Guns are a plague in the USA, i believe that they are completely wrong. The fact that i can walk into a gun shop and buy a weapon that really belongs in the army for under $1000 is complete nonsense. One of the arguments I'm hearing is this "guns don't kill people, people kill people" this is true, HOWEVER, having a gun makes it very, very easy to do so, if your assailant has a knife or club, you can at least run or reach for something to hit back with, also any injuries sustained will be relatively minor compared with a gunshot wound, it is easier and CHEAPER, to simply get some basic self defense classes, which educate you on how to defend yourself and those around you, and it is NEVER out of your reach.
Think of it this way: WITHOUT GUN CONTROL an assailant enters my house with a gun, i reach for my gun and shoot him, i am left with the emotional and psychological trauma that will potentially scar me for LIFE
WITH GUN CONTROL
if an assailant enters my house with a knife/bludgeoning weapon, i can (with some very BASIC training) incapacitate him/her, call the police and ask them to make an arrest, i have not wasted a life, i don't have to live with severe mental trauma.
Do you even know how high reptilians can jump? Do you even know repository are said to be 8' tall, with talons as tough as teeth?
Should I pepper spray it or what? It's not my fault norm is like you shoot the wrong SPECIES
Landon Hughes
put another column on that chart showing the percentage of negroes in each country and you get the reason for high death rate.
Luke Parker
niggers with guns are the plague, get rid of them and nobody would need a gun.
Carson Butler
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Evan Reyes
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Julian Scott
A leaf. Nuff said.
Aiden Perry
With what? A sword? The mountees? How many crimes were from unregistered firearms? Where are proofs? Where is >more than 1 post by this ID?
Adam Evans
what stops the criminals from using guns?
Dominic Thomas
another fucking retard leaf
Cooper Jackson
>flag >fag >canada
why do all these faggot leftists always run to protect criminals first and foremost
James Richardson
Why don't you make like a tree and >LEAF
Jayden Hill
Leaf is right. I'd like to see a burger-statistic on people killed by guns for intended homicide vs. people killed by guns for the purpose of self-defense.
Sebastian Jackson
What if the assailant also has some very BASIC training?
Gabriel Bell
Quit keeping this thread alive.. It's obvious bait
Liam Hughes
Freedom
what is it?
Colton Harris
That pic of yours is purposefully deceiving. The US has way more people than those other countries. It would be more accurate if it showed gun deaths relative to the size of the population.
Josiah Long
>if an assailant enters my house with a knife/bludgeoning The criminals will enter your house with a gun regardless of the law you idiot, that's why they're criminals, because they don't respect the fucking law.
All that is going to change is that you immediately comply with their demands or get shot in the face. And then hope they don't shoot you in the face afterwards anyways because they're fucking criminals.
You probably never ever even came close to have your home invaded have you?
Wyatt Johnson
Why does every other country want us to disarm? fuck everyone else were burgers remember! we're dumb,fat, and hard headed as fuck cold dead hands cold dead hands.
Henry Bell
maybe the problem isnt guns but is niggers?
Michael Wilson
If you factor out violence associated with the prohibition of drugs, American murder rates drops to European levels.
Tyler Garcia
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Levi Ward
>if an assailant enters my house with a knife/bludgeoning weapon, i can (with some very BASIC training) incapacitate him/her
I'm sure thats exactly what you'll be doing also I'm sure the attacker can't possibly have a gun if its banned.
Elijah Ross
you know most people dont actually rob homes with the intent of also committing a murder
Asher Hall
guns didn't murder anyone you fucking leaf
Elijah Baker
>most home invaders are just burglars so don't worry about the ones with weapons that do murder people because I said so.
Oliver Martin
I do know that. So without if the robber has a gun I should just let him rob and then call the police right?
If the robber has a gun sees I have a gun he will most likely run away.
Xavier Robinson
Sorry shill, but all evidence proves you wrong and we're logical thinkers. DC and Florida both saw ~40% decrease in violent crime soon after implementing better gun laws. Mass shooters have always targeted areas where guns were not allowed. Our gun deaths in our country is mostly poverty/drug related crime, especially in Chicago, suicides, and people shot by cops and these things will continue to happen regardless if gun laws are more strict or not.
Ayden Edwards
Death is good. HAIL MOLOCH
David Wood
/endthread
Luis Davis
Worry about your own laws. Banning guns stops the sale of them, they don't magically go away.
Jace Martin
Fucking Torontoniggers
Can we please nuke Eastern Canada?
Jaxson Edwards
>guns are now considered sentient
Really gets the noggin chuggin
Brayden Williams
b-but that's racist, literally a hitler
Matthew Ortiz
THATS BULLSHIT CUZ I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE WAS 4 GUN MURDERS THE LAST 20 YEARS IN FINLAND. a gun has wounded that many times. it includes hunting accidents also.
Chase Clark
>The criminals will enter your house with a gun regardless of the law you idiot, that's why they're criminals, because they don't respect the fucking law.
This.
If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
Joseph Bailey
I own 14 guns. Your opinion is worthless to me, leaf, as are your precious feelings.
Stay cuck.
Asher Cox
>rape advocate, hates the disabled, believes might makes right, wants black cock rammed down his anus
No
Gavin Wilson
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Juan Lee
>US has bigger population and is 40% nigger im surprised that number isnt around 15,000 or 20,000
Robert Sanchez
>US has bigger population and is 40% nigger
US is 11-13% black
Carson Jenkins
whats really comical is that its pretty much only in america that you need to consider guns as a method of self defense despite all evidence towards gun use in self defense pointing to them doing roughly jack shit
Jaxon Young
>despite all evidence towards gun use in self defense pointing to them doing roughly jack shit
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Joseph White
If guns r used to kill less that 10k people in a country with 320 million it's a nonissue
Carter Cook
>dosent realize people can get guns illegally >wise up stupid leftie
Ian Ward
>1 post by this ID nah
Samuel Clark
DAY OF THE RAKE WHEN?!
