So who exactly is jewing who?

So who exactly is jewing who?

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Fake news
Palin hasn't counter-signalled the Carrier deal

politico.com/story/2016/12/sarah-palin-donald-trump-carrier-deal-crony-capitalism-232139?cmpid=sf

In anop-edfor the website Young Conservatives, the former Alaska governor allowed that the details behind the manufacturer’s decision to keep some 1,000 jobs in Indiana at the president-elect’s behest, rather than move them to Mexico, are not yet clear. But touting the value of free markets, Palin signaled her disapproval if it was a case of “political intrusion using a stick or carrot to bribe or force one individual business to do what politicians insist.”

Doesn't seem fake to me.

The only thing I take away from an article like this is that the left apparently values Sarah Palin's opinion all of the sudden. I think I know who's jewing who.

Not fake, every major news outlet is reporting it.

Apparently keeping jobs in America is now crony capitalism. God I fucking want every globalist to die.

>Not fake, every major news outlet is reporting it.
yes because major news outlets are so accurate these days

>Sarah Palin
>Globalist
At what point are you going to give up on the name calling and identity politics? You'll cause Trump administration to fall the same way the Democratic party has.

She's confused. She doesn't understand nationalism. She still thinks it's 2006 and libertarianism has all the answers.

>Suddenly the media cares about what Sarah Palin thinks.
>They'll write 6 million articles about how she is a wonderful person
>She'll come out in favor of the deal a few days later
>They have to write another 6 gorillion hit pieces on her then
>They lose even more credibility
How the fuck can they not see this pattern?

>The only person who tells the truth is Trump
Seriously, where do you get your information from if you don't trust the news?

Sarah Palin matters more because she's probably going to part of Trump's administration. Libs won't suddenly like her.

I mean sarah palin is a retard but shes right. I can't believe you fuckers are praising trump for this, I voted for him but come the fuck on. Its just a blatant publicity stunt, 1000 jobs means absolutely nothing and he did nothing to fix the actual market trends which make companies want to outsource in the first place. What are we gonna do, give a bailout to every single company who wants to outsource jobs? See how that fucking goes

like I said, I voted for trump, not even a shill, but this is such a blatant PR move and not even a particularly well done one either

Not supporting keeping jobs in America = globalist

Direct quotations, of which this isn't.

>he did nothing to fix the actual market trends which make companies want to outsource in the first place

He's not even president yet, dumbass. She's not right either. Family > Money.

Thank you for correcting the record

>give 7M in tax exemptions to keep 1000 jobs
>$7k per job
>unemployment alone would cost the government more than this

based palin taking drumpf to task

Claim: Trump's Carrier deal is 'crony capitalism'
What was actually said: Palin signaled her disapproval if it was a case of “political intrusion using a stick or carrot to bribe or force one individual business to do what politicians insist.”
>keyword is IF
False news is FAKE news.
I don't even know why I come here anymore.

Haha call me ctr all you want, I still think trump is going to be a good president but you lose some credibility if you just dickride everything he does regardless. And I know hes not president and can't introduce a bill yet, my point was it is certainly a PR move more than anything.

Is she a pornstar yet?

its a good thing, don't get me wrong. but it's a bandaid, doesn't change what caused the problem in the first place, and if you don't see it for a PR move then you must be blind. It just frustrates me to see all you fuckers completely lapping it up

Don't worry user
We all truly understand how (((concerned))) you are.

If? Isn't that exactly what it was?

>She doesn't understand nationalism.

She understands just fine, like any good member of the GOP she knows that capitalism and free markets are the solution not the problem.

If you think this is the end of fighting between trump and the GOP think again. Trump is going to need popular support beyond his base or congress is going to do their thing.

Watch the TPP pass next without objection from trump

>but you lose some credibility if you just dickride everything he does regardless
source?

Very much appreciate you correcting the record.

>Trump just killed TPP
>But it's going to pass next time because iuoytdfkjhgfd.

Fact is:

1. jobs were lost to Mexico
2. Carrier benefited from tax cuts as well

THE NEGOTIATOR, Trump really knows how to come up with these deals.

ayy lmao

Are you retarded? He isnt in power yet, he cant do anything except bandaid. It seems everyone else on this thread sees this.

Wilbur Ross, his pick for commerce, just came out with a pro TPP letter saying jobs are not coming back from china.

TPP is not dead

>doesn't change what caused the problem in the first place
You mean the things that a president elect can't change like a tariff free deal with mexico?
You know what if the government could spend $7k to maintain a job in the country and it was their permanent solution it would still be a great fucking deal.

