Wisconsin recount observers discover five vote counting machines with tampered seals
With the Wisconsin statewide recount now fully underway, designated election observers have been monitoring the hand recounts of the election officials. Many of the observers who have been designated on behalf of third party candidate Jill Stein are sharing their first hand recount experiences on her official website. Most notable among them: one observer who reports that five of the nine voting machines in her county had tampered seals – and she posted visual evidence to prove it. The observer, named Wendy, has been observing the recount in St. Croix County. According to the state’s official election website, that county is currently doing both a hand recount and a machine recount. That’s what makes it notable that Wendy spotted the broken seals on five of the nine machines in question. Based on the photographs she posted to Stein’s official campaign website, the broken seals themselves come with the warning label that “Removal of seal voids warranty.” Take a look at one of her photos below: palmerreport.com/news/wisconsin-recount-observers-discover-five-vote-counting-machines-with-tampered-seals/345/ jill2016.com/wendy_st_croix_county
There has as of yet been no explanation from Wisconsin officials or St. Croix County officials as to why the majority of vote counting machines in the county have been visibly tampered with, and no one noticed during the original vote tally. It’s possible that these seals could have been broken by a hacker who was reprogramming them to produce rigged or false vote totals, and it’s also possible that an election worker could have simply pried open the seals for some unknown reason that didn’t involve malicious intent. But in any case, the broken tamper seals stand out as alarming – and could serve as legal fodder for expanding the scope of the recount. A judge ruled that there was insufficient evidence to force every Wisconsin county to do a hand recount, and that each county could decide on its own whether to do hand recounts or machine recounts. Sixty of the seventy-two counties have voluntarily agreed to do hand recounts. However, of the twelve counties which refused, Donald Trump won nine of them. These tampered seals could be used to convince the judge to order the remaining twelve counties to do hand recounts. If you enjoy Palmer Report, consider making a contribution: palmerreport.com/news/wisconsin-recount-observers-discover-five-vote-counting-machines-with-tampered-seals/345/
Eli Thomas
>republicans winning in spite of democrats tampering with machines. Why do you think it took so long for them to call Wisconsin and Michigan in the first place?
Kevin Smith
False flag
Zachary Davis
>The observer, named Wendy
You are retarded OP, how do you know it wasn't Wendy who tampered with the seals?
I mean, who the fuck even is Wendy and why would you trust her
Cooper Bailey
Now the absentee ballots haven't been counted yet, but Hillary is down 11,000 votes!!!!!!! Trump is down too but it's only by about a thousand. Could easily be made up by the absentee ballots.
But even the guy in the vid admits, that Hillary would need practically ALL of the absentee ballots to make up for this 11,000 discrepancy.
Again, it doesnt matter, if they get her to 270, if they take the states out, it it will have to go to the senate, Republicans own the senate.
they choose Trump
Trump wins.
Hillary cannot cheat her way to a win, no matter what
Now if the democrats controlled the senate it would be a different story
But they dont, so its over' Trump Wins
Ayden Martin
anyone could have (((tampered))) with them after the election. they should have checked right after, not a month later.
also the fact that it was noticed by Shill Stein's designated (((observer))) and posted on her site should tell you something.
Jack White
It never was about taking the election from Trump, is about building voter base for the next elections
Matthew Reed
Senate chooses vp, hose with state delegates chooses president of the top 3
Easton Scott
This.
They are trying to legitimize Trumps win, not steal it from him, but cast doubt on voters to make him fight harder (for reelection possibly)
Isaac Martinez
Fuck, to clarify the house has 50 state delegations made up of the corresponding representatives of the state. To become president you need to win 26 of these delegations. This means California and Wyoming have an equal say.
Blake Gutierrez
It would just rock my socks off if the machines were tampered with deliberately to rig the votes...
...in Hillary Clinton's favor.
That would be awesome.
Jonathan Green
Didn't Jill Stein come out and say "Trump will not win" last week?
Thomas Gutierrez
I never heard that. There will be serious hell to pay if they try to take it from him.
