What is wrong with abortion?

What is wrong with abortion?


I really don't see any problem here, because the developing infant have not created consciousness yet, so basically it's just a junk of human cells.

>Prove me wrong

You're basically just a hunk of human cells, abort yourself.

Oh? You don't want too? Whoa really makes you think...

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There's nothing wrong with abortion if it's to get rid of subhumans like downies and other genetic rejects, or to get rid of rape bastard who no woman should be forced to carry.

But European birth rates are extremely low as it is.
There is no reason why a healthy fetus concieved from consensual sex should be aborted if the mother is perfectly capable of giving birth.
Our population is declining rapidly and it needs to be fixed.

are you this retarded?? do you even understand what i said??

Do you remember when you where inside your mothers embryo?

I feel the same way about pro-abortionists. They haven't really reached mental maturity yet so we should just be able to kill them.
Do you remember when you were 1 year old? Should pic related be legal? Why not? It's just a clump of cells?

>But European birth rates are extremely low as it is.
There is no reason why a healthy fetus concieved from consensual sex should be aborted if the mother is perfectly capable of giving birth.
Our population is declining rapidly and it needs to be fixed.

literally
>my emotions are feeling bad so the other human don't have rights to abort because it's in their definition healthy kid.


I understand Sup Forums don't have many people with reasons.

Theres nothing wrong with it. Only god bothering gun toting redneck americans will tell you different because muh mystical sky fairy wouldnt like it

>Do you remember when you were 1 year old? Should pic related be legal? Why not? It's just a clump of cells?

No i don't remember. literally meaningless question

What's your point? It's all the births giver rights to give you life.

>I feel the same way about pro-abortionists. They haven't really reached mental maturity yet so we should just be able to kill them.

I see you really don't understand what consciousness means.

Literally, they don't view my point way of life so they need to get killed. nice user you really smart

It spoils the meat.

agreed user, too many mentally illogical people on Sup Forums

>No i don't remember. literally meaningless question
If it's a meaningless question why did you ask it regarding embryos you fucking retard? Be a little consistent.
>What's your point?
Point is by your insane logic it's okay to kill babies as well.
> It's all the births giver rights to give you life.
Kill yourself.
You don't know what logic is.

I think Sup Forums should have a bizarre and call it shit-post Saturday, shitterer-post Sunday. It is the only way to tidy up and get back to having fun.

It's friday today you NEET gook

2 simultaneous threads about abortion. Who gives a fuck. Scrape out the women with a tooth pick and suck it up with your mouth if you want. I`m pro abort DIY kits.

I know that I am just planning for the weekend. If more people did that there would be no need for abortions.

People should have right to post-natal abortions (at least 3 months aftrr giving birth). Infants are like puppies, they didnt develop consciuosness so they are more like an animal than actual human being.

Prove me wrong

Humans never stop developing

They are. It is called post natal depression. You get a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again.

Do you understand the definition of fetus or a baby 1 years old?

The baby 1 years old can see, cry and learn the fetus don't have anything developed to understand something its literally brain dead.

Look i see you have too much emotions inflicted by yourself. take control over your emotions and learn to talk with reasons and logic. have a nice day user.

Any child with parents under 100 IQ should be aborted immediately and it's parent's sterilized.

Life begins at the moment of conception.

That being said, abortion is the only thing keeping the nigger population in America low enough to keep us from turning into Brazil or South Africa, and for that I support abortion.

When I was young my mother worked on a special baby ward. They would practice demand feeding for premature babies. If the baby made a fuss they would feed it. If not it would starve to death. That was only 40 years ago.
Very premature babies can survive. That changes with time.

How's being 18-19 treating you?

But 1 year old cant survive withouth parents, take care of itself and understand too much. They are like cattle, 1 y.o. infants are on the same level as fetus.
Just because something has eyes doesnt mean it should be protected.

Yes, but they still have a mind that can learn and observe that's what's wrong in this situation.

Not over here, woman would be ostracized by society and sent to jail.

It amazes me that people can see something has a heartbeat and say "That isn't a living thing"

And the "not conscious" thing is equally stupid. It's like a winning lottery ticket. That ticket isn't $1,000,000 cash - but it that doesn't mean it's not worth $1,000,000 or won't turn into $1,000,000 cash.

I am convinced that people just aren't that stupid. It has to be a process of denial. Like the people who make a salad with 5 pounds of junk toppings and tell themselves it's health food because that lie benefits them.

And fetus can develop brain. Its only matter of time. Newborn is as dumb as fetus so if you can abort pregnacy, killing infants should be legal too.

His answer was a philosophical question.

He is saying that we are all just matter and we don't really know exactly what consciousness is, so it's impossible to tell when a baby is conscious.

Although I would argue memory is a form of consciousness, and babies are said to have memory sometime in the womb. I don't remember the exact time it can be observered, but you should look into it.

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Fetus have brains too you fucking enhedslisten voting nigger

>Do you understand the definition of fetus or a baby 1 years old?
You are babbling about meaninglessly as you have no arguments.
>Look i see you have too much emotions inflicted by yourself. take control over your emotions and learn to talk with reasons and logic. have a nice day user.
Aboter dig selv

some people really remember when they are 1 years old but that's like 0.00000001% of the population and that's why it's wrong.


consciousness is like identity or how your brain operates and define and see stuff. awareness of surroundings: the state of being awake and aware of what is going on around you.

However the starting point is hard to evaluate. The best part is when you remember your earliest part of life and nobody can't remember when they are a fetus because the brain is not 100% developed to operate.

consciousness is like identity or how your brain operates and define and see stuff. awareness of surroundings: the state of being awake and aware of what is going on around you.

However the starting point is hard to evaluate. The best part is when you remember your earliest part of life and nobody can't remember when they are a fetus because the brain is not 100% developed to operate.

In your mother's case I will make an exception

So what is the magic point of no return? The last moment when someone could abort a baby? We cant determine it, so why are we allowing to kill fetuses? Wouldnt be easier to let people sterilize themselves? Sex is all about procreation, there are thousands of ways to prevent pregnacy, but in the end fetuses, a potential human beings are forced to pay for mistakes of their parents. Is this fair? Should we encourage lack of responsibility for taken actions?
If there is no way to recognize moment when consciousness is being developed we should be able to abort everything that cant say "mommy please dont kill me".

>the developing infant have not created consciousness yet
What's your proof for when consciousness starts?

The real problem is that women have 100% of reproductive rights and men have zero.

In the case of an accidental pregnancy, a woman gets to decide whether she wants to kill a man's unborn child or have the child and legally force the man to pay for it for 18 years.

Women aren't held responsible for their actions. They have a get out of jail free card for mistakes. But a man is legally mandated to suffer for 18 years based on the whims of a woman.

Alternatively, if the man and woman are married and want to have a kid, the woman can kill that mans unborn child at any point just because she feels like it.

Men have no reproductive rights whatsoever.