I hope Sup Forums doesn't actually buy into the "global warming is a hoax" crowd. You know it's an obvious obfuscation created by super wealthy corporations that stand to lose trillions if fossil fuels go away, right? There is so little disagreement amongst the scientific community that it's a big newsworthy deal when one of them does come out against it, like when a black guy supports Trump. Climate deniers have moved the goalposts from "climate change isn't happening" to "it is but it's not man-made" and now we're at "ok it's man-made but what about China?"
>inb4 Al Gore flew in a plane once therefore global warming isn't real >inb4 there is corruption tied green technology companies. That doesn't mean it isn't real.
Allowing billions in climate change research is wasting money that could've gone to job creation, economy improvement, and space exploration.
Clean Energy is a waste of fucking time. We found fossil fuels on distant planets, and were planning to expand our business across the universe.
Aiden Jones
>massive climate change happened over 10,000 years ago. >climate change is caused by automobiles.
Pick one faggot.
Jose Cruz
Just because the climate changes naturally doesn't mean that we should also change it artificially with pollution. >massive sustained pumping of climate changing molecules into the atmosphere will change the climate who knew?
Julian Walker
>climate changing molecules into the atmosphere
Oh dear.
Adam Turner
>man made GHGs account for 0.01% of all GHGs in the atmosphere >There hasn't been a single model that has correctly predicted climate change based on human action >Ice caps are growing when they were predicted to be gone by now >97% of scientists agree meme
Kevin Reed
nice rebuttal, it's almost like you have no science on your side
Jose Turner
>>massive sustained pumping of climate changing molecules into the atmosphere will change the climate
Hey, for a couple of years there was almost a correlation!
Evan Cox
>>massive sustained pumping of climate changing molecules into the atmosphere will change the climate
etc etc
if CO2 actually had an effect on the climate, we'd sure as hell be a lot hotter than we are now
Tyler Price
I have logic and that's more stable than your science.
Jaxson Murphy
>stable Well, when you're consistently wrong for more than 30 years, I suppose your science could be called 'stable'
Kayden White
>logic >for a time, temperatures and CO2 concentration were rising >so obviously CO2 was causing the temperature rise because correlation means causation!
Since then, long periods of negative correlation. CO2 sets a new record concentration each year, but we have cooling periods
>b-but climate cycles
If natural climate cycles, which are not clearly understood, easily overpowered this hypothetical CO2-driven increase, then perhaps we need to know more about these cycles. Who knows, the recent warming might have just been one of those!
Levi Hughes
It really was remarkable. All these people who "know science" couldn't figure out that correlation does not imply causation.
The other big fallacy: consensus is not science. Pic related.
lol projected record cold temperatures in almost every square mile of america this winter
Mason Hernandez
>if CO2 actually had an effect on the climate, we'd sure as hell be a lot hotter than we are now
Its like you think this argument was never shot down
Alexander Hughes
>I assert thing A causes increase B >data shows thing A sets new record every year >B isn't increasing >for periods of time, B decreases while A continues to increase
How do I shoot down people pointing out that, at the best, thing A doesn't seem to have any effect on thing B?
Aaron Jenkins
fucking kill yourself for being too stupid to live.
your fake science isn't wanted here, gobemouche.
Blake Nguyen
whatever, oil shill.
Caleb Scott
funded by communists.
Carter Sanders
You retards always post this. That's only covering Antarctica. Globally ice sheets are still losing ice at a rate greater than Antarcticas gains. Its gains hardly make dent in the percentage lost.
Jaxson Lewis
>it's cold where i am that means it cant get hot anywhere else How do people still think this kind of stuff
Joshua Campbell
>funded by communists >who want to prove that climate change exists >T-THAT ICE DOESNT COUNT
Parker Harris
>must be time to file for more grant money to prove a predetermined result.
fuck you, moron. kys
Jack Davis
>fossil fuels Jesus fucking Christ. Every fucking time. WHAT fossil fuel?! Oil is NOT a officially NOT a "fossil" fuel and hasn't been for years. The concept of "fossil" fuel is an unproven jewish theory anyways. If methane is a fossil fuel then why is Saturn's moon Titan full of it?
Daniel Thomas
>oil shill
Who do you think stand to benefit the most from cap and trade?
