Carrier is a fucking talking point to use on his childish victory tour. He doesn't give a flying fuck about saving jobs. He only went there because he got CALLED OUT ON THE NEWS. And he literally admitted in his speech that he was watching the NBC report and saw the man who called him out and decided he needed to do something to avoid looking like a pussy.
Carrier was already going to keep hundreds of those jobs due to other pressures, so you can already subtract those from the ones Trump "saved". Then factor in the huge tax breaks he gave Carrier, and America still loses. That loss of tax dollars hurts this country when it's this deep in debt, and mathematically literally makes taxpayers equivalent to paying Carrier to keep those employees.
Carrier wins, no matter what. Not the people.
And for what? So that Trump could save face? What about hundreds of other companies? What about the ball bearings company that's practically right next to the Carrier plant that's also sending all its jobs to Mexico? What about the other Carrier employes who are still losing their jobs to Mexicans?
Why the fuck do you care about this stupid blatant publicity stunt? How does this possibly help Trump other than to retards who don't use their brain for five seconds? Or maybe that's the thing, most Trump supporters don't have enough IQ to use their brains, which is how he got elected in the first place.
You fuckers make me so mad sometimes with your retardation. Real people lose their livelihoods and all you care about is a "gotcha" point to use against liberals. Fucking pathetic.
Benjamin Fisher
Fuck off, loser. How many jobs did you save this week? You helped no one.
Samuel Flores
Trump didn't save any jobs, and neither did you, so suck my dick nigger.
Christian Taylor
>mathematically literally IGNORE ALL SHILL THREADS >saged and hidden get fucked, faggot
Benjamin Russell
FSB is still doing its job, I see. Gotta protect Trump until he's actually sworn in, right? Cause there's always that chance he won't actually get the vote.
Gabriel Ramirez
>don't steal 7 million from carrier >they will now keep 1000 jobs and spend many millions in Indiana over the next ten years >net tax bennifit to Indiana >community doesn't collapse do to loss of the major employer >that filters into the entire local econemy >all trump had to do was call carrier and ask what it would take to keep them
How can anyone have a problem with this. Company tax breaks happen all the time. Arizona just gave a 46 million dollar tax break to a car factory so they would locate here nobody complained
7 million dollar tax break for an air conditioner factory is a big issue because it's got trump's name attatched to it
Kill yourself you fucking loser
Hudson Nelson
Also
Why are you mad that carrier isn't losing? Carrier losing means the employees lose
The point isn't to win it's to come up with a mutually bennificial relationship.
God damn everything about your rant is just blatantly stupid
Ian Harris
i stopped reading after two sentences. your trolling efficiency is terrible. work on that.
Daniel Watson
>butthurt
Hunter Martinez
Tl;dr
Brody Sullivan
no it's because we're sick and tired of being told "what's right" by plebbiters in face of what we'd actually prefer. and what we'd actually prefer is for whining faggots to stop coming here with retarded suppositions that have no basis in reality.
Colton Martin
>tax breaks >come out of citizen's pockets pick one and only one, you fucking faggot
Austin Collins
>FSB not once was hillary clinton or her 17 "agencies" able to bring actual proof of russian intervention.
because it didnt exist retard
Nicholas Smith
Carrier will keep 1000 jobs in Indy for now just as PR move, Trump failed to mention the other 1000 jobs they are still shipping to Mexico.. Oh and right down the street Rexnor is shipping its 300 jobs to mexico too
Trump should be happy, more jobs in mexico means more money for his wall right? you know.. sense mexico is going to pay for it right?
Kayden Rivera
You realize he's not even president yet right?
William Cruz
The wall is being paid by remittances to mexico you low information faggot' as well, not only is carrier meeling 1000 jobs that were already slated to move before trump was even running, they are adding up to 10,000 more you butthurt loser.
Jaxon Robinson
Yes, so what does that change about anything I said?
Brandon Butler
Remember that Sup Forums literally worships Doneld Drempf. They won't question anything related to him even if it is wrong or in plain sight.
Joshua Young
The tweet said "envisioned" 10,000 more jobs. Carrier hasn't committed to add any jobs. But its nice that you take a tweet as a cold hard fact.
Bentley Jones
Lefties hate it when people win.
sad
baby
pathetic
Isaiah Jenkins
Panem et Circenses That's all that matters now OP.
Brayden Gray
>arbitrarily declare that it isn't good enough, "he didn't save all the jobs" "some other company is also outsourcing!"
Yet another example of liberals being basically petulant children
Mason Thomas
There is nothing wrong with saving half the jobs. That's 1100 families that still have a livelihood that's another American down that won't die due to a factory closing
How can anyone claim this is not better?
Christopher Ramirez
>Then factor in the huge tax breaks he gave Carrier, and America still loses. That loss of tax dollars hurts this country how much tax revenue exactly do you think an empty factory with 0 jobs generates?
you clearly have zero understanding of economics. this is what the next 8 years will be - liberal faggots cheering every lost job in the country
Luke Cook
>loss of tax dollars hurts this country Not if they would have otherwise gone to Babooniqua and her pack of niglets.
Joshua Gutierrez
Obama saved 1.5 million American Auto Jobs. Why haven't you sucked off that long black cock yet faggot?
Brody Jones
I love butthurt liberals so much Keep the hits coming guys
Jeremiah Hernandez
faggot the new factory is already built and carrier already had contractual commitments for the other 1,000. Trump came in at the 11th hour and saved half the jobs without giving up anything.
faggot 1,000 jobs is direct labor in factory. who supplies the parts? who delivers parts? who delivers finished goods? who cleans the johns? who supplies the paper/ink/pens? who provides security? where do they buy electricity from?
every factory staying in country props up much more that just the direct labor jobs.
Isaac Gutierrez
Don't try liberals don't understand what "tricks down" is
They think it's an economic model instead of a metaphore for how the econemy actually works
The just see 7 million for 1000 jobs
>and even if they were right I would rather the us spent trillions that way than on bombs and welfare
Isaac Reed
> saved auto jobs No he didn't. In restructuring they cut the number of workers and just paid the company to stay alive.
Isaac Price
How are you still getting paid?
Jayden Russell
>say youre gonna do x >media says youll never do x >do x >wow you only did it because they said you wouldn't
Jacob Moore
I'm just going by his own words, He talks about companies not moving out of the country without penalties, yet the very company that he touting as "saving jobs" is still moving a 1000 jobs to Mexico.
Nicholas Perry
>who delivers parts? Mexico >who delivers finished goods? That plant did make furnaces, but it will now be a "Center of quality" or whatever that means so probably will make sub-assemblies > who cleans the johns? Most likely contractors, they can do the same thing anywhere, its not like Indianapolis is lacking in service jobs. >paper/ink/pens? They contract that to Xerox > where do they buy electricity from? Indianapolis power an light (IPL)
I'm not saying that keeping the jobs isn't a good thing its just not going to work out like you think it will, and its not going to live up to Trumps advertising.
t. 20 years in manufacturing, Indianapolis native.
Kevin Powell
Thanks ctr
Chase James
fair enough, at first you sounded like one of these retards unironically arguing that saving jobs is a bad thing because trump did it
things rarely live up to advertising, but you need a bulldog in there threatening real repurcussions to these companies. he needs to go after companies like apple storing billions offshore too. i think he'll do a good job and wish we had someone with balls, not shaved balls with a pink bow like trudeau