Powell
I'm glad Sup Forums isn't an alt-right safespace anymore.
Jace Lewis
You have to go back.
Mason Nguyen
>tankies >politically motivated marxists at all
Cooper Myers
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Landon Mitchell
Every time someone tries to subvert Sup Forums and steer the popular opinion towards their own ideology, be it JIDF, CTR or marxists, something extraordinary happens every single time.
Instead of being steered in the direction that the hostile party wants, they do the exact opposite. They become more extreme.
JIDF spawned anti-semitism in people who otherwise did not care about Jews. CTR spawned anti-Hillary/pro-Trump people who otherwise did not care about US politics.
And this will spawn even more extreme right-wingers.
They are only feeding the monster and making it stronger. Manlets, when the fuck will they learn?
Christian Wilson
latin americans telling eastern europeans why communism could/should work
while being on fire due to commie inept policies, while convivially blaming everything but themselves for this shit not working
tl;dr: fuck off and die
Adrian Cruz
It's not like she does it every day- oh wait
Because I like spreading the word to the working class
David Morris
All leftists must die
Ayden Kelly
How does statism have worked for latin america? Really showed those capitalists that they can't profit from the land of our indigenous ancestors eh? Showed them that we don't need a growing economy to fulfill our needs eh? Showed them that workers needs to be protected from evil corporations by being owned by the biggest corporation A.K.A the State. eh ? * Sarcasm off* To ever lasting hell with communism
Bentley Anderson
What are you talking about you idiot?
Matthew Morgan
>people say
Who? Your leaf weeb commie gathering at the greasy spoon every Tuesday? Fuck off and get a job.
Kayden Watson
Sup Forums was always in practice against the moralfaggotry you refugees vomit everywhere. Very black flag anarchist, we did all leave eventually though, many years into Sup Forums's life, this is why piracy went from being cool and good, to some evil against the great god "the publisher"
Adrian Morris
How is being Left Wing considered being politically incorrect?
Brayden Cooper
Said in a leftist containment area that is currently being raided by the alt-right.
