Is the Alt-Right the "useful idiots" of Duginism?

I came across this video and I think it's extremely important for all alt-righters to see. I'll try and summarize some of the key points.

youtube.com/watch?v=CdkfEKOVaFc

Basically, Russia and the alt-right are both opposed to American-style globalism. However, the alt-right has made a critical flaw by assuming that because they share a common enemy, it means that Russia must also be nationalist. Rather, Russia is Russian-globalist, and is exploiting emerging nationalism in countries all around the world, as well as their ideological opponents (such as "Afro-American racists), to create discord, chaos, and general weakening so that Russia may assert itself as a global empire in the ensuing power vacuum. The point is not for nationalism to win, but for nationalists and anti-nationalists to become stuck in a perpetual civil war.

A core tenet of Duginism is to define the sphere in which other nations discuss their politics. Covert power is more important than overt power; that is, countries do not have to become physically part of Russia as long as they are controlled by it. Finlandization of the entire Eurasian landmass is the goal. Thus, Duginism is to the alt-right as Cultural Marxism is to the left, in that Duginists are completely oblivious to the fact that they even are spreading Duginism.

This really puts us in a new context. Are we just playing into Russia's geopolitical scheming?

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radixjournal.com/journal/2016/10/28/beyond-nato
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
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1. It's late in Romania, go to bed Lucian.

2. This is entirely self defeating as a strategy. Russia is going to exert influence over other countries by making sure they are strongly nationalist? How would they even exploit this? It seems like Russia is more concerned about being left alone and dominating its own already large and ethnically/culturally diverse land mass and securing it then actually trying to dominate anyone else. They have the GDP of fucking Italy, how could they effectively militarily or even diplomatically suppress another nation already in either China, the US's, or a European Powers' sphere?

>Are we just playing into Russia's geopolitical scheming?


Probably. Oh well, back to trap bdsm porn.

Duginism is irrelevant and zizek-tier

>Finlandization of the entire Eurasian landmass is the goal.

Russia isn't "russian globalist" it's imperialist, insomuch as you can be imperialist in this day and age.

America is also imperialist but since the driving force in america is the corporate world, the corporate world is happy with a more general, and more easily achievable, "western" "empire"

You misunderstand. To use America as an example, Duginism would simultaneously support Black Lives Matter and Richard Spencer's NPI. Perhaps they'd even support one on the surface while simultaneously supporting the other one in secret. The point is to keep the two of them fighting forever so that America will become weak.

The exertion of influence is through ideological subversion, not merely economical and militarily. It's about inserting pro-Russian attitudes into all sides of politics, even when they're opposites. For example, Russia has legalized abortion, but Dugin wants to play both sides of the abortion issue in other countries by both presenting Russia as a strong ally of Orthodox Christianity for the pro-lifers and as a strong legal power of abortion for the pro-choicers. What Russia ultimately decides for itself on abortion doesn't matter. Deception is morally acceptable as long as it serves Russian interests.

>Are we just playing into Russia's geopolitical scheming?
Yes, and every time we've tried to warn you about that you've posted something along the lines of "hur dur y r u so butthurt finland" and continued to worship Putin. Russia is aiming to become a global superpower, so that kind of contradicts the anti-globalization narrative of the alt-right and because Russia doesn't have anything to offer to Western countries, they need to assert their power by force. They are imperialists. This current movement that Sup Forums is pushing just makes it easier for them, because Western nations are becoming more and more divided and less devoted to their countries, i.e. less likely to defend them. I'm not saying that this isn't just as much the fault of leftists due to their zealous attitude towards identity politics, political correctness and immigration but alt-right isn't really helping. Both sides are on each others throats all the time, so they both ignore outside threats; left ignores Islam and the downhill of Western societies and right ignores Russia and the downhill of social cohesion.

Russia does not want a "global empire"
the communist days are over
Russia wants a rejoining of the former communist states, Russia wants a strong economy, Russia wants non-hostile countries on their borders

etc

Anything that leads away from (((American))) hegemony is a fresh breath of air for Europe even if the risk is Russia becoming the new oppressor.

