/Italy general/ next legit steps

Congratulations everyone. KEK be with you.

>PM Renzi has resigned after his Constitutional reform was rejected by a majority of voters during a long-due referendum.
>He did not really have to. After all, laws are a matter for the parliament. Even so, he decided to take the vote as a vote on how much trust people put in his government.

Now what?

FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT EVERYTHING THAT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE SOLUTION 1 OR SOLUTION 2 IS AN OPEN ATTEMPT AT CREATING AN OLIGARCHIC DICTATORSHIP, SO THAT THE PEOPLE SHOULD REACT APPROPRIATELY.

## SOLUTION 1 ##

>The President of the Republic acknowledges that the current electoral law is unconstitutional, as ruled by the Italian Supreme Court
>He dissolves the two Houses
>Electoral system reverts either to the last lawful one or to the proportional system
>People vote a new Parliament
>The President of the Republic hears proposals from the Parliament and appoints a PM with the duty of making a new (and legit) electoral law as a decree of urgency, so that the Parliament has to discuss it asap.

## SOLUTION 2 ##


>The President of the Republic hears proposals from the Parliament and appoints a PM with the duty of making a new (and legit) electoral law as a decree of urgency, so that the Parliament has to discuss it asap.
>Once this is done, the President of the Republic dissolves the Houses
>New elections are done with the new electoral law... considering the current one has been ruled to be unlawful by the Supreme Court.

FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT EVERYTHING THAT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE SOLUTION 1 OR SOLUTION 2 IS AN OPEN ATTEMPT AT CREATING AN OLIGARCHIC DICTATORSHIP, SO THAT THE PEOPLE SHOULD REACT APPROPRIATELY.

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i think solution one is the best way to go.

so basically solution 1 abolishes the italicum?

>IS AN OPEN ATTEMPT AT CREATING AN OLIGARCHIC DICTATORSHIP

this is what we need. ITALIAN HITLER WHEN

>101545354

M5s today has 35% consensus, basically the same as other major parties.

I don't know what to expect, seriously, in Italy we have seen so many fucked up coalitions with the unique purpose to keep mafious and corrupted politicians occupying their seats and keep their privileges...everything can happen, seriously, like a super coalition in the style of GOOD (m5s) vs EVIL (other parties).

JUSTICE WAR

...

Italian civil war when

I APOLOGIZE, PASTANIGG-I MEAN PASTABROS AFTER ALL THE BULLYING

The new President of Italy most be berlusconi!
He's friends with Putin
He was a friend of Gaddafi
It's humanly near trump
He's good at making deals in foreign policy
It's fuckin' funny.
Is redpilled

We know what would happen.

## SOLUTION 3 ##
>President of the Republic picks one of the two previous options
>M5S throws another tantrum
>indicts another referendum
>someone fucking finally murders Grillo and his band of retards

There is a lot of work to do italybro, but for now, get some sleep, we earned it

are italians seriously thinking leaving the EU would be good for them? are italians suicidal?

Please remember
>now we have Italicum
>Italicum was meant to replace an electoral law that was declared unconstitutional in December 2013
SAUCE: reuters.com/article/us-italy-law-unconstitutional-idUSBRE9B30YW20131204
>problem is, Italicum itslef has been approved by a Parliament that was elected with the above-quoted unconstitutional law
>even without considering the current Parliament has been unconstitutionally elected, Italicum itself has enough problem, so that the Supreme Court might declare it unconstitutional too

TL;DR:
>Italy's Parliament has been elected by means of an electoral law that has now been declared unconstitutional
>Such (unconstitutional) Parliament has approved another electoral law
>This latter electoral law is possibly unconstitutional too

ELECTIONS NOW!

no that is why they have to leave to keep the sand niggers out. this isn't their first sand nigger invasion

we would be better off actually

>people still unironically want to stay in the EU after what's happened to Germany and Sweden

its kind of like leaving an abusive relationship, its not easy, but must be done

decentralizing power pays off in the long run imo

>ELECTIONS NOW!
Salvini was rambling about it on RAI just now desu, I suppose FI and Grillo will join him pretty soon.

