East Asians vs Europeans

The qestion:We all know that East asians:Japs,chinese and koreans tend to score higher IQ on average then European white,right?Well here is a qestion then why do moast genius people in history have came from Europe and not from East asia? (Pic related)

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East Asians have a higher average IQ but Europeans skew higher and lower so there are more geniuses and retards.

There are more genius and retarded europeans than there are retarded and genius asians

Because you can cheat on a test but you can't cheat on an invention

East Asians are more collectivist and less meritocratic. Also the different is less than five IQ points which can be chocked up to culture. Most of IQ is inherited but there's room for culture and the current western culture is pretty shit.

These correlate with:
>East Asians are more collectivist and less meritocratic.
btw, Europeans/whites have a higher degree of variation in IQ so you have a squatter bell curve which leaves you with more people on either side of it, while East Asians and really most people outside of Europe tend to be far more uniform.
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Shit on it all you want but about 80% of what he says here is accurate.

There is a difference between average and standard deviation. Also, Asians tend to be collectivist and to be a "genius" you need to have an impetus to go against the trends.

Because chinks are cut off from god or the Logos, so they have a mechanical intelligence. All the great achievements of Europeans were part their own intelligence but always through inspiration from a source we cannot see but glimpse in dreams and in revelations.

i think asians are very rigid in their systems, even if you have a high IQ, you need freedom of mind to invent things.

its the same reason cultural marxism isnt working there, so thats a bonus

Asian social order was and is far more rigid both socially and intellectually.
This is most evident in China, the great Drone Hive, and least prominent among the Japanese, the Jews of the East.

To be fair it took over a century to break the wills and minds of whites/European people. The chinks haven't been a target of this stuff up until the early 20th century

No competition we are more civilized than crazy white man who cant function without morality.

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There's only two actual geniuses in that pic.

Also, that filename, "Scientists". Aristotle wasn't a fucking scientist.

Whites have more variance. This means we get both more retards and more geniuses, this of course results in more chaotic societies as well.

East asians may have high IQ but they have very low emotional intelligence, that's why whites are better, it's not just a joke when people call asians souless, they have serious deficiencies when it comes to empathy

The european bell curve is broader, they have more geniuses and more retards.

But yeah the east asian average is higher. Having been to Japan, I can confirm that their society is much more civilized and well functioning.

But on the other hand, they're ugly manlets.

Bahamas......you no asian you idiot.And your country has eaven smaller IQ on average then bouth asians and European whites.

That one guy who doesn't understand the difference between sex and gender.

It's because in a collectivist society that erases the individual and is bound more by kinship than by merit you don't need to develop empathy since empathy stems from dealing with individuals on an individual basis as individuals.

East Asians have on average more QTs.

yeah, they don't go to war without committing atrocities.

Are there any signs that japan or china are starting to change?

If i were to subvert the japanese, i would use the rape and nankin and those wars, but they refuse to apalogize for it, dosnt seem to be working

i dont have anything on the chinese, except all the commie deaths, but self inflicted atrocaties dont work

got any ideas?

This. Their culture is very collectivist.

>I can confirm that their society is much more civilized and well functioning.
Being soulless and washing away the concept of the individual in shame isn't "civilized and well functioning", it's suppressing what it means to be human and is extremely dystopian to anyone with a soul.

you posted kazakh girll

At least Japan has their wacky pop culture to blow off all the suppression.

Reaction time evidence suggests that the average white in the Victorian era had an IQ 15 points (an entire standard deviation) than the average today. I would bet that if our culture and popular entertainment didn't push its degenerate, anti intellectual agenda on the poor, uneducated and even middle class our average IQ would be just as high.

Collectivist and less meritocratic societies are easier to subvert if you can subvert their collective identity. It's funny actually, one of the reasons whites are being subverted is because of collectivization and a shame culture that has been pushed on us.

A wacky pop culture that is rotting them from the core, just like our's. They're just so cucked by their absolute collectivism that they can't change their own course.

He claimed this from simply having been to Japan too. Not worth a response t b h

I'd argue that it's the effect of a high population density/urbanization for centuries before whites even showed up and genetics.

