What's wrong with communism?

What's wrong with communism?

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It's stupid bullshit that advocates the genocide of the poor, and I want to be poor.

everything

Any dispute at all is a threat to the entirety of communist doctrine, which means everyone needs to have the same opinions and goals, which can only be achieved with censorship, reeducation and gulags, which means big government, which means social and political hierarchy, which means no communism.

It is built to fail according to economics.

"Mises had argued in a seminal article published in 19201 that productive
efficiency was contingent on knowing the real prices of the factors of production,
since without such prices it would be impossible to know how to rationally
allocate resources. With all productive resources owned by a central
authority and in the absence of market- generated prices, the calculation of
real costs would be impossible and thus render production essentially random.
To these conclusions Hayek added the notion that the market was itself essentially
a discovery process providing information that would otherwise not exist
on the relative value of goods. This information, he contended, could only
be supplied by free markets since it was impermanent and widely dispersed
among a host of individuals, many of whom were not even aware that they
possessed any relevant knowledge, knowledge that emerged only as a product
of the market process itself."

The Constitution of Liberty, FA Hayek

Communism can't work in a multiracial society. Why would you go to work and pay for niggers to get free phd's in white genocide?

Why work at all? There's no incentive. It only works if you love your fellow countrymen and your country.

It doesn't work.

Vallase a la verga, puñetero.

this is why

There are as many different versions of what a "communist" ideology is as there are communists. Please explain to me which particular brand you are talking about and maybe I can answer.

It can't work in a capitalist soceity

That's full of shit considering that the resources and time spent making a product are as much if not more of a factor of the item's market value than the demand for it in the marketplace.

Labour value theory has a basis in reality, it's just not as all encompassing as traditional Marxists want it to be.

That it counts people as homogenous mass without self-interest or conflicting needs.

wrong. Even buzzfeed knows how full of shit that is. demand controls the value.
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>Labour value theory has a basis in reality

It exists.

Its ignorant of human nature so all it really accomplishes is that it upsets old power structures however good or bad and replaces them in the vacuum with violent psychopaths who crave only power. From day 1 after a commie revolution, every single man worth a shit is out there trying to exploit it so he has a leg up. Makes it devolve into totalitarianism. Then they start killing smart people because the smart people are a threat to power, and academics try to farm using Science! without actually knowing anything and millions starve.

Will NEVER work with our population density and resources.

Maybe when we are mining the asteroid belt and government is controlled by an AI. Until then it's a pathetic liberal pipe dream and all of its supporters should probably be hanged or dipped in an acid tank or something idk fampai lol

Stop replying to those threads idiots

If an item costs more to make and manufacture than consumers want to pay for it then the item doesn't stay in the marketplace. It's as simple as that. It's not one dimensional faggot.

Just because communists have tunnel vision doesn't mean that everything they say or believe isn't factual or wrong. Pull your head out of your ass.

Jewish commissar overlords. Daily ration of carrot. Degenerate waifu who works with other short hair dykes in factory. Bratty children who reports you to state police.
T. For gommunist paradise gay cunt

It doesn't fucking work, how often does this need demonstrating.

No. My ass is German and therefore superior.

Is this why you give it to refugee dicks to enjoy?

It takes a lot of self delusion

Sage thr faggot marxists

sage

Failed everywhere

And there you've hit the nail on the head. The demand for the product - e.g. how much they want to pay for it - controls the success of the product. Thusly you have proved me right by admitting that demand is a more important factor in the market value of a product than what was put into the product

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>That's full of shit considering that the resources and time spent making a product are as much if not more of a factor of the item's market value than the demand for it in the marketplace.
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How much it failed should be enough of a warning sign.
Every country that touched communism ended up a shithole.

>it's always this dumbshit Spaniard
Franco should have killed your grandfather

>Just because communists have tunnel vision doesn't mean that everything they say or believe isn't factual or wrong
It doesn't directly imply that, but by pure coincidence everything they say or believe is actually factually incorrect or just plain retarded

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I'll admit I waded into this without realizing that in effect the argument is over definitions of a word more than the argument itself and simply concede the point to you.

I cant and won't argue someone's opinion on something when the argument doesn't have substance, I'm not in the same boat as most on this board.

commies are the scum of the earth and should all be killed

It's a huge idealistic leap that's incredibly far from being possible to introduce. You can't just convert a capitalist society in that way when the global society has different pressures.

I think communism is just a populistic idea to get workers to fall in-line with a ruling elite that promises some kind of utopia. Like it's pretty much just a bait and switch tactic.

I'm saying this as a progressive too. Fuck communism.

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Their whole viewpoint is based on these points:
>people are shaped by economic status (class) and people of the same class are all the same
>everyone is 100% good goy, and will accept a subpar existence as long as everyone else does too
>because the industrial workers are the ones most important in the economy, they would be best fit to govern every aspect of the country
>all people are equal and deserve the same benefits
>people will work in a state-owned factory or field to produce state-owned goods that they will get the same amount from regardless from their input with the same efficiency as they would on their own property to produce their own goods or in a privately owned property for higher wages for higher input

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>definitions of words
wrong. You made the claim that market value was more influenced by the time and resources put into the product than by how much people are willing to pay for it. You then affirmed my statement by stating that if the market value of a product becomes too low, then it will not be sold. However in the world of labour value theory, that would not be able to happen as the value of a product is fixed and only variess with great manufacturing innovations. Labour value theory is tripe and is one of the main reasons that communism doesn't work. In short, try harder, leftypol.

What's wrong with unicorns?

TO THE GULAG

Everything, fuck off you won't convert nobody here you fucking idiot hijo de puta.

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the best system is 50% communist and 50% capitalist

this is hard for both rightards and leftards to understand

Explain the reasons for such an abomination of combining polar opposites

It doesn't work

Nothing, except that it doesn't work.

Capitalists can have their competition and values, plus a mindless consumer base that doesn't ask questions. Like Starbucks.

No, it's not. That creates an impossible autocratic bullshit system. Socialists and social democrats of the Weimar republic tried exactly that. It was so inconsistent and corruptible that it paved the way for Hitler. In truth, civil liberty needs to be guarded against the poor as well as the rich.

That's the jewish globalist endgoal

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This reads like something off of I'm 14 and this is deep, what does is this drivel even supposed to mean?

what does*
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Communists are what's wrong with communism.

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Why do people keep making commie threads if all it does is reiterate why communism is bad?

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I don't know but I've come to enjoy them and watching people fuck them up over and over.

>That's full of shit considering that the resources and time spent making a product are as much if not more of a factor of the item's market value than the demand for it in the marketplace.

I hate communism but what you just said is plain false and frankly retarded
Try to say that sentence to anyone who knows the basics about economic theory and they will laugh at you

You.