I don't dickride everything he does. Keeping jobs in the US before he's even in office is good damage control. He helped his vice president's state and you minimize the deal at 1000 jobs but you don't consider the investment aspect of that. You don't understand business.

>he can't read
In anop-edfor the website Young Conservatives, the former Alaska governor allowed that the details behind the manufacturer’s decision to keep some 1,000 jobs in Indiana at the president-elect’s behest

Unless any info has come out its still fake news.

fun fact I am actually jewish

really if you can't acknowledge any of trumps downsides you're just as bad as someone who thinks hillary is god. A person who actually thinks might, idk, question the presidents actions sometimes? I 100% doubt that ANY political candidate completely matches your views, but everythings binary here. You either LOVE TRUMP or you are a CTR SHILL. and can I say that that sort of divide, the belief that everyone who believes something different than me must be a retard, is the cancer killing america from both sides

>signed a letter in support of the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal in 2015
>2015
oh wow it is fucking nothing

>I am actually jewish
What a strange coincidence

>Not being able to Compromise for the good of America

This has been the tactic that the oligarch has used to keep us fighting over petty ideological nuances instead of dealing with the major issues of the day

While the citizens and lower levels of government squabble over gay marriage and .002% budget cuts the real power players debase our currency send our jobs over seas and fight proxy wars

I'm so sick of this shit. Oh my god! Trump arranged an incredibly run if he mill tax incentive to save a factory. This happens daily around the country, it's how business works in the us

You want to end it? Change the tax and regulatory burden, which hopefully trump can do.

>his pick for commerce
>vs Trump himself
Following your logic he's also going to declare war on Iran because of Mattis. Also a source would be nice. I'm half expecting it to be a (((trustfull source))) from the MSM.

in her op-ed she literally says
>Gotta have faith in the Trump Team

MSM spinning shit as usual, don't fall for it

Direct quote? When Trump says anything, you fags just accept it as fact or him playing 4D chess against the media. All that does is allow him to lie and manipulate the American public without consequence. You don't give a shit about what people say.

lost count of how many layers of chess we have reached

It's funny how all these concerned trolls think people will just buy it that secretaries can just do whatever they want completely disregarding the president wishes

Wow, what a totally meaningless reply.

Isn't it early for this sort of bait?

Considering that the government not stealing your money is now considered a "subsidy" I question whether they're talking about actual subsidies (i.e. the government handing you cash) or not.

>being this new

That's because quite often when he does something that seems stupid it turns out to really be 4D chess. Like that audio that turned out to have been leaked by him or the more recent example of him mentioning safe spaces.

>Also a source would be nice

Why any source every posted is declared fake press. Do you see how harmful that is to actual discussion. Everything is dismissed out of hand here. Its a cult of personality

The very fact Trump is doing rallies instead of reading security briefings shows he is going to let others do the governing, he has said has much himself. That is how he runs his company by delegating.

If you think congress and the rcih are going to let TPP die and give control of far east trade to china you are delusional

that's what the Republican party said about Obama bailing out the American auto industry, yet now they're parading Trump as some sort of conquering hero for keeping *1000* jobs in the US.

Alright see this reply actually argued my point instead of calling me a shill, this is how discourse is supposed to happen. Maybe you're right and it probably is worth it, especially for the favor it will by him with the establishment repubs in congress. But it really doesn't set a good precedent, he cant just keep bailing people out when hes in office. Maybe he BTFOs some trade agreements that put some things in our favor though

>When Trump says anything, you fags just accept it as fact or him playing 4D chess against the media.
Im sure that has nothing to do with the year and a half gauntlet the media put him and by extension all of his supporters, through

>implying America doeant already have crony capatalism

>he cant just keep bailing people out when hes in office
if they are all good deals like this one he actually literally can and should
also
>giving tax exemptions
>bailing people out
If you weren't so either intellectually dishonest or just a fucking idiot maybe people wouldn't call you a shill

This.

Crony means in favor of USA???

So there's nothing Trump could say that would make you reconsider your support for him? You'll just accept it's part of some grand master plan that he won't tell anyone about? Why should we intentionally allow our president to non transparent?

>Why any source every posted is declared fake press.
Give it a try. Unless the source is stupidly biased I won't complain.
>The very fact Trump is doing rallies instead of reading security briefings shows he is going to let others do the governing
How much is it until he takes office? About a month and half? He has time. When he reads those won't make much difference.
>If you think congress and the rcih are going to let TPP die and give control of far east trade to china you are delusional.
A possibility is that TPP is going to be replaced by something more likely to be accepted.

