Is global warming a scam?

The Jurassic Era had 5 Times Today's CO2 levels.

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That's because they had vegetarian dinosaurs, while we now have ManBearPig.

It did, and because it had 5 times of C02 in the atmosphere that meant that it also had 5 times the amount of Oxygen after plantlife converts C02.

And you know what that caused?

1) bigger creatures
2) bigger bugs
3) more vibrant bloodflow thus more energy.

It was better overall.

I dunno why climate change scaremongers are so worried.

It's their path to totalitarian control of the economy. They've been slowly creeping, but the elites got impatient and trying to push this through. They've done it before with things like peak oil, but that was before the internet. This time, unless they get rid of the internet...everyone is going to be skeptical of everything they bring up from here on out.

trying to jew us with carbon taxes or something.

Picture related, this is what i'm on about. Such things existed back then.

>It's their path to totalitarian control of the economy

This. It's just a rationale for wealth redistribution on a massive scale.

Its not better for us moron we would die

>Is global warming a scam?

Very Yes.

Forgot to add

>Jurassic world makes le genetically engineered dinosaurs meme.

>doesn't add gaint fucking scorpions and centipedes which would be 10x terrifying because they'd burrow and you need an enclosed room to keep them from simply crawling over the walls or up the sides of fences where the wire isn't electrified.

Oh god Americans are really this retarded

Why the fuck would we die? Dickhead.

There's oxygen in the air, it's the same oxygen we breath today there's just more of it, there's still nitrogen and many other gasses which we need to breath in too.

But the oxygen is so plentiful, we could run further, we'd be more alert, we'd be less tired and brain activity would also be more on-point.

What are you smoking other than pole?

Breathing in PURE oxygen kills you because it's fucking oxygen and nothing else.

The atmosphere back then wasn't pure oxygen.

In fact, our atmosphere will NEVER be pure oxygen.

>The oceans would also be vastly more infused with oxygen, allowing for larger sea creatures and regular rainfall which in turn keeps the vast amount of plantlife providing the c02 and oxygen, to keep alive.

>Oh god Americans are really this retarded

Good luck with your tax on breathing.

>nitrogen and many other gasses which we need to breath

And I'll add further

>Megalodon didn't go extinct
>great white sharks -are- megalodons
>natural selection ensured that smaller sharks capable of taking in the small amounts of oxygen in the water survived as they had a smaller body which required less distance and less work for blood to circulate around.
>bigger sharks effectively choked to fucking death unable to breath after the meteorite hit, the sunless dusty sky above wasn't a problem to creatures who live in the fucking dark.
>great whites are the outcome and survive.

Downside

>we'd get megalodons again.
you do the math chumps

it might as well be,the wayt it's overused politically to undermine The West. Instead of focusing on polution people are bitching about fucking carbon dioxide

You're aware that we actually breath in a lot.

78.04% nitrogen.
13.6% – 16% oxygen.
4% – 5.3% carbon dioxide.
1% argon and other gases.

But there was no Ice caps you dip

Aye, and look at the life which thrived. More than what we have now.

>It's their path to totalitarian control of the economy.
Probably. Game theory* suggests that the correct response to a global warming threat is to consume even more energy, to grow your civilization into a competitive place to be the survivor of climate change even as weaker civilizations perish.

*my starting assumptions are:
>anthropogenic global warming is probably real
>the same consumption of energy that makes us successful is tied to this anthropogenic global warming
>humans have generation times MUCH shorter than the kind of timescales where this climate change can really change things

It's literally in our interests to be short-sighted. Because we breed at 13-50ish years of age, so making more copies of your genes is required to survive in, let alone dominate, the globe. Small populations get fucked when radical changes happen.

>humanity would survive in a Jurassic environment

You are now aware that molecular Nitrogen is unavailable for biological use, even when our bloodstreams are saturated with it

Your nitrogen needs are taken care of through food.

> What is the ice age.

It would though.

Why do you think it wouldn't?

>The planets heat was only a little hotter
>more oxygen doesn't mean it's more deadly or more dense, there's just more to thrive on.
>weather was more reliable.

What is the ice age?

Well after the jurassic period, is what it is.

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In higher Oxygen, we would likely age faster

>Ice age
There were none in the Mesozoic era you dipshit. Glaciers didn't appear until the Continent of Antarctica move to the south pole and the poles realigned themselves

Of course there is going to be more life when people shoot everything that moves and kill shit that looks dangerous

>great white sharks -are- megalodons

Yes, China invented it to fuck up US manufacturing.

Why can I imagine that happening.

Earth's oxygen sky rockets and bigger crocs, sharks and bugs begin showing up.

Humans start killing these things in worry.

I've not heard of this before actually, care to explain how this happens?

They are.

Same jaw shape, same body colour, same skin, everything's identical aside from it's like someone scaled them down in MS paint.

fuckin weird, man. molecules are like velcro and shit. they only stick if they got a stickyzone

the human body is crazy.

who fucking made eyes, man? Some bacteria group must have build that shit together at one point. Have you ever thought of this shit? It's wild.

