Which one and why?

Which one and why?

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I personally believe the way that the ancient Romans/Greeks did it was the best way. An early form of fascism (or just authoritarianism in general) used as a tool to establish a more sustainable democracy (libertarianism). Face it, democracy doesn't get shit done (especially representative ones/republics) but it will always be the safer route as going fascist runs the risk of power abuse.

Libertarian If you are a US citizen

Nat Soc if you are anywhere else

I'd call myself a National Libertarian.

Pretty much this.
The US doesn't have the same national identity, at least not as a federation.
If the states were to split some of them would be able to adopt NatSoc.

Also, Libertarianism i general is often confused with Anarcho-capitalism In terms of Government essence.

In general.

Libertarian : Government is a necessary evil that must be checked and limited by knowledgeable and responsible citizens.

An-cap : No government at all

I'm between at this point. I am an ethno-nationalist, but at the same time, I believe in personal freedoms and capitalism.

National Anarchism is the only way

Free from capitalism and the state but without the garbage leftist cultural shit

Well NatSoc for Europe at least, and not Europe united under NatSoc but rather different nations utilizing it (national, the way it should be). I can't say it would work just as well everywhere else.
Look up paleo-libertarianism and paleo-conservatism
Balkanization is exactly what we need over here
That's where I stand too which is why the Roman system works. The authoritarian part removes all the undesirables which allows the remainder to live in a racially-homogenous libertarian society. With just libertarianism like we have now there's nothing we can do to get rid of all the things plaguing society.
This

libertarians believe in republicanism

>With just libertarianism like we have now

Yes goy, the system is too libertarian! We need more socialist and government controls!

This

Natsoc libertarians are retarded

L I B E R T Y

>democracy (libertarianism)
retarded nigger

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Which flag or which ideology? I like the old one.

>Pic related.

Not bad but Idk about the yellow desu.

yea me too

ultranationalist libertarianism is my current ideology if I had to lable it

no hate speech, no national bank, no hate speech laws, no income tax, absolute self defense and bear arms rights, bill of rights, habeas corpus, due process, no war on drugs,...

combined with a ban on immigration, a ban on adoption and marriage with foreigners, a ban on foreign banks, allegiance to the flag, fixed national cultural holidays, a year of mandatory military service coupled to high school graduation, strict 'language law' on government language towards citizens and in public spaces, citizenship based on blood and ethnicity,....

They aren't related but usually go together

What I'm saying is you don't usually see countries with as much personal freedoms like the US use anything but democracy
Ideology. Of course Swastika wins every time

Neither. They're both idiotic

Hell Seger?!

Then what are you?

Also I'm not talking extremes like NatSoc/AnCap, just the social politics they represent in general. Authoritative/liberated

Sounds bretty gud

Im a member of NMR and consider myself quite libertarian.

The NAP dosn't apply to (((commies)))

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I like

Official freedom party militia flag when

I'm slightly more right leaning these days. Could the libertarians go with a better flag maybe? Like this but red?

no right for the government to borrow money, complete freedom of association,...

coupled with voting rights only to those over age 25, voter ID and who own land, death penalty for high treason, allowing propagation of communism but offering no law protection to those propagandists,...

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Literally oil and water.

How're you guys doing against Antifa?

Libertarianism has been pretty much discredited by the migrant crisis showing how dangerous open borders are to western civilization and how so many big-money capitalist pushed for it. Some libertarians will insist that you can have closed borders and free market capitalism, but the most successful capitalists will use their billions to lobby for open borders, and their will still be plenty of dumbass liberals helping them.

NatSoc for a healthy and strong society

Neither. Both are an excellent detector of retards.

I think thats your flag buddy

Reasons?

Who needs reasons when you've got National Socialism.

>socialism in England

Never gonna happen, nerd. Anglo-saxon's love freedom.

Most of this sounds good, yes please

Individual Freedom & Liberty my fellow Anons.

Neither. Leftist ideologies are all philosphical fapping with no long term real world benefits.

It's not like we seek them out, but they come after us and always get their ass beat, then the cops goes after us.

>Mfw I carried a shield during the recent demostration to protect people from the leftists
>Mfw I'm forced to use them to protect from the police attacking us out of the blue
That was a strange experience

>Anglo-saxon's love freedom

doesnt look like it friend.

Liberty and limited government is always the correct answer.

spread that to all your cuck buddies.

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t-thanks frenchie

have another pic

>he thinks National-Socialism is socialism
>he doesn't know Hitler was an authorian libertarian
We had gunz, no speed limits and all goods we wanted. It wasn't a over regulated socialist shithole as usual socialism.

In all seriousness. The libertarian party is a joke these days. You guys need to clean up your act and maybe stop smoking the weed so much.

What is a Aleppo?

B-but he took the guns?

I think that's probably the way the right is going to have to take in the next few years if we want to have a strong ideology. National pragmatism and protectionism are just the way to go

No he didn't

National Socialism, because it takes the best from both systems.

Libertarianisms fault is that you can't regulate mistakes (immigration, disgusting forms of capitalism) and you're people aren't united. NatSoc unites your people, prevents the state from decaying but gives its citizens social, educational and economic freedom.