Jordan King
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Angel Wood
>doing hack shit >except for all of those webms of niggers getting rekt at gas stations where the clerks had a gun
So do you have a chromosome rewards card? You seem to be stacking up quite a few extra ones.
Ryder Adams
You do know that if you kill someone with a gun in self defense it still counts as a murder.
Jeremiah Cooper
Wait, I thought it was talking about the number of guns that were murdered?
#GunLivesMatter
Luis Collins
>other measures
how would a propane torch work as a weapon of self defense? I feel like lighting hair on fire works to demoralize your opponent, then you just beat them silly with the tank
Jaxson Butler
You do realize most gun related deaths are committed by blacks? Not to mention the high rate of suicide.
Noah Harris
No it does not.
My infographs have sources, feel free to ignore them limey
Oliver White
Really makes you think.
Blake Phillips
of course a fucking leaf thinks we shouldn't be able to protect ourselves or hunt and that the government should do it all.
John Robinson
Nice data.
Stay deluded, you stupid commie fuck.
Ryan Roberts
>wikipedia >a page that can be changed at any time >compared to infographics backed up with stated goverment sources
yeah sure ok nice meme wew
Charles Nelson
Welp, I'm sad now. Pretty sure the stats would be similar in Finland too, if they were allowed to record them.
Thomas Bell
when did guns start murdering people? Have they become sentient?
Aaron Morris
im not even going to read that because im willing to bet it has the ridiculous self defense statistic the NRA just made up out of thin air way back in the day
i too get my world views from gifs posted on Sup Forums instead of empirical evidence and reality
usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries >Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).
businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense >Hemenway finds more reliable an annual federal government research project, called the National Crime Victimization Survey, which yields estimates in the neighborhood of 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Making various reasonable-sounding adjustments, other social scientists have suggested that perhaps a figure somewhere between 250,000 and 370,000 might be more accurate.
Oh shit the fuck up with your liberal gun grabbing bullshit, you cuck
Nathaniel Robinson
Bad bait, 3/10, too obviously disingenuous
Kevin Peterson
uhh the guns are illegal to have? criminals will need to hang up their registered firearms for good
Landon Wright
Oh, never thought of that. Good point
Bentley Mitchell
>flawed, inflated surveys and interviews (lol) in place of actual statistics and research, and blog articles with dead links to studies that were probably flawed too yeah you can fuck off until you produce actual data instead of opinion pieces
Levi Murphy
>gun bans remove guns from criminals
It does make robbing police vehicles and the like of weapons even more appealing, though
Countries where guns are common cannot be "controlled" into anything regarding them. It's better to make armed citizens common than to make them more difficult, as an armed society is a considerably more polite society...including not breaking into homes when there's excellent odds you'll be shot for doing so.
Elijah King
>i too get my world views from gifs posted on Sup Forums instead of empirical evidence and reality
That's pretty rich coming from a guy who just posted a ridiculous graph from the equally ridiculous Mother Jones but if you want to play it like that lets have a look at the studies posted.
Or we can look at Swiss crime statistics vs Mexican crime statistics.
Or since you like feels so much I guess I could ask you which feels better, cowering in the corner hoping the cops show up to save you from a hot dicking at the hands of a man with a gun, or having your own gun and shooting back like any reasonable organism would.
Wyatt Stewart
we're more concerned with the notion of oppressive government than we are of criminals.
Jason Gray
Well, looks like I'm btfo once again.
Adrian Parker
>Ban the guns, stop the crimes I'd rather get shot by a glock than get fucking gutted by a zombie knife in the UK
Oliver Martinez
THIS. You don't need a fucking gun. That's what the POLICE are for.
Angel Sullivan
austrian crime/murder rate works too desu, anyone over 18 can buy a wide variation of guns other than semi autos and they have one of the lowest murder rates in the country along with switzerland where only a background check is required to purchase most guns
Juan Diaz
*one of the lowest murder rates in the world
since im making another post here's a picture of the form 4473 (background check) americans have to fill out when purchasing a firearm from a licensed dealer
Noah Baker
>Guns are a plague in the USA Niggers are a plague in the USA FTFY >WITH GUN CONTROL >if an assailant enters my house with a knife/bludgeoning weapon Dumbass leaf thinks gun control stops criminals from getting guns.
Christopher Morgan
Oh, look, we have a retarded, statist poster.
Jace Davis
>Liberals mostly live in cities, which often contain ghettos >They're the ones pushing hardest for gun control Wow it's almost like they're scared of nigs chimping out or something. Maybe they should get some guns to defend themselves with.
Lincoln Powell
He literally gave you an endless sea of data to browse. I'm willing to bet you didn't click a single fucking link
What exactly constitutes "actual data" to you since you're so concerned with facts and observe truth? A bar graph with no source that looks like it was made in MS paint?
The Harvard study you linked even describes the inefficiency of enforcing gun laws.
IDK where you shills come from but calling you a narcissistic pseudo intellectual is a fucking understatement.
Please kill yourself faggot
Jacob Jones
but where is the statistics on prevented crimes? >s-shut up baka you can't measure events that haven't happened yet
Michael Young
>i am left with the emotional and psychological trauma that will potentially scar me for LIFE pussy
I've shot wild gypsies for less.
Logan Thompson
>the country that is equal 50 European states has more gun deaths No shit. Yall act like we're the average nation, we're not. We aren't just one state, we are the United states.