The founding fathers were liberals

The founding fathers were liberals.

Get over it.

liberal then =/= liberal now
yeah, you're retarded

> poolish intelektuals

The founding fathers would have never wanted women voting. We should honor their intentions

lol no

they didn't do free their slaves

for comparision: the french liberals actually banned slavery, expropiated private property and guillotined dissidents

Classical liberalism combined with ethnonationalism. Pretty based

How could the definition of a word change over time?

You're fucking retarded.

If the founding fathers were around today they'd all be Democrats.

Wow disgusting, an anti-slavite. Racist g-yim

Depends on your definition of liberal, back then liberal meant that as long as you were a straight white male then you should be free from us Brits and allowed to as many slaves and land as you could allow yourself

Not quite what liberal means now days

>How could the definition of a word change over time?

this isn't even subtle

And slaveholders too

What isn't even subtle?

blow me dude im going to bed

>he can't into banter

The modern left isn't liberal.

Today's liberals are nothing like the founding fathers. Get over it.

Of course it is. The Democrats are the party for progressive, forward-thinking liberals.

That is the base of the party.

>how could the definition of a word change over time?

Oh I get it. So when you mean democrat, you mean they would be like the party that voted for slavery, then segregation. I guess I could see that.

OP's a retarded faggot

no the democrats want oppression of the majority thats why they formed kkk so that the majority could get rid of the minority.

Yes. Classical liberals.

Modern leftists are retarded and don't understand actual moderate and sensible leftism.

Accurate.

The "well their liberal isn't our liberal" retards don't get it.

They are the same liberalism. The one that challenges traditions and social norms to bring about a new society freer and fuller for those who live in it.

It's the exact same liberalism applied to new issues. The reason it can be is because of their success.

Classical liberals indeed

The founding fathers were Freemasons, Illuminati, whatever you want to call it, bought and paid for by the (((big banking families))) in order to break away from the rule of England, Just like they did in France a few short years before, in order to lay the foundation for what's happening today.

Founding fathers were NWO globalist childfuckers and moloch worshippers.

Liberals who banned non-whites from being allowed to be citizens. So, a peculiar sort of "liberalism" from today's standpoint.

Came to say this.

>"classic" liberals
Oh look: conservative double-think in action.

>W-w-well sure microevolution exists, but that doesn't prove macroevolution because it's different believe me!
>But it's just a matter of scope
>TOTALLY DIFFERENT!

>W-w-well sure pollution destroys the environment. But that doesn't prove anthropogenic climate change.
>But it's just a matter of scope
>TOTALLY DIFFERENT!

>W-w-well sure the founders were liberals, but that has nothing to do with gay rights.
>But it's just a matter of scope
>TOTALLY DIFFERENT!

The meagerness of your intelligence is showing.

Who cares? ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!

no u

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WRONG
natural rights aka "negative" rights are the only true liberalism
"positive" rights aka slavery is false liberalism, even if in your demented mind it "challenges social norms"

I think you mean
>Christian

I think you might have failed your philosophy 101 course there, bud.

People like you need to go away. Shallow minded fools claiming enlightenment.

Of course they were
Liberal still means 'holding to the belief that the primary or only goal of government is the maximization of individual liberty and equality'.
the modern "right" is focused on individual liberty.
The modern "left" is focused on equality
They ae ALL Liberals, just different sorts.