And anyway, what exactly would Russian style imperialism bring to Europe that the degenerate (((atlantic))) world hasn't already?

Noone ever listened to Dugin ever in Russia. I can't even imagine how he got some fame in in internets. Despisable person in Russia

>This really puts us in a new context. Are we just playing into Russia's geopolitical scheming?
if Russia is actually going to help kill the anti white mainstream culture of the shitty modern USA, then fuck yea Russia bring in the tanks, boys.

this Italian gets it

I should also point out it's quite ironic that leftists acknowledge the threat that Russia poses but don't seem to realize that military personnel in Western countries are predominantly white right-wing nationalists and that their policies make them less eager to defend their country against Russia. Very counterproductive.

So divide and conquer is the grand duginist strategy? Thats it? Thing is we have enough division when it comes to things like this already, have for a long time, and its only been getting worse. If Russia is helping with this then they are only moving along the inevitable, not actually changing something that was happening. I get Russia's game has always been playing sneaky sneaky but that's all their game is.

The right question is what it takes away. Here are a few things:
>Your culture
>Freedom of speech
>Humane standards of living
>You
Just take a look at the areas Russia is occupying or used to occupy. The natives are gone from many places, the infrastructure is worse than in Africa, people live in poverty and they know that they aren't allowed to complain, let alone rise against their oppressors.
Pic related is the former railway station of Viipuri, designed by architect Herman Gesellius. Russians demolished it and built some awful communist hovel in its place.

Russia has many structural issues related to an antiquated infrastructure, over reliance of resource extraction, and an aging population. The core soviet states the russians would like to regain control of have even more extreme cases of these problems.

I literally see no downside form an american perspective if they assert more regional influence, in fact, allowing them to annex belarus and ukraine would essentially force them to keep control over two giant resource sinks.

>a lot worse
>introduction of Logos to the society
a lot worse

I'd much rather live in a Russian dominated globe than an American one. Less faggotry

...

But that's against the very values you preach to others: freedom and democracy.

is it really the case?
my culture is already being destroyed and rotting pretty badly after just 50 years of (((liberation)))

as for the rest, you can't separate the USSR from its historical reality
their economic model might have been disastrous but you can't deny that after WWII they weren't exactly in a great position to recover, with the US getting the economic upper hand and buying themselves Europe with Marshall's plan

anyway, I don't want Europe to be in Russian hands either

>it's subversion that is open and honest
>yet you are called a conspiracy theorist for calling it
That's only because the propaganda of today has made it so that nobody absolutely wants anything in this world. Every agenda is non-existent, if it doesn't start today and end tomorrow.

Our historic foreign policy was isolationism, which is the logical conclusion if you think about our geography and our neighbors.

It's also sort of irrelevant to my point. Would the russia annexation of ukraine oblige the russians to invest a huge portion of their wealth into modernizing a dying country?

Interesting thesis but if my only other option is shipping all our jobs overseas and wars for Isreal, I'll choose being a useful idiot for Russia.

I sure as fuck hope so, Ive been a fan of Dugin and his books for waaaay longer than ive been aware of the altright

>Would the russia annexation of ukraine oblige the russians to invest a huge portion of their wealth into modernizing a dying country?

Of course not, they don't even pay to modernize the infrastructure in their own dying country. The Russian takeover over Belarus and Ukraine would do nothing but hand them control of hundreds of millions of acres of the most productive farmland in Europe. The needs of the indigenous populations would of course be totally sidelined.

Why won't u fuckers organise Europe countries so that they can stand on their own legs?? Why should u play for some"global powers"? EU has everything to form a mighty superpower on their own.

>Why won't u fuckers organise Europe countries so that they can stand on their own legs?
EU, kikes, what have you.

>However, the alt-right has made a critical flaw by assuming that because they share a common enemy, it means that Russia must also be nationalist.

