I'm looking for a legitimate discussion

i'm looking for a legitimate discussion
Sup Forums was never a natsoc board, but people used to shitpost as if it were. now, there are real people that believe in natsoc, and honestly believe in a true aryan race.

So, let me state a few points I believe to be true and feel free to argue against any of them.
Race is not a social construct, it is an attempt to classify genetic differences (I don't think anybody will argue this, but I go off this in my next few points)
It is important for the entirety of humanity to HAVE these races and genetic differences for the sake of evolution.
Globalization and the idea of a pure Aryan race are similar in the fact that they both go against the evolution of the human race and stand simply for devolution.
The many reasons that racists harbor emotions unto other races is in fact due to culture, and not genetics.
Many, not all, differences in races can be explained in culture.

I am against the homogenization of race for the sake of evolution. We can celebrate our differences and be proud of them, and we can work on our weaknesses and become stronger. The problem lies with toxic cultures, for example, inner city culture (black), trailer park culture (white), radical islamist culture (muzzies), etc

That being said, is the destruction of culture moral?

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Natsoc is communism

DO NOT DRINK THE COOLAID

You don't have to be a commie to prevent the cultural decline of the west.

There are still many of us who want a capitalist society with strong borders and strong morals.

Natsoc is for skinnyfat teenagers

>Sup Forums was never a NatSoc board
>said the newfag

Fuck off cunt.

Sup Forums has always been a NatSoc board.

Commie scum

australia i love you, never change
but i guess you're right. Sup Forums has ALWAYS been a natsoc board and never a libertarian board.

do you know where the term stormfag comes from?

>NatSoc
>gommie

o i am laffen

Lurk maor faggot

>do you know where the term storm-x comes from

Weak cunts scared to admit lolbergtardianism is inherently flawed and idealistic and kikes.

>moving goalposts
australia your arguefu is weak

i wasnt trying to argue which ideology was better, just that Sup Forums was never a natsoc board

Natsoc is communism for a single race.

>National Socialism
>Socialism
>Communism

Moral Capitalism is the only way to build a strong society.

Natsoc is for benefits scum

Libertarian nationalism is effective however. It's possible to set up authoritarian state that recognizes the liberty of its people. The rampant corporatism in fascist and nat soc states is almost no different from globalism. Ethnic isolation is more effective than killing people.

(OP)
>Sup Forums was never a NatSoc board
>said the newfag

Fuck off cunt.

Sup Forums has always been a NatSoc board.

>nonsense from plebbit: the post

Go home, kid

>libertarian
>nationalism

Pick one.

Why can't you faggots get over the fact it is a idealistic ideology that cannot be achieved without a racially homogeneous society?

>more effective than killing people

ARE YOU TRYING PLEBBIT

>people join the thread
>but dont discuss what the thread is actually about

thanks Sup Forums for making this pointless

This is the National Socialist in his natural habitat.

He has no skills. He has no life. He believes he is worth spending other people's money on because of his heritage despite the fact that he is a genetic squirt of piss.

Notice now the similarities between the national socialist and the communist.

Both are weedy, inbred parasites hell-bent on "activism". They screech in town centres to demand other people pay them just for existing.

Communism is a societal disease in all its forms.

>he has no skills. he has no life
>projecting your pathetic situation on a Burmese finger painting bulletin board

o i am laffen

You let kikes manipulate you, faggot, go back to plebbit where you spineless drones belong.

Contrast these with the capitalist.

The capitalist works toward self improvement and has built a business which employs others.

He earned his place in society and shuns the national socialist and the communist because they seek to destroy the meritocracy that makes his society great.

What do you do for a living Natsoc?

I'm in my office now waiting for my bread and butter to compile.

I pay more in tax than you earn.

Why the fuck should I pay for your failure? Tribalism?

>Capitalism
>Communism
good goy

>Sup Forums was never a natsoc board
It's been a natsoc board since fucking /n/, dumbo. They just were along with fascist, traditionalist lolbergtarians and generic cons. Just like it was since always a Christian board.

I swar to God these elections were pure poison to this board.

/thread

Did you invent a third way, Finn?

Natsoc is communism.

I would rather be free.

Kys

t. enoch powell ''conservative''
fascism is literally third way, taking good qualities from both capitalism and communism, raising up moral in society symbolism everywhere, families in tact, traditional family roles, traditions and tribe before economics. One organ for the state.