Leo Nelson
>Trump wins >Hilldogs tamper with counting machines to make it look "rigged"
Juan Long
>seals broken >this couldn't possibly have happened after the election
Julian White
>warranty seal
That basically means nothing, this machines are how old? 13 years?
That they don't get at least serviced once would be a surprise to me. What a surprise would be for me is that there are no seals form an election commission that get placed before every election. If there is doubt, test it.
>Sixty of the seventy-two counties have voluntarily agreed to do hand recounts. However, of the twelve counties which refused, Donald Trump won nine of them.
kek this is another BS statement,
Hillery won 13 counties, Trump won 69
thats a ratio of 82% to 18% for trump
the ratio of who don't do hand counts are 75% to 25%
This actually benefits hillary.
Jeremiah Diaz
come to think of it, I wouldn't be at all surprised if voting machines in all the blue states turned out to be tampered with.
That's exactly the kind of thing a social justice advocate would do; rig the election in their favor to assure the votes leaned in the favor of the non sexist, non racist female candidate.
Jason Miller
>cont.
>see source >palmerreport
into the trash it goes.
Parker Murphy
So is this the smoking gun that Steins operatives are breaking seals?
Luke Williams
also should be 59 not 69.
Parker Brown
Drumpf is finished.
Jack Johnson
Guy who voids warranties here, You dont fuck with the warranty seal, break it, and then leave it there. If you fuck up the seal, you remove it and hope people dont notice.
Also, warranty seals are painfully easy to remove intact and reapply later. Theres literally no reason to leave a mess like that other than wanting to get caught or it being a nonissue. Committing voter fraud isnt a nonissue, this is staged/10.
Logan Jenkins
Another fun metric
23% of all hillary counties refuse hand count. 15% of all trump counties refuse hand count.
Really accelerates the marbles.
Thomas Evans
lol i hope wendy goes to jail
Robert Jenkins
Great sources there OP
Dylan Barnes
This.
Good luck with your sabotage efforts, cucks. Can't wait to see how it works out for you.
Jose Sanchez
>Republicans own the senate. >they choose Trump >Trump wins. they're all cuckservatives.
Blake Carter
If I enjoy Palmer Report - so another pathetic attempt at begging for money. Jill Stein already made over $7 million that she'll "use" for the Green Party...when will this constant begging end.
Leo Jones
Like they didn't poke them when no one was looking, and if not then some jackass during the election.
Ayden Wilson
This was the very first thing I thought when I opened the thread. Ludicrous.
Eli Adams
yfw all of the tampered machines were rigged 51 49 towards hillary.
Chase Campbell
Before election >There an absolutely 0% chance of election rigging. After republicans win >Holy shit guys there might have been election rigging!!!!! When are we going to purge leftists?
Bentley Nguyen
False flag, we don't know if those seals were not broken by one of the recounters.
Zachary Morgan
>green party milf harvesting cash from democrat dupes
Jack Williams
Looks like there is Hillary fraud in Pennsylvania.....
Takes a little bit of effort to get through the math but tge clear Hillary fraud is there....
Stein and Clinton wanting to legitimize Trumps election makes zero sense. Try again.
Levi Bennett
Hello there, I'm a former temporary ESS DS850 operator. The machines in these pictures are DS200s. These are the machines that would have been used at polling places to take people's individual ballots. It is technically possible that they might be used for a recount, but they would have to be the most moronic people on the face of the Earth to use them for that. Using these machines to do a recount would be like using a simple flatbed scanner to scan out tens of thousands of documents. The DS 850 - -ESS' high-speed tabulator would be used for a recount - - it is capable of scanning between 6 and 7 virgin, unmutilated ballots per second. What I suspect is going on in these pictures is that some idiot is taking pictures of tabulators that are sitting off to the side waiting for repair, or are just sitting in a stack of tabulators because they aren't needed aright now- - the election is over, all of the polling places where these machines would be are disassembled, and these things are just stacked in back somewhere. In the event that a county desperately needed tabulators, ESS offers a rental service for these very same units.
Eli Brown
This is a total scam. Even the green party has distanced themselves from Stein for this bullshit.