Rest of your post dismissed.

Pic related - The so-called "Alt-Right" and it's relationship to Russia is one of temporary mutual assistance.

>This really puts us in a new context. Are we just playing into Russia's geopolitical scheming?

Yes. They also understand they are playing into "ours", but Putin believes this is manageable.

This is not entirely different from how Obama and Hillary believed they could utilize Wahabi lunatics to reach goals in North Africa and the Middle East, and the Wahabi lunatics felt they could take what they need from the Americans without being controlled by them.

It can, of course, go both ways.

No one knows how it will play out.

Also, I want to believe you're real, but you smell like the other shills trying to squeeze every non Hillary supporter under the Kremlin Agenda.

An angle which is getting really fucking boring and more and more distanced from reality.

So if the russian leadership just loots its' populace without any regard to long-term stability, then who really cares what they do?

>The Russian takeover over Belarus and Ukraine would do nothing but hand them control of hundreds of millions of acres of the most productive farmland in Europe.

Who cares then? They already have that, and any strategic loss could be fixed by changing current crop production in other countries.

>is it really the case?
It is.

I'm going to sleep now, so my teaching for tonight is the following:
The West needs to unite again. Each nation needs to unite and the nations need to unite with each other. We don't need to live under authoritarian EU rule or see the downfall of our culture and we also don't need to suffer Russian imperialism. We had this all pretty much figured out after WWII: strong nation states co-operating with each other economically and standing together against authoritarianism. Then it all started to fall apart, when EU started to turn into an undemocratic beast, liberals started to scoff at patriots and idolize some sort of perverted version of multiculturalism.

Like the Canadian said, they don't even invest in their own country. It would only mean that you lose an ally, an ethnic group will slowly start to die and Russia gains even more land (as if they haven't already invaded and occupied enough).

>This is entirely self defeating as a strategy. Russia is going to exert influence over other countries by making sure they are strongly nationalist? How would they even exploit this?

A real world example is Le Pen.

She wants to Make France Great Again. She wants to revert to a state that is free from overt outside influence, that is not being destroyed by soviet tier management and mass migration and cultural decay/removal.

She receives support from Putin.

Why? Because the weakening of the E.U. and NATO (which would come from France leaving the E.U. to preserve itself) favors Putin.

If they don't want people to turn to Le Pen and Putin, then they need to make compromises about how they run their nations and Union.

The problem is, as we've seen over the last decade, they refused to. They doubled down. Now they've gotten themselves into this mess.

Merkel could have, for instance, avoided the nationalist backlashes Putin is taking advantage of, by simply not drowning her country in human filth and destabilizing Europe.

The E.U. reminds me of East Germany before the fall. The powers that be (hell, in the U.S. too) simply refuse to address their mistakes, and it's only common sense that a power like Russia will exploit that.

No it's not.

The U.S. just funded an undemocratic coup in the Ukraine.

I should have been more clear. I mean mutually nationalist, as in respecting each others' right to sovereignty and not trying to conquer or interfere with each other. Just because you're a nationalist for your own country doesn't mean you respect the nationalism of anyone else.

It won't happen Finn-Bro.

The E.U. will remain dominated by Marxist Technocrats and continue to grind it down.

Merkel plays far more into Russia's hands, unwittingly, than groups like the NF or AfD.

They don't need the Russians to use propaganda to sow discontent. They're capable of doing it all on their own.

The Russians don't. Never have.

That's nothing new.

You're still operating under a false assumption.

The "Alt-Right" doesn't have an allegiance to Russia nor believe Putin is a Nationalist who respects other nationalities.

That's a childish mode of looking at the world.

>Well, those two people have a similar agenda on Object A.

>Therefore they are aligned on all other Objectives

Suuure

underrated

>the only people who doubt Hillary's genius are KGB
Saged and hidden.

Communism =/= Russian style. If it was, Viipuri wouldn't have existed at all.

