/left/ General

Greetings Comrades

This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

3 minute intro to Marxism: youtube.com/watch?v=Vz3eOb6Yl1s

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

8ch
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Why aren't these troll threads banned?

Reporting.

Down with the capitalist system.

We'll spam and sage this one too lmao

Cause the discussion of any political ideology is prohibited. I think that MLs, should shut the fuck up
This 3 minute entry video is total bullshit, I hate le science channels like Wisecrack or School of Life. I would rather suggest to put as entry the ABCs of Socialism of Jacobin mag as it clears some shit out.

Sup Forums isn't right or left, its a board of peace for discussion

If you didn't know that, well, then you have to go back:

And we will open the new one, just waste your time and posts.

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LEFTYPOL FUCK OFF WE KNOW IT'S YOU

DAILY REMINDER THIS IS THE WORK OF LEFTYPOL KIKES

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>japanese communism
We know how that turned out now don't we.

Thank fuck marxism never took hold in Japan.

Anime and Japan kill marxists.

>Sup Forums isn't right or left, its a board of peace for discussion

No, it's a neo-nazi echochamber. I think you're the one who needs to go back.

Thread-ly reminder that if the left is to win, and secure the white working class, we all need to get on board with syndicalism.

Enough for the social issues. Enough with the wedge issues. They'll come another time.

We. all. work. It's all we care about.

Syndicalists will bring prominence to the left.

No rules have been broken. This is the politics board, we're allowed to discuss politics

I'll check it out, also open to people suggesting other links to put in the OP to make it more encompassing of other ideologies

I actually did hear about these threads on, and come here from /leftypol/.

But why do you care?

Your efforts are futile.

Thankfully many potential commies will see how retarded marxism is as you make these threads.

Enjoy your pseudoscience.

W-we know i-it's you, leftyp-pol!!
Stop spreading c-class consciousness! OINK this isn't politically incorrect of you!

bye leftypol, stop trying to subvert us

Why don't you go back to your containment board on 4+2+2 chan you lonely virgin?

Because as much as I hate pinko scum, this isn't reddit and we shouldnt silence the retards who seems to be staying in their own threads. Are we the last bastion of free speech or are we the same shit with a different name? don't forget to sage and actually point out their retardation, but it hasnt done anything to be banned yet even if it is a shitty raid.

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Except by being like the third largest party in Japan.

Not to mention the guy Yamaguchi killed wasn't even in a communist party.

>le evil capitalist man meme
Whoa boys watch out we got a memer over here.

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>literal plebbit commies astroturfing on Sup Forums

nice shitpost leftyfag

Hello, this is leftypol here.
>let me just reply to whole political ideology with this 320 KB.
Be happy that we can't attach pdfs here.

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You've got a long uphill battle to fight, shill
Have a bump

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Go back to cripple chan you leaf fag

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>he doesn't understand a worker can never receive the full value of what he himself produces

no they're actually from /leftypol/ on eight chan but that site is pretty much leddit anyways

Yes, old people die as you may have known.
If KEK is true, then Jill Stein wins in 2020 and bans anime.
Have fun.

Didn't work last thread, won't work this thread.

History is cyclical, not linear
After Capitalism comes Traditionalism again

Stop appropriating logos like the rats you are, now fuck off dirty commies.

Didn't you learn from the last raid you guys got /leftypol/? You're not making this place into a liberal hellhole. You're a small minority AT THAT. Your kind isn't welcomed here

Get the fuck out commies this aint your board

>3rd biggest
lmao no

and they're not even real communist lol

Communism will never take hold in Japan, Japan is too awesome for that.

Lel. Say it with me lads:

Helicopter rides are too merciful for the communist scum.

Looks like someone didn't like that shitpost very much.

>tfw the USSR put a halt to this madness.
>tfw some leftists are still retarded enough to think the Hungarian revolution was anything positive.

So how many of you left wingers are over the age of 21 and have a full time job?

>he doesn't understand that the worker doesn't deserve the full value of what he produces, because he didn't create the means to produce it

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Aside from /leftypol/, everyone else is 8/pol/, Sup Forums is just /vpol/, even the porn boards are Sup Forums.
I don't know how the board hasn't been deleted.

WOW BRO
YOU REBEL
YOU GO GIRL

>full value

This would make sense but it's wrong.

Lets say you took every single penny from the capitalist class and divided it among the "working class", every single worker would have maybe 1000 dollars. WOW big fucking deal.
Not only that but when the working class went to go spend that money prices would rise because there are no new consumer goods being produced to justify that new spending.

Something like 99% of CONSUMER GOODS in the economy are consumed and owned by the working class, not the capitalist class.

The capitalist class have NOTHING for you, they're not exploiting you, they couldn't have been "stealing" anything from you in the first place.

Daily reminder to kill commies

Leftists are subhuman and deserve to be exterminated

me

>Sup Forums isn't right or left, its a board of peace for discussion

Yeah, except when I make an anti-communist thread on /leftypol/ or your subreddits, I get banned for 6 months.

You guys are claiming the moral high ground when your home board is like Pravda.

There are only two ways to deal with communists, bullets and shitposting/sage'ing.

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I find it funny that, despite getting raided by us nonstop, despite knowing that they don't have enough mods to stop us, and despite the fact that they're even admitting it's getting out of control, they still do it.

Face it /leftypol/, we run this place. Your not welcomed here

>It polled 11.3% of the vote in 2000, 8.2% in 2003, 7.3% in 2005, 7.0% in the August 2009 election and 6.2% in 2012.

Ruh Row

It's mostly the edgy teenagers at /r/socialism

>and they're not even real communist lol
Personally I would agree that the Japanese communist party is never going to accomplish anything.