According to all polling done here since the times of /new/ it has been evenly split between NatSoc and libertarians/ancap, along with a few other rightwing ideologies (minarchists, monarchists, general reactionaries, etc.) Go look through the archives at the many many polls and you'll see how dumb your statement and this thread is. Saged.

>I make more in assumptions than I do in shekels

Why do you attack your opponents personal life, m80? Really is pathetic on an anonymous cartoon board.

>why the fuck should I pay for you
>why should I have to contribute to the upkeep of my nation and people

Why are you such a selfish cunt? Take, for a second, yourself out of that multicultural hellhole that is the UK, and imagine a homogeneous nation full of your own people working towards a common goal of bettering your people and future generations. If this were the case, would you still have a problem supporting those in need?

>no before you fuck out I'm against welfare in its current state

With everyone having a purpose, the class struggle literally is non existant since you're all helping the state, not yourselves, you're not also creating an oligarchy which communism leads to.

Natsoc in practice is no utopia.

Hitler had thought police who rounded up political prisoners.

I don't want to live in a society which can only survive in the absence of open discourse.

I can't stand the idea of the state misappropriating my hard earned money to spend on a parasite.

Just to illustrate my point if you swap the words "fascism" and "communism" in your argument, it sounds like Soviet Russia.

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I basically agree.

Racial difference made the world interesting. Yes, this is due to divisiveness, difference, people NOT LIKING OTHER PEOPLE, etc. It serves a function, a beautiful, aesthetic one. And in order to belong and relate, you have to have that which you not only have in common but those things and people that you don't share commonality with.

Trying to push people together isn't working. What we're seeing now is that people don't accept it. Immigrants in Europe want to stick to their own, hate the host cultures. Whites raised on anti-racism from childhood, experiencing multiculturalism now see it's alienating and low-trust and are rejecting it, "muh holocaust" warnings be damned.

We need to acknowledge that different races are good. There is indeed generally no need to hate others, EXCEPT it's a visceral, natural response when others encroach on and threaten to swallow your own. In that case, I'm fine with pushing racist populism as an effective corrective to the problem. The ends justify the means, because racism has no taboo value to me, it's just a funtion in nature and I kinda like its results (cultural difference, vibrancy, 'place', aesthetics).

You attacked me telling me I was projecting instead of refuting my argument which I will remind you was:

Natsoc is just communism by another name.

Natsoc takes taxed wealth and redistributes it among the intellectually weak.

>Muh shellfish

I got mine. Go get yours. I'm not stopping you from learning to code.

Fucking cuck.

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this this this
the stormweenies on Sup Forums don't have enough self awareness to realize that if Hitler was alive he would most certainly be disgusted by a very large proportion of them (anime masturbators, fat neckbeards, social autists, retarded fedora atheists etc.) and would most certainly euthanise some of them - but they still heil Hitler despite that inconvenient truth.

The irony lies in the fact that Sup Forums-based stormfaggots and TRS morons accuse liberals, centrists and conservatives of having "cognitive dissonance" and "being manipulated by outsiders (in this case jews)", but fail to realise that they are projecting.

This is my political view, I think it is better than national socialism:

“Nationalist Libertarianism”

combine no hate speech laws, freedom of association, no income tax, absolute freedom of self defense and bear arms rights, bill of rights, no government surveillance, as little taxes as possible, no bureacracy, total freedom of education, separation of church and state, no war on drugs, due process, jury nullification, no welfare in whatever way, habeas corpus, freedom of euthanasia and abortion, a strict ban on the government borrowing money/making debt, no national bank, maximal property rights, no eminent domain, no stop and frisk, private instead of public prosecution,....

with a ban on foreign immigration, a ban on marriage with /adoption of foreigners, a ban on foreigners owning land or arms, a strict law on the official language of the country, which the government should only use, excluding other languages in the public sphere, fixed cultural national and local holidays, a year of mandatory military service coupled to high school graduation, citizenship/nationality is based on blood/ethnicity, voting right only for those who are married, own land and have served in the army honorably, allegiance to the flag, no legal protection for communist parties, death penalty for high treason, protection of national fauna and flora,....

In other words: Maximal Liberty and Maximal Nationalism.
A national socialism without the gestapo, the mindless worshipping of the state, the excessive taxation and regulation, ...

