/left/ General - Split the Money edition

Greetings Comrades!

This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

ABC's of Socialism: s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:
Anarchist:
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

Libertarian:
Mikhail Bakunin - God and the State (short read)
Thomas Paine - Agrarian Justice
Noam Chomsky - Notes on Anarchism
Anton Pannekoek - Worker's Councils

Marxist-Leninist:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

Other urls found in this thread:

rusjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/USSR_Cold.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=Dd_pIMGo4G8
youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg
youtube.com/watch?v=zIddCEBCKHQ
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

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neck yourself commie fag

ready

>tfw lefties and righties and uppies and downies are all angry and infighting instead of working together

difference of political views comes from difference of values, an objective difference which cannot be reconciled, now is the time to find ways to compromise and work together, not diverge and become more extreme

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Reminder that communsim was so bad that the Soviets nedded aid from the west.

rusjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/USSR_Cold.pdf

>Communism is a future state, after socialism
>it is desirable to have a classless society with publicly owned means of production
>let's try to do that, even though endless dictators have subverted the idea to increase their own power

In a nutshell what leftists think.
Also, they kulaks deserved it.

reporting in comrades

psst
read my general name
>split

>sweden cowering in his room shitposting on Sup Forums while radical rightist islam takes over his country
really makes me think

What's with all these democrats lately?

>communism includes the abolition of state
>the USSR had a state
wtf? I love capitalism now!

leftypol cant even come up with their own memes
come on
s*ged

Capitalist gets DESTROYED.
youtube.com/watch?v=Dd_pIMGo4G8

really gets the noggin joggin

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If that italynon that said they have seen more and more commies is in this thread, what do you think of and how well is the Marcora law working out?

>implying socialists are democrats or democrats are socialists
we're pro-gun for the upcoming proletariat revolution, we're killing liberals aswell

>Working together with the people who want to destroy you

whose quite is this? everyone who romanticizes warfare should read this

Pretty much the only point commies and fascists disagree on is seizing the means of production.

If you do that, you'll get your ethnostate with one culture. The longer you hold off doing it the more it will disappear. Removing economic migration from the situation leaves you with just tourists and fans of your country, and anyone that is there purely for economic reasons will go back.

Someone else touched on climate change causing massive social upheaval, well, seize the MoP and we can get on with solving global warming.

Every fucking time.

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we're not democrats and we're not liberals

ALL FUCKING FASCISTS WILL FUCKING HANG

Democrats fuck off

You cant do that.

The left and right are 2 completely different systems that could never be together by definition.

Who would have thought it, after several revolutions and then a protracted civil war the economy might have been in a bit of a shambles for a few years?

I dont get it, because the average rate of growth of the USSR was far faster than the average rate of growth of both imperial Russia and modern Russia. You can literally see it in the graph.

I dont get why this is unreasonable.

>Democrats
Maybe to influence their primaries, not much else kek

>meanwhile a canuck is cowering in his room shitposting on Sup Forums while a leftist leader is destoying his country

wew lad

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We're strictly against identity politics. We're against discrimination but if you're some liberal faggot who sees it as a priority over class struggle we're hanging you aswell.

trudeau is not a socialist, kill yourself

you're not reading what I'm saying are you?

Top post, comrade.

Remember to sage if you are going to comment. New fags taking the b8, go to the bar above options and type Sage and it will not bump the thread

Also commie fucks, why wont your ideology die, science already has disproved the blank slate theory so the corner stone of your ideology is gone. Kys

May i invite you to a ride in my Helikopter, "comrade"

Look who's raiding us.
>Look who's raiding us.
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see this is the kind of lack of understanding that I'm talking about

if you don't understand your opponent you will never defeat them, you'll simple exacerbate them

SJWs honestly see themselves as fighting for the rights of the oppressed and downtrodden, and that's not a bad thing.

it is, currently, together, and we're the top country on the planet earth, better than right-wing Russia and better than left-wing Europe

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You're really proud of your shitty meme, aren't you kiddo?

>implying democrats are leftist

Not my meme and not an argument. I could use other pictures to show we don't oppose gun ownership.

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>Capitalist Logic

>over 9000 hours in photoshop
:^)

FAILED JEWISH IDEOLOGY

8ch

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that is their coordinated effort

Fuck off faggot
Go back to /r/communism
We all know you are here to raid us

Why is this thread allowed here

Seriously, howis being left being politically incorrect

8ch

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Their raid thread. They're raiding us. Wow. Sad!

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>IT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM :DDDDD

youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg

ARBEITER BAUERN
NEHMT DIE GEWEHRE
NEHMT DIE GEWEHRE ZUR HAND

Die.

Stop idolizing that CIA-backed cunt.

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>raid
Posting opinions in one or two threads isn't a raid. That would be spamming all over the place. You know, that thing you guys do all the time!

You can turn it into a meme all you want, if you actually read Marx you understand his ideas have never been put into proper practise

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Hillary lost, get over it

>paranoia levels are getting dangerous in here
W E W

< faggot we can see you :^)

This. These threads should be deleted as soon as they pop up. They're a raiding attempt by /leftypol/.

this has already been debunked; means of production are privately owned in venezuela and there's a market-based economy

the definition of socialism in the .gif is from urban dictionary and not wikipedia

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GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY
Vuile communist

Kill yourself faggot

Leftists of all kinds will hang from trees under Trump

and jews are the rich wall street capitalists too, right?

nice doublethink

FREE HELI RIDES BACK TO CRIPPLE CHAN FAGS

>implying Sup Forums isn't 90% the_donald flyover

China describes itself as Socialist and it owns your country.

NEW THREAD!!!

>howis being left being politically incorrect
According to Wikipedia's citation of someone named Herbert Kohl,
>"The term “politically correct” was used disparagingly, to refer to someone whose loyalty to the Communist Party line overrode compassion, and led to bad politics. It was used by Socialists against Communists, and was meant to separate out Socialists who believed in egalitarian moral ideas from dogmatic Communists who would advocate and defend party positions regardless of their moral substance."
From this alone it should be clear how leftists could consider themselves politically incorrect.

There was a fucking thread yesterday with pictures of people from reddit saying they where going to raid Sup Forums you dumb faggot Your thread is derailed to hell, there are no arguments, its just a bunch of shitposts, nobody here will take you seriously

NEW BREAD GUYS

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youtube.com/watch?v=zIddCEBCKHQ

Video of times real communism/socialism existed

mijn broeder

>raiding attempt
>single thread
Just hide it you sensitive souls. If your ideology wasn't dogshit you wouldn't be so scared of an organised effort to make a single thread on a board with a high post rate.

NEW THREAD!
THIS ONE IS MADE BY A NAZI

your flawed ideology will never catch on here.

>>>/leftypol/res/1104283.html#q1108186

in the end all that will be left standing is a fascist police state.
deal with it and move on.

NEW THREAD GUYS!!

>these dutch socialists
help my country please

>class-cuck detected
also,the kulaks deserved it.

>what are democratic socialists

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Hello comrades

SEE
Fucking faggot

>impyling I, or any socialist likes Hillary
We aren't liberals, we aren't democrats, we hate identity politics. Educate yourself or kill yourself.

Why do Rage Against the Machine live in America if they're communists? Why don't they spread all their wealth and belongings equally? I always wondered that, now tell me, commie scum.

NSB DUMP

This poster is making multiple threads in order to have the generals banned.

Mods.

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WE AREN'T LIBERALS OR DEMOCRATS

At least two Probably more in a few minutes.

KYS

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>commie uttering the name of God

Really makes you think.