>The Green Party’s filing came Saturday, saying it couldn’t afford the $1 million bond the court had set. A Commonwealth Court hearing had been scheduled in the case for Monday, and the $1 million bond was due later that day.
>reach funding goal >can't afford the funding
jesus thats kikery of a new level.
Ryan Jones
It may be because stein isn't working with the green party on this, somehow. They've (the party) recently distanced themselves from her shitshow
Jason Hall
Fuck off with your consensus breaking.
This is our reality and Sup Forums is not going to listen to anybody or believe anything that doesn't confirm to our beliefs.
just because facts are presented as a "blog," doesn't make them false.
cry harder, nerd virgins.
Leo Miller
>blogs >facts
John King
Former ESS machine operator that posted a couple posts above you. I didn't spend very much time around DS200s to see if any of them had this particular seal on them, but I do know that ESS will not certify results if aftermarket or unmaproved repair methods are used. For example, they would not certify results from their machines if you used a generic flash drive as opposed to their 4 gigabyte one that they wanted a buttload of money for to store plain or write in results. Any sensible supervisor of elections would have this machine put aside if a manufacture warranty sticker was broken until the area ESS repair person came and resealed it and inspected it. Then again, the whole story is bunk - - they wouldn't never used these machines to do a recount.
Joseph James
No offense but personally whenever I see the word blog associated with something the first things which pop in my mind is "tumblr faggot, amateur, not official, loser, 999 times out of 1000 complete bullshit". I assume it's the same for a lot of others too.
Jace Walker
de-legitimize i meant
Benjamin Morris
aww shit. i payed her in the hopes it would expose democrat voter fraud
Gabriel Bailey
please stick around and police this thread
Isaac Phillips
Autism
Ethan Nelson
Their should be a professionalism about someone claiming the USA election was tampered with. If the last blog entry was about their aborted fetus funeral not being subsidized it's just a huge joke all around.
the head of the RNC is fucking chief of staff, they will fall in line or lose funding in next election.
Alexander Hughes
hmm its like someone lost an election and then fucked up the seals to get (((recount)))
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Joseph Harris
ESS voting machine guy here-- I might just go ahead and make a trip code for this thread. They're pretty much two ways you are going to vote in the United States: either with a ballot that is like a Scantron multiple test form, where the voter bubbles in their choices, and a machine reads them, or electronically, in which case the voter presses buttons on a voting machine, and the vote gets stored like data. For a recount of the Scantron forms, the forms will get run through the machine again, and somebody will verify the number of ballots run to the number of ballots received. For electronic voting, somebody will attempt to do an electronic analogue of the same. In a hand recount, a human being goes and individually inspects the ballot question for the race in contention. In Florida - - if I recall correctly, a .5% difference between the totals for a candidate triggers a recount, and a .25% difference between the totals for a candidate triggers a hand recount because of what happened in the 2000 election.
Jonathan Taylor
Thank God, these people are saving the whole frigging world. Seriously guys it was funny and all but we can't allow Drumpf to be near the nuke codes.
Nathan Garcia
i cant wait till they force her to win and she declares war with russia within a week and all the whiny baby liberals have to fight russia, along with them getting nuked mid flight to russia its going to be a swell fucking day.
>flag captcha with cross on it i think its a sign
Hudson Butler
hilliary will destroy this fucking world within a month you damn rat
Gabriel Rivera
10 feet higher
Nicholas Turner
>Decades old machines need maintenance >Maintenance can't be performed with plastic shell over components
Retards
Luke Howard
As someone who's had to return shit out of warranty before, all you need is a hairdryer and razor blade to get past this.
Jacob Powell
Fuck off tripfag nigger faggot
Landon Sanders
>who the fuck even is Wendy Get a load of this nigger.
Evan Brooks
Well then herp the fuck derp.
Nolan Kelly
>that feel when retards are allowed near computers
no, yeah... i totally agree. just not with the part about trump.