>who fucking made eyes, man?
The Lord, God. He created mankind with His own hands. Read the Bible.

This. The true red pill.

Now think about how ocopus and relatives of them are the only creatures on the entire of fucking earth with an eye which is solely unique to that family group and scientists legit believe that they're aliens which started from bacteria via a meteorite and they're foreign life forms which evolved on a foreign world.


>world in space
>billions of years before earth
>gets destroyed by a huge impact with another world, or something else devastating.
>large chunk of rock with frozen bacteria, dna of another world floats through space for eons.
>hits earth, thaws, multiplies, evolves
>grows into early octopus, evolves into modern octopus

This spooks me.

Sup Forums is pretty retarded sometimes. Not everything is a conspiracy theory.

>Scientists find some evidence that the Earth is rapidly warming (geological timescale)
>Scientists document substantial increase in CO2 emissions following the industrial revolution and onward
>They put two and two together and create a theory on human-induced climate change
>Scientists are bandwagon attention whores like everyone else
>Tons of researchers jump on board, everyone loves to make bold claims about apocalyptic scenarios
>Capture the public's attention with doomsday predictions
>Some corporations take advantage of this, invent and sell "green" products
>Some companies resent how the movement is restricting them
>Different political ideologies adopt different ways of dealing with the situation

It's not the Jews trying to control the economy, it's not a shadow government.
It's just a bit of data and classic human overreactions.

How do people would know this?

Fuck I hate neo-scientists that believe they can predict the past.

No legit atmospheric scientist would doubt CO2 levels have been higher at some point in Earth's life. Al Gore and politicians are fucking retards who are in the way of actual science.

What is concerning about today's CO2 is how fast CO2 levels are rising, and how average temperatures are rising with CO2 levels. There has never been CO2 level rise this quickly in the history of Earth. We know this through proxy data, which is able to store atmospheric chemistry for literlaly billions of years.

There is only one difference between CO2 level rise in the past and now. Humans are the primary reason CO2 are rising so quickly today.

It's called digging really fucking deep, and taking samples of earth below us which still holds data of compounds at that era.

This applies MASSIVELY to tar pits, which can keep something submerged for millions of years and gives us a really good idea.

Fuck, you could cut entire chunks of cliffsides off, and you'd see the many many layers from cretaceous, Jurassic and Triassic periodsand beyond, and after, along with all of the information from their atmospheres at the time.

>Humans don't harvest oxygen producing plant life.

Yes, just like cold fusion.

We do, sure. But the amount of plantlife on earth, even now, is far more than enough.

Hippie niggers who claim that we're gonna run out of trees really really think the world must be tiny.

It's not.

The reason is because O2 is producded in the body are free radicals which are extremely volatile and reactive as a result the more build of oxidizing molecule kills you so thats why you need to eat more antioxidants or reducing agents

Yeah Do some research on climate Change you fucking bong

>No backup to opinion.

ok m80

I can't tell whether Sup Forums is joking sometimes
This is considering oil companies almost certainly pay off some scientists to discredit it

I also asked "Why the fuck would we die?"

And you didn't reply.

Discarded.

You do know climate change will cause a ice age right?

Global warming while somewhat true is completely blown out of proportion by politicians that want to fund their friends green energy companies that are massively inefficient. At the same time they try to impose regulations on other forms of energy like coal to stifle competition.

I don't understand why they push the green agenda so hard when India and China will never go green even if they pretend they are going along with it. It wont happen. Not only that, cow farts seriously release a ton of CO2 and that will never go away. People will cry about genetically engineered fart-reduce cattle.

So another meteorite will hit earth and the generations-long dust clouds will drastically cool the earth's surface, thus bringing on an ice age afterwards will happen?

Cool story, bro.

What I left out was that if global warming is real and the USA went 100% green, China and India will do more than enough damage to push us to the point of no return.

The Jurassic era was part of Earth's natural cycle. Now we should be having lower CO2 levels than we do. The temperature is already observably rising in proportion to CO2 levels. We risk fucking up the climate cycles (and all the side effects like sinking cities, displacing animals etc.) real good.

When I was a kid Time magazine said that all the exhaust from cars was gonna block out all the sunlight and we would have a new Ice Age.

Sinking implies the cities are lowered into the water.

The water levels will rise, you are thinking of the word "flooded".

>Not only that, cow farts seriously release a ton of CO2 and that will never go away

Hopefully laboratory grown beef will make a huge rise in the near future. I know I'm quite excited for the world's most perfectly marbled steak.

we would die you do realize climate change will kill massive amounts of animals large cities will go underwater.
You are on your PC atm Just do some research
I am not a scientist and you have them explain it to you not a random poltard

No, the Ice Age will come regardless. We're just delaying it with our artificial warming and thus fucking up natural climate change cycles.