Says the inbreed shitposter.

>Alexander Hamilton
>libertarianism
Hamilton was the opposite of Libertarianism, he founded the Federalist party, was pro-british and pushed America to found a National Bank
Rumored to be with the Rothschilds as well

what do you think of this?

sorry but things like the fuhrerprinzip, a ban on smoking etc are too authoritarian.

>inbefore degenerate

I'm a normal conservative though. Limited government with small tax incentives for married couples and the traditional family unit. The state has been trying to replace the family unit with the welfare state for too long.

I know, but his quote is pretty based

but do you agree with the rest of the post or nah?

Hamilton would be poster child for glorious lobertarianism in Yurop right now. He is only remembered as authoritarian because of the bank and because he was in constant conflict with Jefferson, an even more libertarian man.

Can someone explain the difference between fascism, NatSoc, and nazism ideologically and economically?

Why not both?

germany posting nazi pics.

fuck. they probably have the best ones.

this!!!!

fukken saved

I would take national socialism but without the militarism and excessive racialism.

saved

From Jews

Absolutely correct

Paleo-libertarianism is very solid, that's what I'd consider myself.
Paleo-con is more Trump-style

I would take it without the leader cult, secret police and excessive taxation

Neither

good to hear
stay safe brother

Libertarian: govt is a necessary evil

Ancap: govt is an evil

>authorian libertarian
What is the meme speak? If you are thinking of mug freedums, he wasn't. You can read The Vampire Economy or the Wages of Destruction.

>101102056
>(((communism)))
>ever
leave. no (You) for (((you))).

You know I tried fact checking this. All the right leaning sites National review, Infowars, ect. say "yes he did". All the left left leaning sites Salon, Mother Jones ect. say "no he didn't.

So...idk. Everything and every issue goes back to LITERALLY HITLER apparently. Can't we forget Hitler already? Current year folks!

Radical pussy

And the social democrats from what I read. This is no good. Guns for everyone or no one!

Libertarianism is cucked

There can be no institution yet institution is needed to maintain any type of moral values.

America is cancer because of it, it just leads to degeneracy. America needs to balkanize.

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At first I thought this was just an edgy troll post, and it might be but... It's true isn't it?

How can a new social order be established if we need to give reasons, explamations, excuses for our views like some embarrassed cuckservative? Only to have our sound arguments trampled by the braindead elephants who don't get it.

They ought to look up the reasons with their own inquiring mind like the rest of us, but that won't happen until THEY are at OUR mercy.

Hell Seger, lads.

In other words this

Are there real communists other than the edgy high school kids?

But americans have the best fast food pics my friend.

Yeah the extreme racism (as in dividing that much between europeans) is something I'd disagree with too, but if you look at stuff like the SS foreign legions and listen to some Hitler speeches you get the feeling Hitler didn't take that as serious anymore after publishing Mein Kampf.
What's wrong with militarism though? Army training for every 18 year old boy is good imo and it's always usefull to be able to defend oneselve.

If I'm living in a nation, I pick libertarianism.
If I'm ruling a nation, I pick Fascism.

If there are then they deserve a helicopter ride from Pinochet. Better dead than red.

Also National Socialism, forever and always.

For real Austin Peterson was the only choice for that retard party and they celebrate like fucking morons that they had "soooo many votes" but that is only fucking because the two candidates running sucked

STATEKEK

now I think I'll stay, it's /comfy/ here

NatSoc and nazi are the same. Nat Soc and Italian fascism share many similarities but they are often tied to their national roots.

Mussolini had what he called corporatism which has a very different meaning than what Anglo may think of the term and is actually very close to syndicalism. Very roughly, this is a modified version of the guild structure of some ancient, medieval and modern cities.
Nazis were more "modern" (no positive connotation, I mean modern in the sense of le current year) in that their system was bureaucratic and "scientific", with government employees in a central administration issuing regulations faster than they were gassing the twenty gorillonz of Jews.

daily reminder that national-socialist are still socialist

What's the official position on homosexual men by NMR?

Extermination?

Heard some cringy insults against "bögarna" at latest protest.

>not bad except for the yellow
>yellow on the Gadsen Flag
What other color would you prefer on a flag that is dominated by the color yellow?

Theres a big difference desu.

Also you left out the gay bath house keys on the libercuck side

Okay, I don't know if I like your apparent pro-hitler stance but using a shield like that is pretty cool man.

hoppean meme, we hate gay

>citizenship based off of blood and ethnicity
Hell no.

>Being a statist in the current year.
>Implying you need to relinquish property rights to be united.
I am fine with a little nationalism, but a state tends to cause more problems than it solves.
This, socialism is still socialism, even if it caters to a homogeneous society. Social welfare programs are destined to cause retards to breed more retards and have higher IQ people pay for them.

maximal nationalism and maximal liberty.

Left because we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

I've only ever heard people arguing against the gay lobby.
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Something cooler.

Please don't zap me Mr.Vice President. I don't want the buttsex.

We need a place to put all the national socialists, after all.

Like orange?