So whats the % chance they dissolve their parliament?
How big a habbening is this? I have no idea what your government is like

Italianbros, are there Trump/Brexit tier tears on social media and Reddit right now? Can you share and translate some of it, if that's the case?

>EXITALY WHEN?
EXITALY WHEN?
>EXITALY WHEN?
EXITALY WHEN?
>EXITALY WHEN?
EXITALY WHEN?
>EXITALY WHEN?
EXITALY WHEN?
youtube.com/watch?v=-JytbHDRG0U

can someone tell me how accurate the polls were in italy? were the jews skewing them?

never, we are taking charge

New fascist Italy when?

you're welcome
t. terrone

They would be better off without the Euro though. They just need to undo their labour law mess and have a slightly devalued currency again and they would be better off.

Manolo, stop watching porn. It impairs your judgement.

Friendly reminder:
>Beppe Grillo used to be a comedian and used to work for Berlusconi's TV channels
>Beppe Grillo is a tinfoil hat and has demonstrated it by bluepilling people many a time on the uselessness of the vaccines
>Beppe Grillo teamed up with Gianroberto Casaleggio
>Gianroberto Casaleggio (now deceased) was a tinfoil hat too
>Gianroberto Casaleggio was also an Internet (meme) expert and spin doctor
>He knew of most ties between businessmen
>He tried to break the chains of power
>However, he decided to do so by exploiting the ignorance and gullibility of other tinfoil hats
>They created M5S
>They pretended it was freely democratic and internal elections could take place on the Internet
>They advertised it as direct democracy
>Truth is they appointed whoever they wanted
>They moved pawns as they pleased
>They don't own the party, but Grillo's family is legal owner of the symbol and many copyrights
>Basically, this is a party of anti-vaxxers and chemtrails believers created by a spin doctor and his cohort, who wanted to have a cut of the political pie to increase their paycheck

FRIENDLY REMINDER M5S IS NOT THE EQUIVALENT OF ALT-RIGHT
THEY ARE JUST POOR IDIOTS WITH NO EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER
TINFOIL HATS AT BEST.

>>M5S throws another tantrum
>>indicts another referendum
Sorry mate. I hate M5S, but it was PD who indicted *this* referendum.

Thats good too.

I loved Battlefront 2 so much man..

Shame it's dead.

>How big a habbening is this? I have no idea what your government is like
I suspect they will never do that.
Hence, my OP.

They *should* do this. But they won't.
If they act as I have written, it means the rule of law has been respected.

Otherwise... I have bad news for everyone. We're not a democracy any more (but we knew this already, didn't we?).

Beppe is Brancaleone and the M5S his armata. Actually, memes should be made of this.

nothings gonna change just like the brit cucks brexit. this is just a shit show to make you think you accomplished something

Euro ruined our economy

Even so, I will never support Beppe. He's not the new Trump.

>TINFOIL HATS AT BEST.

not m5s here but let's pick some of what you have written and let's see if it sounds tinfoiling

>He knew of most ties between businessmen
>However, he decided to do so by exploiting the ignorance and gullibility of other tinfoil hats
>Truth is they appointed whoever they wanted
>They moved pawns as they pleased

i agree with you but you gotta work on your form

We need Italian awoos for the EXITALY GENERAL

The EU is the reason why Europe has been economically successful after WW2.

It provided enough stability and protectionism that everyone benefited from it.

Dismantling it would pretty much throw Europe back in the 19th century.

Forza Italia!

>yfw whoever goes after Renzi doesn't change anything
>yfw migrant flux won't stop because they don't have any plan for it
>yfw Benito-tier wrong moves

The worst thing is that most american Sup Forumsacks don't realize that Grillo is literally what would happen if Hillary won the elections and put CTR in charge of everything.

Non abbiamo saputo sfruttare il dividendo dell'euro, 700 miliardi di euro per via dei minori interessi solo nei primi 8 anni.

