/left/ Leftist General: Not The Obvious Fake Thread Edition

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This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

ABC's of Socialism: s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:
Anarchist:
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

Libertarian:
Mikhail Bakunin - God and the State (short read)
Thomas Paine - Agrarian Justice
Noam Chomsky - Notes on Anarchism
Anton Pannekoek - Worker's Councils

Marxist-Leninist:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Start the thread off with some comrade sanders

The other thread is a really obvious false flag, with the IDpol picture

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reminder: leftcucks are worstcucks
Traitors will be firs to die on the day of the rope

Have you embraced free software and installed GNU/Linux yet user?

traitors to who?

it's time for a revolution comrades

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Why is Sup Forums leaking

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There's lots of jewry on this thread.

How many of you are prepared to be gassed?

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go away u antisemite classist scum

Free Software is inherently against private property (in the marxist sense of the word), so is socialist.

down with porkies

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I appreciate Bernie's socialist leanings but lost any respect I had for him after he laid down like a bitch and let Hillary get the nomination

We need communism for free software to thrive

uprising when comrades

seize the MEMES of production lmao

I don't know if you think you're "triggering" us by posting these, but by all means keep them coming. It might help people realise that we're leftists, not liberals.

fuck rich people

wow lots of SPOOKS itt

There is no difference between leftists and liberals.

REAL communism SOON lads

>tfw socialism

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FUCK PRIVATE PROPERTY ITS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT

>I appreciate Bernie's socialist leanings but lost any respect I had for him after he laid down like a bitch and let Hillary get the nomination
Trump is a fascist and Hillary is slightly less fascist, I'm not going to drink bleach because the restaurant doesn't have Pepsi.

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BREADLINES SOON, COMRADES

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RACE IS A SPOOK, WE ARE ALL THE SAME

KEEP UP THE MEMES COMRADES, WE'RE CONVERTING THEM FOR THE GLORY OF MARX!!!!

Trump signals a move toward anarchy, toward revolution. He is a necessary evil

Recommended reading material for my wife's boyfriend? He's a hardcore capitalist scum but I want to try.

>The problem can only be solved through economics

ANDDDDDD

It's a straw man.

Fuck off Commie.

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HOLY FUCK READ STIRNER YOU IDIOTS

GOD FUCKING DAMN /left/. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR BOARD.

/left/

FUCKING CLASSKEKS GTFO

RIP CASTRO YOU WILL BE MISSED

> Utopian ideals that millions have died for will win.

Reminder, sage goes in all fields.

BRB GUISE GOTTA DISTRIBUTE MY BREAD CRUMBS TO THE COMMUNE

almost forgot

forgot what? :^)

Bernie was obviously a plant to Hillary and now he's just desperately trying to stay relevant.

>posts Mussolini
>doesn't know Mussolini wrote for a Socialist newspaper

Sad.

tl;dr

Have you fags ever even lived in a communist country? There's a reason ALL of the United States Cubans are celebrating castro's death. Fuck that guy, and fuck communism. You ignorant fantasizes

Commies are useful idiots. Look at what Soros is doing with them in his Colour Revolutions. He's profiting off of them.

#FEELTHESTERN!

No, there has never been a communist country, so that would be impossible

Yea so we gotta wake them up. Violence is not okay

>what is Cuba

Boy

Do the workers in Cuba own the means of production, and is it a stateless society?

Just got my first tattoo this evening guys, inspired by the /left/ community!

"Workers" Yup. That's what Castro says.

Taxation is theft. Why should I have to support you parasite fucks?

So you admit they don't? Then it fails to meet the requirements communism, thereby making it not a communist country

There is no taxation in communism

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everyone's potential opportunities and personal endeavors are taxed in communism, which is why only the weak idolize this ideology.

What's standing in the way of your potential opportunity and personal endeavours in communism?

I just said Castro says they do. Idk what the fuck that even means honestly so I can't give u a definitive yes or no. But according to Castro, they do

So you're saying 'fuck communism', but you don't even have a clue about what it is? kek

I suggest you at least read the OP

Castro says it's a communist government. fuck Castro, so fuck communism

KEK get outta here with ur bullshit theories.

emphasis on success of the community instead of the individual

the community should come first, and the success of the individual will follow

So why is communism working so wonderfully in Cuba? Enlighten me

but you see, that doesn't really mean anything.

>the individual should come first, and the success of the community will follow

you can flip it around and it's still a linear thought that is potentially true. i guess my question is, why exactly should the community come first? in my opinion, the inefficient community typically creates the discontent required for true innovation and genius to prosper, and in the end the community benefits from this.

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>doesn't know Mussolini was Socialist when he was younger
>...and changed his mind and eventually helped change the world.
Bless that glorious bastard. Fuck you for wiping shit on his image.

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why are you fags here posting shut about communism, you know absolutely nothing.

there is an actual leftypol, you may fucking learn something unlike on reddit.

leftypol is anarchy-syndicalists, not even thought autistic fucks that we are still believe in gommunism.

Waiting for u to answer me on howcome communism in Cuba is working so wonderfully

You can't defend a collection of Indivuals without defending an individual first.

Can you be a leftie and still be nationalistic?

This nigger gets it.

JP II called this Personhood.

>unironically calling trump "god-emperor" and saying liberals want to give the president unlimited "athority"

Was the USSR nationalistic?

Wait don't answer that, your school system has probably told you that they were pansies even though they won WWII for you.

That's what national socialism is.

State/collective > God/Individual

Really though left right spectrum is retarded though. Even with the y axis add it still isn't very good.

Oh, another one. Why is communism working so great in Cuba? Just curious cuz it ruined a great country and destroyed so many people

Compare Cuba to Haiti and get back to me famalamadingdong.

Wut

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The types of rulers who institute communism do not want to help people, they want to give themselves the most power as possible. The public should own the means of production, not the government and not individuals.

There are two types of people: Those who have read the communist manifesto, and communists.