A libertarianism without the open borders, dilution of culture and race, globalism, loss of national sovereignty...

>durr its communism
except abortion and feminism was promoted to the fullest in soviet russia, individualism even though they were working in a hive mind because they were afraid to be put in gulag camps.

dont just insult them, they are making good points. they just happen to be misinformed

nice trips

This.
It's the only reason this board and /new/ existed.

We can CAPS LOCK KIKE AND NIGGER all day long and not really break any of this sites rules. We can SHIT post nigger hate threads all day long. Why do you think BBC spamming began? As a butthurt reaction to the white power on this board.

I admire that you took time to start an actual discussion thread. But as someone who has been here since forever, you are wrong OP.
very wrong

>Muh minor social differences

They are functionally identical, you retard.

>tells me I have no skills or life
>projecting his lack of skills or life

laffen. That's not an argument plebbit.

>NatSoc is (((communism)))
>being this retarded

Are you even trying?

>muh redistribution
>muh leeve me alown guberment
>but fix me oads

Gas yourself immediately and go back to where you belong.

>national libertarianism
>oxymoron

What the fuck is going on.

can someone do the pol flag with the four lead clover around the circle like wreathes
I reckon it would look legit

So basically America before the bullshit.

You, my friend, are a classical liberal

>not an argument

not an argument

who's laffen now?

>Sup Forums was never a natsoc board

>Sup Forums was never a natsoc board
>If I say so it must be so
Fuck off to 8gag

>Sup Forums was never a NatSoc board
Howtospotanewfag.jpg

>not another memebertardian

still laffen lad

Why don't you move to Somalia m8, seriously? Is it because your idealistic lolbergtardian society cannot exist in real life and it's only ever real in the minds of frustrated plebbit cucks scared of taking the red pill?

One is a system to attempt to break people down, one is to lift them up.

Who's projecting now?

nigger was only a funny because there wasn't any on the internet until 08/09
hitler didn't do anything wrong was just edgy
but it turns out that he kinda didnt

Commies believe communism lifts them up

Natsocs believe Natsoc lifts them up

Commies believe Natsoc breaks them down

Natsocs believe Communism breaks them down

They are functionally identical.

I just gave you a causation and correlation on why commies actually do not lift people up, traditionalism is shunned, atheism is praised. You also had no argument on how fascism brings people down.

You can't call systems identical if they means are so vastly different.

>not an argument

who's unable to explain why they don't move to the lolbergtardian / ancap paradise that is Somalia?

>face level analysis
>meme-expert confirmed

Top laff

Capitalism is objectively superior to socialism

horseshoe butthole

Capitalism has good ideas, but always leads to crony capitalism, corporatism is easily avoided by fascism since the goal is not to acquire power and wealth for corporations, but the state itself.

Its a jewish system for what it eventually leads into.

>The problem lies with toxic cultures
Nope.

>thinking (((socialism))) is NatSoc

Try again, NatSoc was quite capitalistic.

Fascism is corporatism

False equivalency. I can't believe anyone is still unironically in this thread. You are so clearly uneducated on the topic you're speaking about, it's actually strange you're so opposed to an ideas in which you clearly demonstrated such utter contempt of any knowledge.

You could do this retardation with any opposing ideologies. Ironically you also just acknowledged that Communism and NatSoc are opposed despite your constant claims otherwise.

>Libertarians believe libertianism lifts them up.

>Statists believe the state lifts them up

>Libertarians believe the state breaks them down

>Statists believe libertianism breaks them down.

>They are functionally identical! WAKE UP SHEEPLE

Though you did just accidentally show that NatSoc is in fact not Communism. I'll clue you in kiddo; NatSoc doesn't have a strict economic doctrine other than all business must not be harmful to the state. Communism does have strict economic edicts.

>his ideology literally has the word socialism in it
>hurr but its not real socialism
piss off

Corporations would never have more power on decisions on running the state, corporatism in jewish run USA leads to lowering wages by bringing 3rd worlders like mexicans to your nation.

This

Commies actually believe that is good the same way you believe what you believe.

Fascism, from a communist perspective, breaks people down by stopping them from getting abortions.

I don't think its healthy for the state to have a moral standpoint. Its job is to protect itself to maintain the freedom of it's citizens.

