/left/ General - Running Out Of Scoialist Puns Edition

Greetings Comrades

This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

ABC's of Socialism: s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:
Anarchist:
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

Libertarian:
Mikhail Bakunin - God and the State (short read)
Thomas Paine - Agrarian Justice
Noam Chomsky - Notes on Anarchism
Anton Pannekoek - Worker's Councils

Marxist-Leninist:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium#Exploitation.2C_atrocities.2C_and_death_toll
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Fuck off reddit

Pls tell me where to find r/AgitationCommittee

Hello Comrade how are you? Let's keep these Sup Forumsyps triggered.

Remember that the commies here:
>eat food produced by capitalism
>watch TV shows produced by capitalism
>play vidya produced by capitalism
Thats about all they do so the list ends here...

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Will hotdogs be free under comradism?

If I become a communism can I live like a NEET forever?

Pepe says Fascism is better

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Communism doesn't work, it's a fantasy for jobless leeches and people who bitch about their wages to claim moral superiority about but have never been successfully implemented past socialist revolutions.

GTFO

>lefty
lmao @ ur life

>workers of the world unite

>the white, working class of the United States united voted against the interests of the big banks, corporatist globalist elites, AND the marxists
>"BAWWWWWWW DRUMPFKINS ARE FOR BIG CORPORATION"

>Marxist losers try again, only to fail for the 6 millionth time

not an argument

Reminder that the capitalists here:
>eat expensive food purchased with meager wages so they can live another day to get their boss rich
>watch TV shows to distract from their miserable lives
>play vidya to distract from their miserable lives
That's about all they do so they will all die miserable and alone...

>watching TV and playing video games
Reminder that the majority of modern TV and Video Games are manufactured to sedate the wageslave so he'll be productive for porky

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Not an argument.

How much is that comradism in the window?

Corporations are people too. In the free market, you have a choice to wrok for one that pays you and treats you well. In communism, you are coerced to work by your supposed needs, and that of which is yours belongs to everyone. The freer the market the freer the people.

shit owned

Both of these posts belong in the

I wish I had spent more time working time and neglecting my life to make my boss rich

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*work

Unironically responding with 'Not an argument' as a retort is, in itself, a non-argument, as I so eloquently demonstrated, pinko.

fixed

Marxism is opium for the intellectuals (and the trashiest elements of society)

FUCK COMMUNISTS

ALWAYS SAGE
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>the freer the market the freer the people

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium#Exploitation.2C_atrocities.2C_and_death_toll

>imblying both sides don't have their fair share of asspained shitters (though the lefties more obviously so).

Pls tell me where to find r/AgitationCommittee people it's awfully quiet and I'm lonely

Socialism is an ideology that revolves around the 'collective'. Not really a hard concept to understand.

Any one individual's well-being is at the expense of the collective. Anyone's well-being is at the expense of everyone.

EVERYONE'S well-being is at the expense of everyone in a collectivist system. This system does not guarantee liberty

or individual rights to people. It is blanket legislation, which is why it is so easy to manipulate and runs inefficiently for

the people as a whole. If there is one thing about this system is when it has brought nothing but depravity to the masses,

the party leaders would have the gall to say, "we are just doing what is morally right and good for the collective".

It's a fucked excuse to accumulate power and redistribute it in ways legislation sees fit. Regardless of what the terrible results

this system yields, the masses are brought up in an environment that brainwashes them, and this is all the party leaders need to do

to maintain power.

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Kill yourself

You may not be pinko, but your reddit-spacing is atrocious. Fuck off.

>Scoialist

>cucking yourself to corporatist elites
Fuck off neo-con shitter.

U the same danekike, who defended the holodomor? Fuck you.

Will I be able to buy a NES classic edition under comradism? I've been looking for one but they are sold out EVERYWHERE!?!!?! I'd gladly vote for the comrad bros if they let me buy NES classic editions.

THANKS!

>lefties more obviously so
these threads prove otherwise

>Cherry picking a still largely successful economic model while you believe in a practical myth

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Halp this feels like the Vietnam War again

You shall be assigned a robot to build one for you with proper accessories.

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*ironically
what other way is there to respond to shitposts
o-oy vey that's s-statism not TRVE C-CAPITALISM

How else is op going to read my message?

looks like someone didn't read the wikipedia article about socialism before they posted

You have no freedom, so fuck off.

No but you can have the crappy East German Socialist knock off.

>remember that feudal peasants revolted against their Kings to create capitalism with tools and weapons that those Kings owned, what a bunch of hypocrites

>that woman stabbed her husband with OWN KNIFE THAT HE BOUGHT after he raped their new born daughter, what a hypocrite.

YOU FAGS ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED

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Kek, trigged? Thats right, everything your mother buys you is made by capitalism and BOUGHT with hard working money. Why don't you go ahead and stop supporting the big mean capitalist machine? That's right because you dont know how any of the things you consume are made, hiw the food is grown, how the TV show is filmed or how the vidya is produced. Its about time you realise without those youd'd be worthless and bored.

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I was too busy reading up on how cultural Marxism was a hoax :^)

Why does Sup Forums worship the Big Boss Cock?