He is a useful idiot that should be discarded once the time comes. I doubt the M5S will know how to deal with real power and will splinter into several smaller parties desu.

Never, fascism is a meme for low IQ retards.

>tfw i have to block Romania and Serbia again

When will shills learn

youtube.com/watch?v=zAx0t3O55Zo

Can't make a fascist Italy without fascists, M5S is authoritarian left and Lega is somehow in the middle of the right spectrum.

Bullshit. Apparently, our submerged economy is 15% of the official one. This means everything is fine.

FOREIGN INVESTORS PLEASE REMEMBER ITALY ALWAYS KEEPS A SLICE OF THE ITALIAN PIE HIDDEN FROM STRANGERS. WHENEVER CRISIS STRIKES, ITALY APPLIES LAWS IN A STRICT WAY AND RETRIEVES PART OF THAT HIDDEN SLICE. WHEN THINGS GO WELL, THE SLICE STAYS WHERE IT IS.

ITALY'S GDP IS 15% BIGGER THAN IT SHOULD BE. ALL OF THAT "EXTRA" IS TAX EVASION, CORRUPTION, PROSTITUTION, MAFIA DEALINGS, DRUGS, MONEY LAUNDERING, UNRECORDED TRANSACTIONS, ETC.

INVESTORS BEWARE: ITALY IS SAFE AND STABLE. YOU CAN INVEST HERE.

It's not like your opinion on the EU is relevant. You don't live here so you don't know shit.

Take an example from Brexit

Also go suck your daddy Putin's dick, you fucking traitor.

it will almost certainly be solution 2 with some cuck from renzi's administration like delrio

>Euro ruined our economy
>not clever wolves who forgot about the conversion rate, halving the salaries and doubling the prices
Italians are the worst thing that ever happened to italians.

This. I'm curious to know if they're are any Italian Tumblr types losing their shit and threatening riots or other some such nonsense.

I think the late polls were pretty much 50-50. Not nearly as jewed as the US elections.

This

No worries Spaghetti, the Emperor protects.

Adeptus Italicus will be favored in the new economy.

>EU
>ECONOMICALLY
>SUCCESSFUL
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I live here and you're full of shit, shill. EU started to have any relevance and pretenses with the euro in 2001.
They weakened all of our nations to gain more power for themselves.

>Italian Hitler
You mean Mussolini?

Mostly on Fb but not that much, it's late in italy and most people sleep

Young people massively voted NO, so I guess that the spergouts on the Internet will be limited

I see your point, but allow me to explain.

I don't think Casaleggio was wrong when he assumed most of the decisions in the world are taken by élites and we "suffer" them regardless of how efficient our democracy is.

This is not tinfoiling. This is basic common sense. We are aware of how multinational corps lobby governments. We know of Snowden, CIA, etc. We are sufficiently redpilled to know Casaleggio has never been too much off the mark.

What I take an issue with, is the fact Casaleggio
>on the one hand, advertised the idea of dismantling said system
>however, on the other hand, his party works in the worst big-brotherly way... as if he was trying to dismantling the system by using the worst tools (mass control, communication control, etc.) devised by the system he is trying to take down

My suspicion, here, is that he had merely "learnt" from the system but wasn't really trying to change it. Just digging his little niche so that the powerful ones had to admit him in the Olympus.

That's what I blame him for: he knew the system could create monsters (i.e. M5S), so he created one... and pretended to have done so in an ethical way.

This latter part made me realise he is not up to anything good.

>Italian hitler
mama mia! fire up the oven we hava work ta do!

Bella merda, ma dio cane.

no i dont remember anything about him gassing kikes or sterilizing niggers

>The EU is the reason why Europe has been economically successful after WW2.
That's a weird way to name the Marshall Plan

Or maybe it's because Industrial Technology got far better

Maybe time just went past and the economy just got smoother

Maybe it's because population growth is a thing and therefore more productivity

Retard.

Italian tumblrs are all in favor of No because of vaccines and other bullshit.