Those niggas will get massive credits for their industry, which they can then sell for outrageous profit. Moreso if they then move into "clean" energy, reducing oil production and freeing up more credits while increasing the supply/demand price of their oil, and then making even more money from selling those freed credits to actual productive industry.
Hell, the original Obama cap and trade proposal had the market being practically administered by energy companies
Energy companies are jerking themselves raw at the concept of climate legislation.
Adam Powell
Yes, but the earth can change the climate at a massive rate from things like volcanos. Also you should explore geoengineering.
Jaxon Lee
That's not what I said.
You know that Antarctica is not the only ice sheet right?
>people still believe hydrocarbons are decayed plant/animal matter >despite them being found in massive quantities on lifeless planets >and easy to produce using processes like the Fischer-Tropsch system, which is basically a manmade simulation of the lower crust/upper mantle >and huge numbers of oil wells producing out of 5000+ feet of solid granite, under which nothing ever lived
Ayden Wood
>MAH JERBS! Fuck up boomer
Nathaniel Wright
>Climate deniers have moved the goalposts
>Climate deniers
>CLIMATE DENIERS
The climate does not exist it just a hoax.
Blake Rivera
Yes, and you will never guess who is to blame.
Elijah Jones
This is why they had to start calling it climate change. Retards hear "global warming" and say
>but it cold here!!!
Fucking a.
Luis Bell
How to know when something is not as it seems:
Is it a topic commonly discussed on MSM? Does the MSM have a favorable view of the topic? Do they attack dissenters? Can the topic be used to incite fear? Is there a lot of money invested into the topic? And finally, the most important of the criteria: Are politicians involved in the topic?
If all of the above is true then there is a 99% chance you are being lied to / manipulated for some unknown reason by the powers that be.
James Perry
...because methane can synthesize in more than one way?
Zachary Lopez
Fuck off faggot. If God didn't want me to leave the lights on then he wouldn't have given me a good job. And if our Lord Jesus Christ didn't want me to waste so much petrol then he wouldn't allow us to constantly fuck with the Ragheads and drain all their oil.
Ethan Morris
Once again...
Sup Forums: The (((MSM))) is controlling the masses with the meta in news stories!!! Protect your mind!!!
Sup Forums: (((Climate Change))), (((Carbon Tax))), and ((($ustainable Energy))) are not scams used as another bogeyman to frighten the masses into action or compliance. The (((science))) is real and not taking action now is equal to that of Pascal's Wager.
Henry Gonzalez
Science is not consensus, but as I'm not a climate scientist I don't really think I have the knowledge of statistics, chemistry, etc to judge for myself. NASA tells me there's anthropogenic climate change and I believe them.
Aaron Watson
No it isn't, and it's not global warming, it's global cooling and it's because of our Sun.
Julian Parker
>it's duh joos
Levi Lopez
to be fair we just outsourced our pollution to them
Juan Phillips
Congratulations, you just commited treason. Expect a visit from the FBI very soon.
Easton Powell
Sure, if that's what you want to call them.
Daniel Sanders
tfw a major volcanic eruption leaves Al Gore fondling his dick in fear
Joseph Diaz
there is a way larger share of climate change deniers in the MSM than in the scientific community
Mason Gray
Doesn't that work the other way around? Global warming is a battle of corporate interests either way. My main issue with global warming is basically the state of the ozone. If the ozone is still okay and doesn't show signs of fucking up, then things heating up or cooling is probably natural.
Landon Martinez
>falling for the ozone meme
Aaron Sanchez
Why do you think we can only artificially impact the ozone layer but not the rest of the atmosphere?
Christopher Sanders
This. All the "doubt" comes from fossil fuel industry lobbyists, shills, and benefactors.
Everyone should be forced to have a tattoo of their cumulative lifetime greenhouse gas emissions on their forehead.
Robert Gomez
This hole thing is no problem, I got your back op. If we could get everyone in the us to turn there air conditioner on plus leave the doors and windows open we could have this fixed in a jiffy. See you got to think outside of the box OP if you really care. Like instead of deporting people why don't we just kill them and feed them to the poor. Think how much less pollution that would make with all those people gone and all those poor people fed. Just body heat alone that's got to add up to alot plus all the heat and pollution generated from the resources they use which is got me thinking what if there were no people in Africa, I bet that would save alot of heat generation and reduce the pollution by alot. We should probably throw the climate researchers on that list too since we wont need them anymore. Who else should be added to the list?