You do know what gulf streams are you moron

No we are not delaying the opposite
The warming of the planets will cause glaciers to melt and will fuck up the gulf streams

That's not even the real problem here, the problem is that we don't know what happens when we alter the warming-cooling system of the Earth.

Obviously, but even God uses a method man has been able to discover as we learn to create like God.

His work on the eye eludes me.

planet*

I would eat it, i think its a cool idea, but unless something serious happens to our food supply lab grown beef will never be marketable because people just wont trust it and the price will be way too high.

People freak out about any gmos, regardless of how beneficial they are.

>Earth used to be a Pangea
>the land is spread out over deep time
>somehow, magically, water levels will rise. We'll somehow magically obtain more water molecules on earth dispite the fact nothing on earth can ever be totally destroyed. Something turns to somehthing, nothing comes from nothing.

If we -do- flood cities, we'll just return earth's water levels back to what they were meant to fucking be.

Do you know how big insects were back then? top lel

It also had 5-7 times the air pressure and density of atmosphere.

>Doesn't understand how Glaciers work

The earth cant be destroyed by us
it never will be. but we can kill ourselves

We cant. As I said with
We can't just magically over-produce materials, there's not an endless supply of C02 to pump into the atmosphere, you can't get something from nothing, it has to come from something.

I'm angry that Sup Forums is falling for this bait.

>its CLIMATE CHANGE now
because not enough people bought into the bullshit

lastly, any opposers get ridiculed for voicing opposing data

They had motherfucking dinosaurs then too! Is that what you want? Some big ass lizard running up and down the block eating people and stinking up the place?

You're a leaf, your prime minister actively allowed entire C02 eating, oxygen producing forests to be burnt to a crisp.

I don't think being GMOs would be much of a problem. Sure some people freak out about them, but aren't modified fruits and vegetables the norm now?
Price is a bigger problem. Almost nobody is willing to pay more for a product that isn't directly better.

They'd make a damn good yard pet.

It's a question of scale, user.
We're harvesting plant life quicker than it can replenish. That's not a problem yet but with nine million oxygen breathing food eaters being born every month it eventually will.

At the other end lets take the humble jet.
Last year there were 51 million flight hours logged - just by passenger/cargo jets. The medium to bigger ones can take a football field sized piece of air, heat it to hundreds of degree, convert the oxygen within it into carbon dioxide via kerosene and blast it out the back. Every. Fucking. Minute.
Multiply a football field by sixty.
Now multiply that by fifty one million.

And that's just jets.
The entire deep water horizon spill would have been consumed by the planet in an hour and a quarter.
90 million barrels a day, a lot of it for fuel for everything, the rest for plastic, clothes, pills, pesticides, gloves, the energy to make glass, steel, concrete etc, and so much more.


The "red pill" isn't actually that man made climate change isn't real.
It's that it is, and there's actually nothing we can do about it, short of a global population cull. Governments are just taxing for the sake of taxing.

Wouldn't we need more trees to keep up the oxygen rate with carbon emissions?

>Population cull
>India
>China
>Africa
>African Americans

Solved it.

Suck down my appeal to emotion and pay the carbon tax!

Sadly The west has been become pussys no genocide will happen

Also, higher oxidation levels would cause more free radicals which damage and destroy mitochondrial and cell membranes faster, causing us to age faster as said

It wouldn't be hard. With modern machines, we could plant more trees than we cut down.

>Noone bothers though.

pussies*

The time for them to grow however, is a different problem entirely.

>Western civilisation makes 20% or less of the population, but consumes over 80% of the resources.
>America alone only makes 6%, but guzzles 25%

It would be nice, but it wouldn't solve it ;_;

Then I know what will.

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TO THE STARS, MEN.

Read this book..
Global Climate Change is a fucking Scam to instill fear to control the populace and a means for Corporations to make billions.

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It comes from coal and oil which when burned releases the carbon stored in those materials as carbon dioxide you fucking bong

Aye, and what did coal and oil come from?

Plantlife and living matter which has decayed and turned into those forms. We're simply releasing the energy which was rightfully on the surface of earth years ago, and putting it into the atmosphere from whence it came.

>muh 97%

>who fucking made eyes, man? Some bacteria group must have build that shit together at one point.
Bacterial "eyes" do exist, alhough AFAIK they are all simple light sensors rather than proper imagers

>Is global warming a scam?

No.

Yes. When you use a CO2 fire extinguisher, it comes out as freezing cold matter, yet we are told CO2 warms up the atmosphere

You need nitrogen or at least some sort of inert gas to equalize the pressure in your lungs.

There is also far, far less plant life/trees than there were back then.

Like most things I'd assume its partial truth partial falsehood. We surely contribute. But do we need to regulate ourselves back to the swamps? Nope

this. michael crichton was originally looking into making a day after tomorrow climapocalypse, but upon doing his own independent research, realized that global warming really wasn't science as much as politics.

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