>The worst thing is that most american Sup Forumsacks don't realize that Grillo is literally what would happen if Hillary won the elections and put CTR in charge of everything.
You speak words of wisdom!

Someone please screencap this!

No, he didn't.
He was still based as fuck.

Veramente sul gruppo di IIC sono tutti dai 18-26 e hanno votato in massa si

(28.681 membri)

All of the Italians I know in Canada play hockey and are stoners. Really makes you think.

Can I just join the 8th Cadian and get over this bullshit? We'll be getting fucking Beppe Grillo anyway and it will be worse than before, so I just want to bail out and defend Cadia.

...

Well he deported many of them in Germany, gypos too

This!

Well as a result of this vote, your banks will most likely collapse and you're gonna need that slice to survive.

Also it's gonna be really expensive for you to borrow money from global markets.

Yeah, that was through it being what it originally started as (a trading system, countries who do trade with each other don't generally go to war because it would cost you money instead of making you money). It wasn't because they started acting like general Kikes and tried to make Europe one big country instead of a continent you stupid cunt. Of course it's good for shithole countries because you have nothing to fucking lose anyway.

>Execute your dictator and escape Communism
>Immediately beg to join the EU and experience Gommunism lite
>"This is great!"

Fucking moron. I refuse to believe that based Codreanu was even Romanian if retards like you are how the majority thinks.

Sul TG1 facevano vedere che i 18-26 hanno votato al 70% per il NO. Newsflash: i gruppi su Facebook di regime non contano un cazzo

>All of the Italians I know in Canada play hockey and are stoners. Really makes you think.
Stop meeting with Working-Holiday Visas.
They're all stoners.

Only good for you disgusting scum since you immigrate by the milions here.

it takes a monster to slay monsters.
The problem is that M5s is no monster, it's just another colored revolution. Only with stars and 2.0, because we have better internet then Lybia or Tunisia or Ucraine.

BREAKING NEWS!!!!
New EU flag design proposed, being voted in EU parliament.
APPROVAL RATINGS ARE OFF THE CHART!

There is enough public anger for some potential, don't give up on spaghetti land.

>Italian Hitler

youtube.com/watch?v=H2TSdz4eRvY

So what now? Renzi was defeated yes? less europe yes? yes? what now?

>Well as a result of this vote, your banks will most likely collapse and you're gonna need that slice to survive.
Please correct this Romania.
Our banks are safe. They passed stress tests last year.

Also, they wouldn't suffer further stress, wasn't it for Renzi who resigned. He could have kept power... but decided to blackmail everyone instead. And we don't like people who blackmail us.

It is Renzi's fault if economy falters. Not a consequence of the "No" vote. Rather, it's a consequence of him linking his resignation to a "no" vote.

Watch your mouth, next time.

I haven't been following Italy at all.

What's going on? I was watching Austria

Anyone got the % result for each region?

They are leaving the EU

100% scorporo when? Berlusconi go home

yeah, you're welcome for all the free cash...

See this? This is the world GDP. EU has a 1/4 of it. US has another. China a bit less.

And the EU doesn't even have the huge territory and free resources that the US had. Not to mention the insular, isolated position which makes military invasion basically impossible.

So, stfu, if it weren't for Europe, the US wouldn't even exist.

>Sud e Isole

Holy fuck, they were really fed up with Renzi.

Was Mussolini part of your master argument?

Quel cazzo di gruppo ha scillato come poche cose al mondo. There are some obvious unpaid euroshills bimbi that just want to go in Erasmus.
Fucking idiots

Okay, when I wrote "Monster" I meant "abomination". A monster is a functional being. An abomination is just another degeneracy.

My semantics was twisted.

So, let me repeat myself
>In order to sly a monster, Casaleggio created a monstruosity... but the latter turned out to be just a retard minion.

He actually refused to send Italian Jews to Germany even during the Social Republic puppet government. He always saw Jews as part of the Italian Nation, unlike Hitler.

>No, don't cook tha pizza in them! We're never gonna finish!