Implying Russia annexed Ukraine.

US State Dept organized a coup in Ukraine. Dumbass. Russia annexed Crimea after we screwed it all up. Because Crimea was strategically important.

Why would Russia want Ukraine? Theyve been bled dry. Basket case nation now reduced to civil war.

If Russia annexed Ukraine then why were Victoria Nuland, John McCain, and John fuxkin Brennan all hanging out there shootin the shit while the government fell apart?

any webms of this?

I see a lot of reckless and baseless Russophilia on the right. Case in point:

radixjournal.com/journal/2016/10/28/beyond-nato

I feel like Putin is a male reflection of Hillary. A totally corrupt criminal whose crimes get ignored because they pander to a gender ideal. In Hillary's case it's because she's "breaking the glass ceiling" and "overcoming oppression;" in Putin's case it's because of his macho posturing.

>The point is to keep the two of them fighting forever so that America will become weak.

Right. There is no need to call it "Duginism" as it is the SOP of all Empires and great Nation States.

There's two important things about this;

1. You cannot cry foul when a rival takes advantage of your flaws. It is up to you not to have those flaws. That is something that those on the Far Right want to rectify.

2. You cannot expect people to disadvantage themselves to serve another persons goals.

By which I mean, telling the "Alt-Right" you must accept losing so that people nominally allied with you can win against people you aren't opposed to isn't a winning strategy.

The E.U. and Hillary both wanted to implement policies that would continue to weaken their nations and leave cracks for exploitation. The Russians will of course take advantage of this.

Do you think the North Vietnamese worried about China's undue influence on their civil war?

(they probably did, but they also probably felt secure in their ability to manage it)

That's the problem though - The E.U. and U.S. Globalism has already started removing;

>Culture
>Freedom Of Speech
>Humane standards of living (clearly not at the same level, but rapidly approaching it)
>You

They know this too. That's why they're either Doubling Down, or in some cases trying to extend olive branches.

I personally despise Putin, one of the reasons this
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
but I believe that the """"alt right is Kremlin propaganda"""" meme is not true. I agree that Russia can exploit us, but """"alt right"""" was not birthed by Russia, the reasons are more tied to white people getting sick of the white guilt, PC and SJW's. I believe we can still resist Putin's imperialism under Le Pen, BNP and AfD, it's just that the way how EU is right now has to change.

Also, people seem to forget that the SJW-s in Russia also might seem terrifying to russians, since the movement is entirely foreign to them.

I don't want to say that america is bad and russia is good, I wanna say that the whole Europe becomes stronger under Le Pen, BNP and AfD, which surely benefits europeans, regardless if allied with Russia or not. Either way, I find it highly unlikely that Russia is going to physically occupy european countries in any shape or form and get away with it. Even if they can, it won't be easy for them, and they will pay in their own blood if they try.

>radixjournal.com/journal/2016/10/28/beyond-nato

did you even read it, it doesnt say anything negative about Russia you moron

>Radix

They, like say, the NF, are either, as you said Russophiles, or so far gone on their mission that they can't see the forest for the trees.

That's why Sup Forums doesn't like to be labeled "Alt-Right" as they are dogmatic.

>I feel like Putin is a male reflection of Hillary.

He's nothing like Hillary. There is no U.S. equivalent.

But "totally corrupt criminal" is a fairly accurate description.

>whose crimes get ignored because they pander to a gender ideal

No.

They "get ignored" because right now it's not convenient to discuss them. Much like during the election Trump's lies were disregarded, not because they weren't apparent, but because it was necessary to reach the goal.

The left was the same with Hillary. They might use "muh vagina", but what they really meant was;

>We don't care. We want to win.

Again, this is...nothing new.

It's not like Churchill or FDR thought Stalin was a great man of the people and an all around swell bloke.

But they needed him until the Nazis were taken care of.

Same story here.

As I said - Many of the Far Right and White Nationalist side quite literally have associations with people Putin wishes to purge. Precisely because they are nationalists standing in the way of a greater Russia.