I don't want to be told what to do. I know what's right so leave me alone as much as possible. Fascism breaks people down by forcing them to act the government mandated way rather than letting the strong make society better and letting the weak do their thing and eventually die.

>Has socialist in it's name
Marxist(semitic)-socialism has nothing to do with economics, socialism is about how society works.

>breaks down people
nice meme, but eventually if you don't have fascists who give society norms and ethics you get degeneracy like today.

Not a libertarian, gaylord.

Natsoc is still commie shit

they use money
it must be capitalism

its referring to the way germans naturally organize themselves, not just an economic thing

>legitimate discussion
>presumes to declare what Sup Forums is, was, and what posters actually believe or do not believe in

eat such a monstrous flaming racist dick, faggot

>morality
>good
I am also against complete homogenization, but race mixers should be shot for treason since they are destroying our race

No shit, a libertarian society is only possible with a homogeneous white country. Having soldiers on every corner isn't a healthy society. Taking away your own people's rights ignores the history of the French revolution. We are european, we are individualistic, individualism is key to our dominance and innovation.

>unable to comprehend the meaning of a meme

Struggling m8

>NatSoc is still (((gommie)))

Do you know how retarded you are.

It's the moderators.

Many based threads get deleted.

Degenerate threads are promoted.

pic very related.

>(((the enlightenment)))

No thanks m8.

>individualism is the key to our dominance

Is this a joke?

Sameness leads to inward looking people. Do you want to end up like the Ming empire? The enlightenment can be compromised to be traditional. John Locke had this idea.
And I am not an egalitarian and know that there is difference between the races.
Britain wouldn't have been to the most innovative country in the world without the rule of law and the roman legal tradition.

National Socialism is an ideology that disgraces the individualistic and republican history of our nation. White nationalism and National Socialism are not the same thing, saying the federal government should control everything is the same regardless of the justification.

>moral
>capitalism
Pick one and only one, eternal anglo
TRIPS
OF
ABSOLUTE
TRUTH

>Sup Forums Isn't a NatSoc board
>Pic. Related is our flag/logo
>Not NatSoc

Get out, Commies. Reddit, your motherland, calls you.

I understand you.
You'll probably find this video unironically informative.

youtube.com/watch?v=X25OnF3TQys

Not everyone is weak minded you hairy spic.

National Socialism isn't Jewish Socialism.

Don't embarrass yourself, or your kin.

State Capitalism is code for communism retard

This guy.

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>what is
>Hugo Boss
>Porches
>BMW
>Mercedes
>Puma
>Nike

The list is so endless

Lots of the best most successful brands in the world came and developed in Nazi Germany you weak cunt. >hurr natsoc is JUST SOCIALISM AND THAT DOESN'T WORK OFC BC... SOME BROWN PEOPLE ARE SHIT WITH IT LMAO??

Weak a f famaladingdongbingbong

The rampant corporatism is why I disagree heavily

>sameness
>in a homogeneous society

Shocking m80.

>Ming empire

We are European and prosper under strong rulers / governments / monarchies which is we have been under most of our history. Only recently have we given in to this (((democracy))) and the everyone deserves a vote type of mindset which is cancerous and promotes division.

>(((individualistic)))
>I just want freedom of expressing and unrestrained hedonism guize

Grow up.

>capitalism code word for (((communism)))

What the fuck is going on here.

>still barking
You got btfo kiddo heh
"Moral Capitalism" is an oxymoron.

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>Sup Forums was never a nat soc board
Followed by some pulled out the ass opinion.
I wish faggots like OP would at least provide some prove in form of archives or memes, but nah, just shitting even more in what was is and will always be an ocean of shit

That pic sums up what I think of libertarians.

very funny.

>What the fuck is going on here
He's just confused as shit and can't even begin to define any of his terms and getting systematically ravaged by his prison colony is messing with the old chap's fuses, limão

>yes yes just destroy your nations history and start some new big government socialism

Sup Forums was indeed a natsoc board and still is and shall remain

Nationalist producer(not jewish speculator)-oriented capitalism is the way to go

Be honest, how much time do you have until white america erodes?

are you mong? what is wrong with libertarianism as default, and just include a bunch of racialist laws in the constitution?

just because it is not a pure ideology, but a pragmatic one that seeks to reconcile two concepts doesn't mean it is by definition an oxymoron

-30 years. It has already happened