But I wouldn't say they're not communist. They're just leftcom retards, like most communist parties in the developed world.

Fuck leftypol.
Admins are fucking retards. I just want to read my Bordiga writings.
nice meme my man.

>Greetings Comrades

Here's a sexy picture of a son of a Canadian cucked by Castro for you to pleasure yourself to, leaf.

>I don't trust myself to live my life so I need an overbearing government to make all my choices for me
Every leftist ever.

Me.

Obligatory pic and sage

>le ebic ebul capitalist man

You cultists are hilariously pathetic.

threadly reminder to sage

Socialism will never take form anywhere, it's a self defeating ideology that always continuing itself by saying
>bbbut that was never real socialism

Communism is shit fuck you all

You have to go back.

>he doesn't understand that workers also produced the means to produce it

Reminder that the only good commie is a dead commie.

forgot pic sage

That Jill post was QUOTING another user, calling them retarded.

How dumb are leftists? holy shit

>TFW we hanged half of the Jewish-communist ÁVO before the red army came
>TFW the Western Marxists could no longer fool gulliable idiots into believing that communism is peaceful or democratic, all thanks to our revolution, and the Soviet's reaction to it

Totally worth it, 10/10 would do it again.

Most of the issue has been outsiders attacking it when it does work.

>You guys are claiming the moral high ground when your home board is like Pravda.

Is anybody still suprised by this?

I mean, that's the standard modus operandi of the left since 1789.

It is told of Rothschild that, seeing his fortune threatened by the Revolution of 1848, he hit upon the following stratagem: “I am quite willing to admit,” said he, “that my fortune has been accumulated at the expense of others, but if it were divided to-morrow among the millions of Europe, the share of each would only amount to five shillings. Very well, then, I undertake to render to each his five shillings if he asks me for it.”

Having given due publicity to his promise, our millionaire proceeded as usual to stroll quietly through the streets of Frankfort. Three or four passers-by asked for their five shillings, which he disbursed with a sardonic smile. His stratagem succeeded, and the family of the millionaire is still in possession of its wealth.

It is in much the same fashion that the shrewd heads among the middle classes reason when they say, “Ah, Expropriation! I know what that means. You take all the overcoats and lay them in a heap, and every one is free to help himself and fight for the best.”

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The capitalist system is the only reason you're able to live a life with a high quality of living

But such jests are irrelevant as well as flippant. What we want is not a redistribution of overcoats, although it must be said that even in such a case, the shivering folk would see advantage in it. Nor do we want to divide up the wealth of the Rothschilds. What we do want is so to arrange things that every human being born into the world shall be ensured the opportunity in the first instance of learning some useful occupation, and of becoming skilled in it; next, that he shall be free to work at his trade without asking leave of master or owner, and without handing over to landlord or capitalist the lion’s share of what he produces. As to the wealth held by the Rothschilds or the Vanderbilts, it will serve us to organize our system of communal production.

The day when the labourer may till the ground without paying away half of what he produces, the day when the machines necessary to prepare the soil for rich harvests are at the free disposal of the cultivators, the day when the worker in the factory produces for the community and not the monopolist — that day will see the workers clothed and fed, and there will be no more Rothschilds or other exploiters.

No one will then have to sell his working power for a wage that only represents a fraction of what he produces.

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DON'T WORRY, THEY STARTED OFF STRONG LAST THREAD TOO

WAGE KEKS WILL ALWAYS BE BTFO IN THE END

BOOTLICKERS ALWAYS KILLED

KEKS ALWAYS SENT BACK TO THEIR MASTURBATION PITS

ONLY GOOD CAT IS A SKINNED ONE

>we
>you
you suck at shilling

Why the sudden surge, though?

Are you butthurt about Trump winning and nationalist parties gaining more power in Europe?

Are you jelly that Sup Forums is able to get CNN and NBC to do special reports on the dangers of Nazi Pepes; whereas nobody who isn't an autistic channer even knows your boards exist?

That is actually the fault of the industrial revolution and countless hours of labour performed by the workers who built, transported, and even sold, all of our luxuries and necessities.

So what's the story of the ice pick, was it symbolic or something?

>Have pretty much an openly fascist uprising
>USSR restores order.
>Somehow this makes the USSR the bad guy.

reporting in

seeand

Sup Forums is, has been and always will be a National Socialist board.

Hail victory.

Death to bolsheviks.

>been tried a million times
>can't even defend itself from outside attackers
lmao

>What we do want is so to arrange things that every human being born into the world shall be ensured the opportunity in the first instance of learning some useful occupation, and of becoming skilled in it; next, that he shall be free to work at his trade without asking leave of master or owner, and without handing over to landlord or capitalist the lion’s share of what he produces.
You can literally do that now.

We were talking about exploitation. The capitalists are not taking anything from you.

Why the sudden surge in leftpol of nazi retards shitting the thread up?

Do you happen to be

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How many times does your retarded system have to fail before you realize the fundamental flaw in Marx' theories which makes them unusable?

Actually industrialization and the working class are what supports my high quality of living.

>c-class consciousness
more like "everybody is rich compared to inhabitants of communist systems" consciousness

Stop enabling them, faggot. If everybody ignored and hid these threads these kids would fuck off.

>fascism
>bad

Fuck off worthless kike

>leftists worshiping stirner

The irony gets more and more hilarious as they go on.

Good thing your ideology is dead and will never rise again.

>he doesn't know what sage is

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those are for specific topics, Sup Forums is for all ideologies, or else it the board would be called rightypol

Thanks.

I wonder if the commies even realize how outnumbered they are. Do they honestly think they can outpost people for whom shitposting is a lifestyle? Our piss ocean is impenetrable.