I've been beginning to wonder about this, actually.

If Cultural Marxism worked so well, who's to say Russia stopped playing that game after the USSR fell?

Dear Adolph;

You lost his sentiment in translation.

"baseless Russophilia" means they are defending Russia.

Dugin is a fag.

The problem is this;

>The E.U. is rotting
>This allows Russia to take advantage of it
>The E.U. wants to build it's strength back up, while continuing the same programs and maintaining the same systems that are causing the rot

Many on the Far Right are aware of the danger from Russia that comes of dismantling the E.U. but the only alternative they see is to break down the whole E.U., return the identities to the individual nation states and rebuild.

I mean, honestly, it's a lose lose situation for the E.U.

As they dilute the identities and strengths of the nation states, the less invested in protecting those nation states the inhabitants are.

Why would a Congolese migrant or a Pakistani migrant give two fucks about protecting Belgium from Russian aggression? They'd just pack up and leave to the next Safe Space.

>Just take a look at the areas Russia is occupying or used to occupy.

well ok, let's do this. let's look at literally all of eastern europe.
what do we see? >99% white nations, whose ethnic and cultural integrity is miles ahead of any western nation, and the gap keeps widening.

now let's look at nations that were ruled by america instead of russia.
what do we see? rampant degeneracy, white populations in rapid decline, total cultural bankruptcy.

They haven't. The mistake is believing that there is only one side playing the game, and that they are only playing one game.

Also, that there are only pieces, and not individual actors with their own motivations.

Just because "Someone" is paying and promoting BLM doesn't mean that the blacks inhabiting that movement don't sincerely believe in it and are using it for their own advantage.

>Why won't u fuckers organise Europe countries so that they can stand on their own legs?? Why should u play for some"global powers"? EU has everything to form a mighty superpower on their own.

EU is all about hardcore anti-nationalism, and it's actively working towards futher destroying our peoples. not an option.

google the caption

White nationalism has been the go-to "useful idiot" repository for like 50 years. There was a definitive moment about 9 months ago when alt-right was hijacked by TRS and co and turned into the bastardized piece of shit it is now.

Meh American flag listen, your country is the only superpower now, with the strongest self-sustained economy on planet Earth with working political system, arguable on of the best, US is undoubtely technological innovations leader. 20% world gdp vs. 2% Russian world gdp.

One thing u need to do is to make America American and noone, noone ever can threaten you.

It is not about eu cucks it is not about China (giant on a galss legs) it is not about Russia which have plenty of structural problems. Its all about US, it is the only country that really can protect whites from extinction on a long run

You didn't watch the video. Russia has worse demographics than the much-mocked Sweden.

Calling Slavics and Nordics the same race because they're both "white" is reckless.

Immigrants don't go to Eastern European countries mostly because of the poverty of those countries.

"Degeneracy" and "ethnic and cultural integrity" are dressup for "I don't like thing."

Dugin pushes Russians to race-mix with Finngolians, turkroaches and chinks.

He's literally an SJW.

>Russia may assert itself as a global empire in the ensuing power vacuum.
With that as your fundamental analysis of Russia you are wrong.

Dugin is an SJW who calls Westerners racist if they think that their culture is better, he also pushes for some Russian nationalism that conveniently combines all the squint eyed races in the territories that they would like to recover.

This is what I have been trying to explain to my brother all the time, his reason for being bluepilled is that """alt right is Putin's propaganda to dismantle EU and take europe""" meme, which sucks, because you perfectly explain it:

>europe benefits by being more united on the basis of strong national identities, honouring european traditions instead of (((diversity and equality))) and will not be crushed
>russia benefits by knowing for sure that the new europe doesn't wish to wage war with russia

I hope I can gather good arguments from this thread to confront my brother about this insane shit.

No one in the alt right gives a fuck about Russia.

