Sup Forums in denial about using the "alt-right" label

I'm going to try and be non-hostile with this post but I know it's going to get me a bunch of hostile shit posting because it's been getting me that, but here goes --

Why is Sup Forums denying using the alt-right label itself? A year ago and a little before that it was everywhere. Tons of user's were referring to themselves as alt-right. We had a lot of threads about it, mainly discussing what it is or is not. Now *I never labelled myself with it because we could never seem to agree on what it meant* but I was sympathetic to some arguments being posted from alt-right people. I say this because when I bring this up I get shitposted with "ur just mad Sup Forums doesn't have ur leddit meme idealogy" I don't go to that fucking site. I don't even have a Twitter account. It's not MY label.


My issue is that when CNN and MSM started talking about it heavily, then Sup Forums all the sudden started saying Sup Forums was NEVER alt-right or Sup Forums NEVER talked about it or had anything to do with it. Which I just find as lying, revisionist, bullshit because I saw those threads with my own damn eyes. It feels a lot like when Sup Forums would get in trouble for something and blame ebaums. Like that kind of meme.

So I can't be the only one who noticed this? I can't be the only actually honest poster here? My speculation is that it's Sup Forums's Sup Forums mentality of being contrarian. A term we used went mainstream so it immediately becomes taboo. Just like "fedora" did.

>inb4 I get accused of being a newfag for noticing something only newfags CANT notice because it happened in the past
>inb4 someone accuses me of only being here a year, it's been 4 for me.

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i don't like alt-right
i prefer pepe-nazis

pol is pol.
not the alt right

>i prefer pepe-nazis

Kind of sounds like Pepperoni if you say it outloud.

>OP inb4ing himself
entire post disregarded

that's whats so great about it

Okay I got to clear this up right now before I get too many of these posts.

I'm not saying "ALL OF Sup Forums IS ALTRIGHT" No. I'm saying we definitely had/have those people here, but for some reason post-CNN coverage a lot of the users are denying that. Denying people here identified as alt-right for a long time.

Richard Spencer made the label toxic

Labels are only good for smearing

That's how that meme works dude. Jesus Christ it's another "Sup Forums pretends something is an issue that's not an issue" episode.

tl;dr

>2011
>Occupy Wall Street
>Broad movement rejecting the political status quo and crony capitalism eventually gets undermined by identity politics.
>six years later...

Don't know who that is. Did you see "alt-right" being talked about on Sup Forums before CNN's coverage of it? Yes or no?

Okay. Did you see "alt-right" being talked about on Sup Forums before CNN's coverage of it? Yes or no?

Alt-right is pro-Jew, any Sup Forumslack using that label should be ashamed of themselves.

Okay I'll make it simple -- Did you see "alt-right" being talked about on Sup Forums before CNN's coverage of it? Yes or no?

>I'm going to post a picture of the "world's greatest detective" while investigating a question on a Mongolian throat-singing forum.
>Lefties think this shit actually works.

There is no such thing as "alt-right". MSM pushed it to create a boogeyman to put into a bad light. Most of what you see on Sup Forums are bitter Ron Paul supporters that rallied behind Trump.

labels are over simplifications of stupid ideas. I always thought Milo was "alt right" and I don't like that fag.

And only a massive faggot would say irl
>yes, I belong to the alt right

I feel you, OP. Alt right is a political ideology born on Sup Forums, on pol specifically.
No one wants to identify as that now though.

I'm not a fucking leftist.

>There is no such thing as "alt-right".

Of course there isn't when people say they are "alt-right" one second and totally claim it doesn't exist the next.

Did you see "alt-right" being talked about on Sup Forums before CNN's coverage of it? Yes or no?

The nature of Sup Forums is to resist such a thing. Even if an accurate label were to be placed upon the general Sup Forums-user mentality, it would be rejected outright. Sup Forums is the goth of current year.

How is it pro jew?

racist alt-right loser virgins BTFO

Sup Forumss been around for years and went though countless phases over the years. No, alt-right was a term they made up to deflect the weight of the DNCs crushing defeat to a Cambodian basket weaving forum. This is also a world wide forum if you couldn't tell from the flags. The media is trying to stay on top of the few that they still have hypnotized but in doing so, show their hand to the rest of us

The label didnt exist until the left created it and everyone knows it, shill.

nope.

because it's an msm made label.

Because it was created by Jews, inflated by Jews, and then villainized by Jews. You'll see this trick played again soon with the "retransformation" of the democratic party.

