/left/ General - Hang Em High Edition

Greetings Comrades

This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

ABC's of Socialism: s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:
Anarchist:
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

Libertarian:
Mikhail Bakunin - God and the State (short read)
Thomas Paine - Agrarian Justice
Noam Chomsky - Notes on Anarchism
Anton Pannekoek - Worker's Councils

Marxist-Leninist:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

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neck yourself commie fag.

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long story short

commieshitsm will never work, just give it up

and the last one

so long fags

nice spamming, reported

This meme is 100% acurate

Jewish puppets get out now.

Didn't read any of them. Are you happy now?

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>implying it won't be the limp wristed pinko faggots hanging from the telephone poles
Bring it you fucking leaf.

>/sage
This is now a national socialist propoganda thread.

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Reddit unironically thinks they can colonize us. Leave while you can

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Communism is impossible, you're all retarded for believing in the political flat-earth.

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>theory inoperable until we reach a post-scarcity society
>doesn't realise that there will inevitably be THAT ONE GUY who flies off to a different part of the galaxy and builds a massive private empire for himself defended by an infinitely self-replicating robot army and doesn't let anyone else in just to troll everyone and laugh at all the commie bastards

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Fuck communism and fuck russian people

Jesuschrist there are 3 /left/ generals up right now. The invasion is real.

Fucking die.

Nice raid, faggots.

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Look at this faggot OP

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>>>/leftypol/

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S A Y I T W I T H M E

race based socialism is the future
if your results aren't similar, you are not fit for the fourth reich

Stalin did nothing wrong.

Even if he did, the kulaks deserved it.

we fought the wrong enemy

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Strasserism or go home!

A reminder your slave system will never actually work.

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THE KULAKS DESERVED WORSE!

F U L L Y

>strasserism
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>Strasserism is leftist.

You are welcome here, comrade.

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what the fuck does "ownership of the means of production" even mean?

communists forget that people already own the means of production right now, it's just that the owners are jews

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>they think they can successfully raid us
Keep trying dipshits, you will be ignored every time.

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go back to leftypol

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>the burger is so triggered he spams our own general multiple times in an attempt to get the mods to delete our threads

Looks like it didn't work burgerbro, communism will prevail

>le venezuela maymay

Also

>you're raiding us, you're raiding us!
>one thread, not even bothering you in your threads

>I'll know, I'll make it look like a raid!

WE'RE DOING NOTHING WRONG

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Sure thing Communism works well in Venezuela. Hey at least they get free food but they have to wait.

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fuck off faggot

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Yeah cause that thead circle jerking about your "comfy bunker" totally isn't talking about how the raid on Sup Forums is going.

Could Sup Forums be any more triggered, comrades?

>no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

>the means of production are owned by all and provide for evweryone's needs
>no state

In what universe do you have to live where this even begins to make any sense? 9/10ths of the economy is distribution. Who organizes it? How are scarcer resources distributed when demand outweighs supply? Why do towns that mine rare earth elements that kill many of them annually agree to distribute these goods for free to everyone while only receiving the necessities in return, when people with safer jobs in the cities or other towns receive just as much as they do?

How is any of this coordinated without a state or private enterprise? What motive does anyone have to be efficient beyond ensuring that their own in-group gets what it needs? What defines "needs" anyway, and how is that kept consistent across all areas without a state? What if someone decides that they privately own something, who stops them? With what army? What happens when inevitably the communal system fails, as it always has historically, and a township is forced to privatize and parcel out the farmland or goods just so that everyone can survive? How are criminals punished, where are the courts, and who pays for them and organizes them? If this is a stateless society who regulates environmental damage, who stops the Pennsylvanians from burning all the coal they dig up for cheap energy? Who stops the Californians from dumping mercury into the ocean?

How does Communism work? It sounds like every complaint that can be leveled against AnCaps actually applies double to Communism, because it's AnCapitalism except the government that doesn't exist is still supposed to give you stuff.

Please define what the means of production are
Am I allowed to privately own a hammer?

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woah hey guys what's going on here.

>Anarchism is left wing

Here, read some jewpedia. Educate yourself.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Means_of_production

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

It's right in the OP. But yes, you can own a hammer

KEEP FIRING COMRADES

It's not really left or right, but usually it's associated with the left except for ancaps

>less government is left
In what exact universe

Marx was an evil criminal whose ideology got its teeth riflebutted out. You will never seize the means of production, you will never be allowed to steal from me, and you will never produce a funny meme even once.

In other words, it's only private property if the Socialists want to steal it from you.

I've always thought that's strange, since there is not nor has there ever been nor will ever be such a thing as Left-Libertarianism. It is, and always has been, and always will be a canard to justify Leftism while it moves into position to establish the authoritarian state which is necessary to enslave the population.

>home, car, computer
these can all create economic value

>you can own a hammer
ok what about a hydraulic press?

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state
This one

I've been reading buzzfeed a lot lately

are there any other good sources of leftwing news?

And communism is thus enforced by?

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reddit

Sure, if you use it for personal use

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Yeah there's a thread here on it, I think you'll like it:

Too bad it will never come to be.

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What is this spookery I spy

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What is personal use?
Can I sell things I create with it?

reminder national socialism is in the red zone too :^)

reddit has already colonized Sup Forums, it's called the_donald