Can we just admit that we are in common league with the Russians, that the globalist system sucks for us and sucks for Russia, who constantly is having the globalists foment revolutions in their country (and now in ours see BLM/recount bullshit)

Screw this, if Russia's sphere of influence grows a little because we don't overextend our economies and political will to fuck them over I don't care. We will all be richer and safer without globalism.

go to bed Hillary

Finland, I don't want to defend you.

You ought to create a scandanavian/ eastern Europe defensive pact to check Russia, the world would be a lot safer with regionalized conflicts and not global ones.

Russia doesn't care about the white race, true, but the current globalist order is actively trying to destroy us.

You can despise the Jews without trusting the Russkies.

He's right though - You remove nationalism, and people will fall back to ethnic or religious divisions.

You change the ethnic and religious composition of a nation, remove the concept of nation hood, and you've just transplanted Africa or the Middle East to Europe, which will then be just as easily, if not more easily, exploited by the Russians.

>"Degeneracy" and "ethnic and cultural integrity" are dressup for "I don't like thing."

It's not a dress up. What you exclude from your culture is every bit as important as what it includes.

Not liking, for instance, Islam, is important to protecting Western Culture (and ultimately civilization).

If the E.U. was serious about a Russian threat, they would not be so keen on weakening and destroying the fundamentals of their member states.

But I don't believe they really see them as a threat. They just need a boogeyman to distract from their own failings.

It's why Merkel claimed the "Migrant Crisis" (that was of her own devising) was being "weaponized" by the Russians.

But this is like giving a book of matches and TNT to an angry man and then crying foul when someone shows him how to light the fuse.

Maybe don't give them the matches and TNT in the first place?

The Russians took over lands that were ravaged by marauding Islamic hoards in the steppes, why would Russia wreck Europe if they exerted influence in Europe? Also, not communist anymore.

Is this your newest attempt at subversion?

/leftypol/?

>threat of Russia becoming much stronger

kek dont get your hopes up, Russia is less modern than China with a shittier economy and shittier military

Just remember that they aren't WRONG about what Putin is up to.

The question is;

>Do we acquiesce to Putin the short term

>Or die in the long term

Basically;

What good is there in protecting Estonia's short term interests if in the long run there is no Estonia?

Also; A lot of these discussions are predicated on the belief that Russia ITSELF won't fall victim to a more vicious strain of ethnic nationalism. That Putin is an infallible genius who can take the cap off the gas bottle but control the winds.

I think people give far too much credit to the capabilities of our respective rulers.

>MUH RUSSIANS

I'm """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""alt-right"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and I know Dugin is full of shit.

>Are we just playing into Russia's geopolitical scheming?

No. They're a largely irrelevant country, dirt poor with almost no force projection.

Reminder these are just subversive threads coordinated by /leftypol/

Too smart for /leftypol/.

More likely the same people behind PropOrNot and other similar anti-Bannon, anti-Alt-Right anti-Russian (be those perceived useful idiots left, right or libertarian) groups.

Only retards actually like Russia on Sup Forums. There are unfortunately a handful of easily led sheep who are fooled by Putin's idiotic posturing, but his recent stunts seem to be redpilling people on Russia. You can be against western globalism and Putin's cronyism at the same time.

Go check out their site right now, they're currently holding a discussion on every thread that belongs to them

Eurasia is riding. The West is dying

shit

this was meant for you

>military personnel are welfare queens.

Fixed that for you.

In a real war there will be conscription like in Finland. Then the U.S will be able fight using smart people instead of retards too dumb to go to community college.

I suppose you're right. We'll just have to move forward while watching our backs.

I've thought about the possibility of war(s) breaking out after the rise of Nationalism that is happening globally today after reading Dugins recent article on it. He states that the rise of Nationalism may have been planned by elites because Nationalism will likely lead to war. A war or wars that elites can exploit in any manner. Regardless thought reminded me of Syrian rebels, Assad's regime, Hamas fighters, ISIS and so on. Those people fight for glory and their people. If war is coming those people are an inspiration.