Someone correct that with shoop. Make Pepe MAGA and put Tyrone's head saying "shieeeeeeeeeet"

>hillary is marxist-approved
Marxists are literally against "corporatist globalist elites." We even call them by the proper term.

Your "socialism explained by socialists" is wrong, so no

A system that rewards the talented and capable leads to the talented and capable being able to support more offspring ensuring an upwards evolutionary progress. A system that gives everyone an equal amount of resources regardless of merit is inherently dysgenic. Why do leftists want to support evolutionary stagnation/regression so bad? Is it the only way for them to spread their shitty genes?

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Oh please. Every time you see an actual debate on commies here, it always devolves into you pinkos rationalizing pointless genocide and death on your own people, crying out "muh Paris Commune," and claiming the squat conditions of communist dictatorships were fictionalized propaganda where actual documented evidence proves otherwise.

>Cucking yourself to bureaucratic elites
Fuck off marxist shitter.

According to Mikhail Bakunin, no.

According to Peter Kropotkin, yes.

Most people will choose work over not working. If you choose not work its really your loss. Once we live in a fully automated co-cooperatively owned society it will cost us next to nothing to keep feeding you while you rot. We won't even notice you.

But sure, go ahead. I guess.

see
stay classcucked

kulaks deserved it Himhö and so did you in the winter wars

Well you gotta realize that Trump said the things that the people wanted to hear. Why would a large business man care about the workers? C'mon now let's think for a second about that. What have the rich buracrats, CEOs , and wealthy families care for anything else but money? They might but honestly, they are greedy we all should at least know that.

So why the working class chooses Trump you may ask? As I stated one reason above, there are other factors that could come into play. Such as promises of revoking trade deals and making more jobs. Those are the two biggest driving forces for him. Immigration scapegoating Cheap Mexican labor saying he will build a way and make the Mexican Government pay for it.

Propaganda at its finest my friends. Americans will wake up once its too late and they will go from wage slaves to simply slaves once again, just with a different name.

>Aussie
>Saved a gay porn pic
>T-that'll teach those capitalist pigs right comrades?

I expect better shitposts from you, you're trying to keep the title from leafs remember?

More like, "Running Out Of Plans Edition"

>class consciousness isn't an identity
Own your shit. SJWs are your ideological children

Even though the USSR outlasted Nazi Germany by about 40 years? Even though Cuba continues to outlast Nazi Germany? Or Italy? Or Spain?

Hell, even Kurdistan has now outlasted Nazi Germany lol

I see the Marxist, the Islamist, and the Greedy Corporatist as one in the same enemy, attacking tradition and the common man for decades.

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To be fair we have Capitalism now and the unintelligent have far more children than the intelligent.

nothing gay about licking your mates butthole

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I bet you never stood in line for toilet paper, have you maplenigger fuckhead ?

I lived in Soviet Russia during the waning years of the soviet union (before ironically moving into this marxist shithole), and i can tell that you are a tryhard edgy teen with no idea what hard socialism and communism does to a country.

Question:

Would you ever higher a person who was not going to make you money?

No.

So you will only ever higher a person if you can profit from them.

So you will only ever higher a person who will make you more money that you make them.

Its that simple. This is the undeniable truth of private ownership

This always made me laugh, people actually thought they weren't voting someone backed by a jew into office. Its not about weeding them out, its about finding which side has the interests you care about in mind.

>tradition
Meaningless tripe that changes on a whim.

Day of the rake soon

>If he's so smart, how come he's dead

>o-oy vey that's s-statism not TRVE C-CAPITALISM
It literally wasn't. It was Leopold's private property.
Unless, ya know, you want to acknowledge that any geographically localized monopoly on force is in fact a state, whether or not you call it one, and that market forces necessarily drive capitalists towards the establishment of states to further their interests by coercion.

Oy vey the drug cartels aren't an example of capital run roughshod over society and the individual, i-it's all because d-drugs are illegal, I swear!

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>tfw right wing populism is flourishing throughout the western world and marxists are more irrelevant than ever

That's where you're wrong m80

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>Islamists attack tradition
uh ok

>uk flag
>higher a person
>higher

Can I join?

this

>more like useful idiots but still

Socialism is for the weak. You cant create, only take from others.

>My family are farmers in the eastern europe
>ruskies come take their land
>family still works on land but now 'shares' it with other families
>majority of the harvest goes to the state
>production drops significantly
>reforms in the 80's happen
>gramps 'buys' the land
>kicks every lazy ass out
>even kicks the local party official out
>production increases 10 fold in a year
>10x more the next year
>more than enough food to go around
>during the shortages his farm provides food for more than 30,000 people
>commies are bewildered how an 80 year old man was able to feed an entire city with a couple dozen workers while their factory farms can barely support a few hundred

Why couldn't communism feed these people?

Reminder that Communism doesn't work as well as Capitalism and was a failed improvement.

Putin isn't a populist and he loves the Soviet Union.

join your leader, burger

Why cant Venezuela feed this dog?

>TAKE IDENTITY POLITICS TO THE TRASH

Does that include Jews?