That would put us 10 points above the Asian average and on par with Jews. Also got a sauce on that claim?

>einstein
>degrassetyrone

kill yourself

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289613000470

You're probably right.

What are you even trying to say?

>A wacky pop culture that is rotting them from the core, just like our's.
Actually, anime is the pinnacle of human achievement.

Neat, thank you

>Bill Nig the Science Nig

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The last time a leftist rose to any prominence in Japan he got fucking cut in half.

My theory is that Nips are immunized against cultural Marxism because they already developed their own fundamentally different self-destructive culture that cannot be supplanted, because, in contrast to Western leftists, they are far more aware of the culture's self-destructiveness but accept it anyway or refuse to change it.
The Marxist is guided by ignorant self-righteousness, while the Japanese have resigned themselves to enlightened degeneration.

Probably right. Also you have to remember though, Asian politics and Western politics are fundamentally different. Think about the difference between politics between European countries and the US and then multiply that by ten. My understanding is that you can hardly translate it and the mindset over.

its not about whos best. thats nigger talk. its about whos worst. whos holding back humanity

you get europe all to your self as soon as you admit you dont want any one else there. black people got the same deal with africa though some whites are still hanging around asians want nothing to do with africa.

the muslims and black people may refuse but as long as your not cucks you should be able to purge them. asians have been waiting on canada to admit it at a administrative level for a few years now. its can all be yours... and mexicans and muslims and black peoples if the white leadership just admits it

you'd need to target something they feel bad for

like only being allowed to have one child, getting adicted to opium, working in pollution, making shit quality goods, getting nuked twice...

Literally what you are you trying to communicate?

asian children are raised with almost cruel levels of disciplines. It results in a psyche that filters out any truly original or creative thought that challenges the status quo.

There needs to be a revolution in the east imo, starting with the chinese communist party.

that could work against the current government, but that might mean it would be replaced by something pro chinese. If the purpose of subversion is the destruction of the host country, then it wont work.

to self destruct a people you need to find something that the people did to some other people, like in the west.

Nah, that's demoralization, you have to get into their culture first though. You have to shake the foundations of their society by using itself against itself, for example the west/whites have a universalist sense of morality so the subversion started by playing up universal elements in our religions and laws and sew the foundations of the guilt tripping later. Asian religions and societies are almost nihilistic you play up that, you reinforce that there is no point to anything so why even try since it will all be washed away again. In fact the Eastern sort of mysticism is something that was pushed on the west back in the 60's for precisely that reason. Take a look at Korean, Japanese, and Chinese media, they play up the depressive nihilism to an almost self destructive degree and it works.

Bump

actualy its about society right now. in europe we have socialism so our education suck. and white americans have same average IQ as japs, so oyu can take your asian masculinity shit out of here.

That's a possibility

>East Asians vs Europeans

Divide and conquer thread, eh?

>rationally analyzing reality is divide and conquer
This thread has been 99% reasonable and just civil discussion

good point, will look into that. Fun to analyze

I'd watch this: youtu.be/5gnpCqsXE8g again. Just replace "Soviet Union/communism" with Jews (lel) and realize this has been going on since (((they))) started founding banks and dominating the international finance system back in the 1800's (and early if you want to go there).

>This thread has been 99% reasonable and just civil discussion

Not all divide and conquer attempts are sucessful.

Take a look at OP's posts.

And I refer to the Yuri lecture because he discusses some of the basics of subversion, demoralization, etc

>East Asians vs Europeans

Europeans occupied and colonized east asia because they were relatively speaking primitives even though it was geographically distant..

End of conversation.

The OP was a bit of a faggot with how he phrased it but everyone else has been fine.

Meant for:

Don't try to over simplify it you stupid fuck.

Aristotle was a scientist. More specifically a biologist and a botanist. He would have Alexander the Great ship him exotic animals from all over the world so he could study them.

Yes and no. The concept of "science" didn't exist then.

>Hawking
>Dawkins
>Sagan
>Tyson

Oh come the fuck on.. This is embarrassing.

Which are basically Mongolian, which are basically Chinese.