Christian Ortiz
>Palmer report >using propaganda blogs in 2016
Aiden Sanders
That would only work for so long. For the machines depicted in the pictures - - ds200-- the voter's ballot is deposited into a sealed box below the machine after it is scanned. I'm not an expert on the state of elections in America, but I do know that more often than not, most supervisors will run calibration ballots through the machines before, during, and after the election. Any discrepancies will result in that machine being immediately taken down and inspected for malfeasance. Most places segregate ballots by voting location so that if something suspicious happens, all of the ballots run at that location on that day can either be Machine rescanned, or hand counted. Personal anecdote - - my supervisor attempted to change the programming on one of the machines after the election so that we could sort ballots to make an audit go smoother-- the audit was going to be of a question that was located on one of the two ballots each Florida voter was given, so he had us rerun the ballots after to separate them into two relevant piles, so that the audit wouldn't go on forever when we had to rescan them. When he attempted to upload the change into the machine, it locked up and wouldn't restart until we consulted with someone from ESS-- I believe that's one of the security features on the machine. I'm no expert witness grade person when it comes To voting machines, but paper ballot manipulation - - in this day and age - - is pretty well protected against.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Here's a picture of how the machine depicted in the web link is used - - the ballot gets deposited in a box below
Colton Hughes
I suspect the guy you're replying to was referring particularly to Bev Harris' semi-recent claims. I haven't personally reviewed them, but past claims of hers have in judgment as a something of a security-minded guy presented adequate (and in my opinion obvious) cause for concern that I'm not sure has been adequately addressed.
In any case, thanks for your interesting contributions.
Nolan Green
I had seen videos where the tabulators were recoded to reallocate votes as they were scanned those systems were older than the ones you described. Also, there's the issue of electronic only voting, which is the Bev Harris reference from the other user. They can literally just edit the votes in Microsoft Access since that's the backbone of the database system.
Luis Jenkins
Just as a BS aside Take a look at the post that I made above the reference for your post - - the picture of the ds 850. At the right-hand bottom of the cart is a dot matrix printer that comes with all of those machines. If I even so much as tried to change an unimportant setting- - like which Precinct I was scanning - - that printer would spit out a line, and a comment about the change would get saved. The ds200 - - the machine that were talking about in the web link didn't have a dot matrix printer, but it did have a receipt printer that also logged information. In any reasonably run voting area, any discrepancies in those logs that someone found would result in dozens of supervisory people having Strokes, the machines being taken out of service, and entire voting locations worth of ballots potentially being rerun by other machines. I really didn't know how safeguarded and thoroughly reconciled voting machines were until I had a chance to work with the ESS units. I'm not saying that every voting machine in use in America is worth a damn, but most manufacturers will try to safeguard the Integrity of the process by means of the features they put into the machines
Xavier Cooper
>New evidence indicates Russians had the IPs of several state's central election headquarters.
BTFO T F O
Ryan Green
>most manufacturers will try to safeguard the Integrity I would hope so. Oddly enough, two of the more questionable bits caught on tape in Bev Harris' old HBO documentary Hacking Democracy were poll workers throwing away receipts and manufacturers having some pretty damning testimony in court.
My brief experience with poll workers has always been positive in terms of their integrity (although not always their ability to notice things they should be noticing), but that's a pretty small sample and a voter's view of the process.
Xavier Fisher
I went into that process pretty skeptical about how secure the voting process was, but now I don't really worry so long as there are paper ballots involved. Then again, I had absolutely no experience with electronic voting machines, so I can't say anything about them. Then again, Florida might just be on the ball because of our high concentration of non-citizens, and what happened in the year 2000. Another anecdote: we received a mail-in ballot with a write-in vote that combined the first name of one candidate with the second name of another that was listed on the ballot. Example: there were two hypothetical candidates on the ballot, one named John Brown, and one named Jim Kaminski. The write in on this ballot indicated the voter voted for for John Kaminski. The canvassing board actually went and tracked that voter down and found out what their intention was. I would not have believed it if I didn't see it myself.
Samuel Wood
Cont.
The canvassing board example I gave you is not from a small County - - we processed over 250,000 mail-in and absentee ballots prior to the end of the election.