There is no set definition for the alt-right. Originally the term was used for and by libertarian white nationalists who emphasized race realism. While we have those types here, they're hardly a majority. Sup Forums is more center right, generally speaking.

The word has since come to refer to Trump's online supporters, trying to put us all in the same boat with what the left perceives as neo-nazis.

What's left is a label that has no good use, except to confuse lefties and make a joke of their media. Long live the alt-right!

>Sup Forums is not one person
>Sup Forums is a board of peace
>Sup Forums is satire

Sup Forums is a place where people of all nations, creeds, races and classes come together in admiration of Adolf Hitler.

>101654095

Yes. I've known edgy retarded acquaintances of mine who've been talking about it for years. That's all it is, the most autistic sperged out corner of the conservative internet community

We have an archive, just bring up examples.

It'll make your case a lot easier.

FUCKING THANK YOU! See? You're the only honest person on this board right now. No one else will own up to it or they're too literally new or something.

I feel like I'm growing crazy watching this happen before my very eyes and then people telling ME I'm making it up that alt-right was a Sup Forums thing. Yeah. yeah. yeah I get MSM is using it as a boogeyman, I get it's a dumb label. I'm not arguing against any of that, but don't fucking lie to me and tell me Sup Forums didn't use it and contribute to it.

I don't have a life, I'm on this board way too much. So I see all the little micro shifts it goes through.

Sup Forums briefly thought the alt-right was emerging as a term to describe the general discontent with the status quo and emerging nationalist inclinations around the world. In the beginning, Alt-Right was just used to distance Nationalists from Conservatives(Democrats Lite)
Unfortunately we didn't know that the term alt-right was coined by an actually autistic stormfag. Now that stormfag and his idiot minions are being used as an example of what nationalists are.
Sup Forums hates jews and wants an ethnostate. So does the Alt-Right. We all know this.
The division is caused by Spencer jumping the gun and going full 14/88 in the presence of the media. Alt-Right people think that we should stop hiding our true ideologies, Sup Forums sees that goose stepping is a poor way to gain more followers

but Sup Forums is a board of peace

>A year ago and a little before that it was everywhere. Tons of user's were referring to themselves as alt-right. We had a lot of threads about it, mainly discussing what it is or is not.
This is not true.

You were warned by oldfags that remember what happened to libertarians against accepting the label when the alt-right threads started getting forced on Sup Forums.

I only skimmed your post.
Basically, I don't like labels. I don't agree with everything that's posted here. I'm not a racist. I don't like your assuming I'm a Nazi loving basement bound skin head.
I have a college education. The only neighbor I like and talk to is black. I can speak broken Spanish, and visit Mexico every other year.
I reject your shitty label, because I'm none of those things you try to stick me with. If I see "let's hate niggers" threads, I don't participate. I can't remove them, but they are free to exist here. Doesn't mean I tattooed swastikas on my body because I express opinions here, and that's how you are grouping people.

You are new here, or you'd feel the same.

Basically your assuming all of Sup Forums is one ideology of group think. That's how anyone can tell you are new, regardless of your lies.

This.

Definitely this.

>>There is no such thing as "alt-right".
>Of course there isn't when people say they are "alt-right" one second and totally claim it doesn't exist the next.
This is because, as you can clearly see if you read through the thread, people deny the title, regardless of 'accuracy', due to the fact that it is:
1. Not set in stone (ex. clearly stated in multiple dictionaries)
2. Not in our control
3. Does not serve our interest
4. Is not humorous

Once the title is applied, it doesn't come off for quite a bit. If it can still change, it's not worth falling into any trap to articulate a single title when we could go do something else.

And, to answer your question, no. I did not see anything regarding 'alt-right' on here before CNN coverage.

no, because it is a stupid idea in itself and MSM even rarified its stupidity

I've seen stuff on Gaydix Journal discussed here

>people saying they are alt-right
>taking anything pol/ack said srsly
libtard cannot into bantz and humors after all

>No, alt-right was a term they made up to deflect

>because it's an msm made label.

And that's the Orwellian meme lie I'm talking about. You guys are either fucking lying or just weren't here to witness it. It existed before the MSM used it against people.

MSM didn't make it up, they picked it up from all the social media accounts with pictures of Pepe referring to themselves as alt-right and posting typical Sup Forums Nazi-meme stuff. When they made that shallow connection and tried to smear people with it, all the sudden Sup Forums goes into totally "NUH UH!!!!" mode.