Nice job ignoring the point of the thread and shitting it up

Morals are for subhumans who cant control themeselves without morals, you europeans are wild beast compared to us asians, its so funny how this one single mental illness of yours is leading to your demise. We will not help you because you are in the way for our eventual conquest of this entire planet.

The concept of science started centuries before Aristotle. Thales, Anaximenes, Heraclitus, Anaximander, Parmenides, Pythagoras, Empedocles all abandoned mythological explanations of the world in search for a naturalistic one. Empedocles had even deduced a rough concept of evolution.

That's not very good logic

Why do people forget that China has one of the if not the longest list of inventions? Morons.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

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>muh 4000 thousands years of civilization

You don't understand what science/ the scientific process is.

Higher testosterone, higher individualism, higher skew, higher verbal intelligence

The whites are egotistical caucasoids they are dumb animals dont try to reason with them.

"Four Great Inventions"

Four Great Inventions: papermaking, the compass, gunpowder, and printing (both woodblock and movable type).

How many truly great inventions has Europe made? I bet more than four.

Anyone who thinks asians score better on IQ tests are seriously blue-pilled. Not only that, but IQ tests are not a good indicator of intelligence.

>Higher testosterone
So you admit you are prehistoric caucasoid ape compared to us, no wonder you love niggers so much you are basically already niggers.

>inb4 muh dik

>t. low test chink who lacks the drive to achieve great things
Lel

"the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."

Sounds like you don't.

Meant for: as well

it is abit of a contradiction :p We are individual collectivists at the moment.

We are individuals when it comes to defending ourselvs (so we cannot be proud or defend outselvs as a group) and collectivists in that we must feel group shame for ancestral wrongdoings.

collected in guild, seperated in pride

>using test levels as reason
You even act like a nigger white man.

>The OP was a bit of a faggot with how he phrased it but everyone else has been fine.

Sup Forums is awesome like that.

Yeah, and they didn't have the concept of the scientific process then. They observed and experimented but they didn't have the scientific process as a concept and procedure. By your logic all people are scientists because in their daily lives they're studying the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world.

What a wannabe-edgelord.
Point and laugh

You're confusing individual shaming with individuality.

>silly racist you are stupid
Stop acting like a nigger white man. Oh you are german white man how does it feel to be associated with your cousins?

>you are prehistoric caucasoid ape compared to us
>us

>checks flag

I got news for you nigger

It's one of a few. We're as smart if not smarter than chinks while we're still high test and driven by our physiology. The Asian civilizations had a thousand year head start on European civilization and yet you never explored beyond what you could hop along on the coasts. The furthest you ever got was East Africa. The fucking Norsemen, a low population density bunch of farmers managed to trade as far away from home as you. They fucking discovered North America and settled fucking GREENLAND

free thinking. also,
>neil degrasse tyson

Im no nigger you dumb white ape.

could you expand on that?

The scientific method is just an efficacious form of inductive reasoning, which existed long before any scientific method.

Aw whats wrong whitey you getting frustrated when your own logic screws you over?

>SEE LOOK NIGGERS HAVE LOW IQS AHAHAH
>WHAT NO WAY WE ARENT DUMBER THAN ASIANS BASED ON IQ TEST NO WAY
>NO WAY MAN THOSE CRACKERS ARE LYING WE AINT STUPID

Just like niggers you white apes are.
>muh discoveries
>muh science
Who cares about that shit? Our societies are overall more civilized and stable than your own in all of history.
>Muh Nanking
Dont act as though you had no acts of savagery ever white ape
>muh soulless chink
Your cousins the sand people are idiots that follow a black and white outlook of reality just you white fools all of you Caucasoid apes are insane lunatics. Jews are also Caucasoids.

Holy shit, that's some fucking butt blasting if I've ever seen it.

Collectivists shame the individuals and ultimately the goal is to shame out individualism. That plus putting non-whites in white countries up on a pedestal will eventually have the opposite effect, these leftists are pushing people to see things in a racialized way so eventually the "White oppressors" or whatever will be forced to form a core of ethnic/racial identity which was bred out of them.

fucking white males

>Damn these crackers mad hating on us shieet
Now you are resorting to egotistical insults just like niggers when people dont agree with you.

Let's just all get along and love each other. Everyone, sing along!