>Then the U.S will be able fight using smart people instead of retards too dumb to go to community college.

The Vietnam War would disagree with you.

>"Degeneracy" and "ethnic and cultural integrity" are dressup for "I don't like thing."

You had me at the beginning but this statement just discredited your arguments entirely and it makes it impossible to take you seriously when you do not respect the natural arising institutions that give rise to societies and keep them afloat.

You didn't think the middle class would send their sons off to die would you?

>He states that the rise of Nationalism may have been planned by elites because Nationalism will likely lead to war. A war or wars that elites can exploit in any manner.

Pic related to fan your paranoia.

>ISIS

This is the blow back. Like the Germans learned during WW1, vile ideologies like Communism may be great at destroying your enemy, but there is no way to put the genie back in the bottle once it's out.

The Americans were happy to watch Moderate Rebels blowing the fuck out of Putin's puppet in Syria.

But then it spiraled violently out of control.

Maybe Putin will wake up one morning to find that his nationalist movements have grown attached to other nationalist movements, like those in the Ukraine, and they can't just be "switched off".

Precisely. Which makes me wonder why you think anything has changed since.

(other than the eradication of the middle class, I suppose)

"Degeneracy" is a form of the kafkatrap logical fallacy.

esr.ibiblio.org/?p=2122

I'm not a cultural relativist; I'm saying he's making a bad argument. It's disguising your subjective wants as objective forces of the universe.

That's what I'm saying. Rebel and guerilla groups could be appear in the west if Nationalism does lead to war. No more you side with the mulato mong U.S. army or defect to Russia. If Nationalism wars are planned out by elites or enflamed by Russia I think paradoxically they will be more fragmented. Perhaps groups will try to fill voids of power.

I replied too hastily in my rejection of the "degeneracy" buzzword. I do stand for ethnic integrity, but "cultural integrity" is an entirely different concept, is way more subjective, and can be evil or good. Pic related: Muslims would consider flooding their streets with blood and spreading diseases to be "upholding cultural integrity." In fact, saying that cultural integrity is always good is the exact same as being a cultural relativist.

Cultural relativism would be implying all cultures are on the same level, some cultures are inherently more successful than others, and the lesser cultures should be subjugated in one way or another, it has been this way for all of human history, it is but human nature. Western European culture had proven to be the ultimate bastion of progress and European imperialism rivaled Rome in it's achievements, so yes, i do believe we should uphold our values, and not commit cultural genocide and WILLINGLY allow lesser cultures, such as Islam, subjugate us. We must learn from our ancestors in order to elevate western values, uphold them

We are superpower now. And the only thing which we are trying to export is a responsibility of superpower countries - USA China and RF.
Now we have no world order but we all need it and the new world order would be done want you or not.

And plese relax. We wouldnt caprture you.

>"Blacks, women, and other historical out-groups were right to demand equality before the law and the full respect and liberties due to any member of our civilization"

Seriously... men and women are NOT equal, races are NOT equal, there are severe consequences for the fabric of society when biologic imperatives are discarded and we turn to fabricated ideologies based on delusions, one of the downfalls of our society was women's suffrage, which fragmented the family as a structure, it stopped being seen as a unity with the man at the center of it, what we see today are the results of such delusional degenerate value systems, a collapsing society, which willingly invite invaders and harbingers of its own demise. The ultimate tragedy

Nah we need to capture Finland and Poland. Just for lulz.

Lol and part of Estonia to tease them.

I never said I agreed with his egalitarianism; you're missing the broader point of the article. "Degeneracy" is an unfalsifiable frame which cannot be proven right or wrong and cannot be argued against without being accused of being a degenerate. It's rooted in absolutely nothing in reality. It's the deception that the accuser's selfish wants are an immovable, inevitable iron law of the universe. It's empty psychological abuse.

>Dugin's agents on nu/cancer/ (trump shills) will deny this is happening

>Dugin's agents
What? Are you serious?