Which one? Our local archive deletes everything after awhile and the other archive sites either don't have Sup Forums on them or they're so loaded with ads I'm not bothering with them.

There is no true nature of this board. It isn't owned by a particular faction or group. Trying to make sense of Sup Forums will cost you your sanity.

At any given moment we have:

>Nazis and Commies going at it.
>Did the holocaust really happen debates.
>Is fucking a tranny degenerate?
>Why are Canadians such rabid cucks?
>What's the economic benefits to a true free market system.

There's too much to wrap your head around. This board shifts and turns and twists around and around.

At the end of the day it's main product is shitposting and dank memes - that's were the "alt right" came onto the scene. It was a meme nothing more, nothing less.

>Tons of user's were referring to themselves as alt-right.
???

no, it was started by the Clinton campaign and everyone here laughed saying that nobody self identified as that and it was just media boogyman bullshit

youtube.com/watch?v=-DSVDcw6iW8

>Why is Sup Forums denying using the alt-right label itself?

Why should we conform to labels meant to segregate?

You seem to be under the misguided opinion that Sup Forums is one person, and that identifying with a label is a positive thing.

Hint: It's not, and if you don't conform to a label, almost none of Alinsky's tactics work on you.

getting sloppy, newfags

>I'm not a fucking leftist.
Yeah, you are; or at least you are acting like one. Enjoy your (you)s

It's (((their))) label, not ours. Anons assume only those labels they want for themselves. No more, no less.

Fuck off newfag. No one on here ever even heard that term until democunts and the msm started shilling it as a boogeyman against trump.

>Sup Forumstard can't into actually having anything serious at all in their fucking lives and lie and lie and fucking lie all goddamn fucking day.

>I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED GUISE I REALLY DONT BELIEVE WHATEVER I JUST SAID I DO TEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHE HEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEH HEHHEHEHEHEHHEHE
EHEHEHHEHEHE
HEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH

:^)

>I REALLY HAVE NO POLITICAL OPINIONS AT ALL I JUST POST KEK PORN AND SAY Sup Forums BTFO!!!!!

>THEN I LIE AND SAY I DONT DO THAT!

>makes orwellian claim
>orwelling claim gets debunked
>"nuh uh! You're the one lying!"

been here since 2006. alt-right wasn't a thing until it was a convenient way to group people who didn't toe the dem's party line together.

provide proof or GTFO

RACIST, SEXIST, HOMOPHOBE, ISLAMAPHOBE, XENOPHOBE, ALT-RIGHT

>Sup Forums is one person

Sup Forums is Sup Forums
This is Sup Forums's logo

You will never change this. Now fuck off newfag shill

Okay. You jack off to interracial c.uckolding porn. I know because you're "acting like it".

There you go. Go away c.uck

Fuck off liar. You're lying you goddamn know it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

>been here since 2006.

>provide proof or GTFO

Provide proof the term "alt-right" wasn't used on this website before it was used CNN and the MSM. How about that?

Bunch of civic nationalists and people who don't know what alt-right is flipped a tit over some people larping a bit, even though all Sup Forums ever does is larp all day.

Literally is a case of

I WAS MERELY PRETENDING TO BE RETARD LELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELEL MEEEEMEEES

kill yourself, shill.
liberals act like social engineering through the Internets was invented in 2015. Like you didn't exist from 1991 to present die. You need to lurk moar, or kys

don't forget to sage, niggers

Dude, you clearly spend a little too much time here and take it a little too seriously. The number one rule of this site in general has always been that you don't take it seriously. I go to Sup Forums pretty much expecting 99% of the threads to be memeposting and garbage. There is a reason why this board is virtually impossible to push any real agenda on, it's a bunch of retards all collectively screaming about what boils down to nothing. Yes there was a time a year or so back when some people here were talking about alt-right and referring to themselves as that, the reason why nobody wants to now is like you said 1. we're contrarian as fuck and 2. labels are bad, they allow opposition to shoehorn you in with every dumbfuck that chooses to identify with your label.

I knew I should of put an >inb4 Sup Forums is one person

In that post.

But I mistakenly assumed you guys would see I'm talking about SOME people not ALL people. But leave it Sup Forums to just fucking assume.

Did I any, way shape of fucking form mention anything about changing Sup Forums?

I ask Sup Forums to own up to something. Apparently that's too much because only one or two non-newfags can actually verify the truth without meme-spouting something they know they just made up or copied from people who did.

4plebs goes back a few years.