>if they are all good deals like this one he actually literally can and should

So individual companies can hold peoples jobs hostage for special tax breaks just for them?

You give incentives to industry, to business in general.

Furthermore what is the incentive for the business to keep their word, there is no enforcement mechanism. They could kill those same jobs in the next few years and keep all the benefits

this about sums my thoughts up too
you guys take it too far with the dickriding, of course the auto bailouts were on a much larger scale but it is the same policy people were butthurt about from obama. but its not even a major player in our economy, its 1000 jobs we're talking about.

if you think thats a smart way to run an economy have fucking fun, because corporations would have a greater stranglehold on the feds balls than they do already

I think the issue here is Trump's incentive is the wrong kind. Giving massive tax breaks is crony capitalism.

>increasingly destructive tax policy for decades
>increasingly destructive trade policy for decades

Trump reduces some of the destruction

"ITS A BAILOUT!!"

A bailout is for a BANKRUPT company/industry

A. Carrier was NOT bankrupt
B. Carrier is NOT getting a gift of money

REDUCING the destructiveness of decades of bad policy is a good...no a GREAT thing for ALL companies

I would die a happy man if I could fuck the shit out of Sarah Palin

Yup... exactly the same thing... other than Obama gave away billions of tax payer's money and Trump just cut taxes. Same EXACT thing though. It's the same as shoplifting and buying something on sale... both the same exact thing.

>I voted for trump

This meme is still around?

>So individual companies can hold peoples jobs hostage for special tax breaks just for them?
They're not really holding it hostage for tax breaks, they are doing because it's cheaper to use cheap labor in mexico and import shit back to the us tariff free. The government is trying to stop them and using tax as leverage.

>You give incentives to industry, to business in general.
If only he had a plan to cut business taxes as a whole, oh wait

>They could kill those same jobs in the next few years and keep all the benefits
No they can't. If they don't honor their part of the deal the government has no obligation to keep theirs.

>because corporations would have a greater stranglehold on the feds balls than they do already
currently they just move all their factories outside of the US, bring the finished product there tariff free and sell it
Please explain to me how can it get worse?

I think the bigger part of the deal here is his willingness to say that their parent company would lose government contracts if they move out of the USA. That's a perfectly acceptable threat.

That said, I'm not happy if they're getting tax credits, it's not ideal, but I think it's only something like 7 mill over a decade? But still, when our companies are the most highly taxed in the entire first world, giving some tax breaks to encourage a company to stay isn't the worst thing. We might have to invest in a few bandaids to stop the bleeding before we can turn back the exodus of industry. Palin has a right to criticize this, but she's not lambasting him so let's not go all (((media))) and pretend she's the new Romney in her criticism.

Detroit bailout saved a lot more manufacturing jobs, and in part helped to stabilize the economy in the long run.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Carrier the same company Trump was berating for not paying enough taxes? And now he's giving them tax breaks.

>"Palin signaled her disapproval if ..."
>IF
saged for not posting an archive link, fuck your clickbait you paid shill faggot

Didn't she step down 2 years prior?

>Why should we intentionally allow our president to non transparent?

ask Obama

This is a special case in that Carrier had begun the process of moving out of the state years ago. Indiana tried to offer them tax incentives when they first declared their intention to leave but declined because nothing the state offered was worth it at that time because of what the parent company perceived the future of US regulatory policy would be. Their facilities in mexico are already near completion, so to ask them not to move before even having any real power was a tall order. Even with that, he still got them to reconsider, and the state offers a relatively small tax break packages as far as state incentives go to get it done.

>
>Detroit bailout saved a lot more manufacturing jobs, and in part helped to stabilize the economy in the long run.
Actually if history is any indication, it might have caused things not to crash as hard, but made a full recovery almost impossible. Coolidge had similar problems during his presidency, but he kept the government from doing anything. His recession lasted a little over a year.

Obama gave a trillion of tax payer money (not just a tax credit to those companies and banks) to bail them out and "stimulate" the economy and we've seen jack shit of that back and now those companies are moving jobs out of the country.

>And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Carrier the same company Trump was berating for not paying enough taxes? And now he's giving them tax breaks.
Carrier is run by fucktards who wanted Trump to lose so he didn't play hardball with them for 8 years.
Anyone who berated Trump for not paying taxes was a hypocrite of the highest order. Doesn't matter. He wanted those decent jobs to stay in America regardless of if it helped shitty employers.

Only brainwashed idiots think the deal Trump made was great. It's objectively a terrible deal.

> encouraging business to succeed is crony capitalism.
> Paying auto companies and banks billions of dollars for failing is not objectively a thousand times worse

Okay.