You try there?

It's just bunch a of newfags from /r/the donald who are too cowardly to use a label tied with anti-semitism

>SOME people not ALL people
Then who the fuck cares?

you sound frustrated, friend.

Have you considered going for a run?

If you can't admit people used the term alt-right, on this fucking board before it was reported in the mainstream YOU need to fucking lurk moar or kill your goddamn self for being so hard in denial.

>don't forget to sage, niggers

Don't forget to shit on someone making an actual thread while you go and reply to every single bait thread with a picture from BLACKED on it!

I tried not to hostile but faggots like you make it fucking impossible. You just can't admit the truth.

You are the one making a positive claim. Provide proof of your positive claim.

just to be clear, everything that OP said is a lie

the label is VERY new, it was invented in response to the globalists realization that we are having a small impact

the label, like 'fake news' was created to marginalize us, and all we have to do is ignore it

heres the thing, it was just a catch all term... until the media conected it to richard spencer, and now its a specific label.

it used to be you would disagree with the neocon republicans or the cuckservatives like paul ryan, you could just call yourself alt right, because left wing is unthinkable, but mainstream republican conservative is a close second.

>everything that OP said is a lie
It actually isn't. About a year or so back there were quite a few threads/posters on here consistently discussing being "alt-right". Not to suggest we should adopt the label because labels are always bad, but you're wrong.

>Why is Sup Forums denying using the alt-right label itself?

Because I'm not an autistic faggot who feels the need to categorically label everything.

The Alt-Right is only in the news because of (((Clinton)))'s feeble attempt at making something associated with White Nationalism also associated with Donald Trump. We will not let (((them))) choose our lable by validating it.

you're also a liar

"labels are always bad" only a lying piece of shit would intentionally malign the truth with some uninformative, non-specific drool like that

the label is brand new, it's an attack on the truth, everyone here knows that

I care because the meme being spouted is that NO ONE on here ever used it, like this guy here claiming it was completely made up.

That's what I'm thinking. Applied to the people saying Sup Forums never talked about the alt-right or people from here gladly labelled themselves as such in the past.

That's what I'm wondering. As soon as the MSM made it this big, vilifying thing, Sup Forums backed off from it. It just drive me bonkers seeing threads and posts

>Sup Forums is alt-right, leftist c.ucks get out

*two months of Wolf Blizter and Samantha Bee and every single news publication later*

>p-p-pol d-d-d-doesn't have anything t-t-t-to d-d-d-do with the al-al-t-right! R-r-right guys?

They're trying to divide and conquer with identity politics. It doesn't fucking matter what you call yourself or what others call you.

>Why is Sup Forums denying using the alt-right label itself? A year ago and a little before that it was everywhere. Tons of user's were referring to themselves as alt-right.

>So I can't be the only one who noticed this?

You're the only one who noticed it because it's all bullshit, Milo was the first faggot to use the 'Alt Right' label to try and declare himself the leader of it, since then it's been used for similar purposes or by giving us a name to continue (((their))) identity politics.

It's never been excepted here, anyone with half a brain can see there is nothing good about being given a label that we can all be classed under and having leaders will only end in corruption and subversion

The first time I heard about "alt roght" was when killery was running. Mabey I just ignored those threads but I honestly don't recall them. and I'm probably the most "alt-right" here.

What really matters it how you use a word. Like when niggers say "what up my nigger" VS. when I say "you filthy nigger" the word changes meaning in the context used. So even if your correct (I doubt it) the word lost any loose meaning g it might have had when the left wing cunts started defining it.

Sup Forums is not one ideology you fucking nigger
i've been here for years and only a few faggots ever referred to themselves as alt-right here. The white separatists/supremacists here always had the balls to call themselves NatSoc

What the actual fuck are you talking about. Give me one example of a label being a positive thing. Fucking newfags.

>Did I any, way shape of fucking form mention anything about changing Sup Forums?

There was never any "alt-right" generals. It only got major attention when milo created his article about it on breitbart. Before that it was people posting disney song parodies and using it as a term to describe everyone who is not a neocon but not really linking it to anything.
youtube.com/watch?v=k4dyZJppXfc

This was usually in the threads with faggots trying to create new symbols for Sup Forums that weren't nazi related so they could put them on propaganda videos. "alt-right" was always a plan to subvert Sup Forums

Thank you! Fucking thank you. Thank you for being honest. That's all I was asking. The rest of these lying anons are driving me insane. I knew someone else would speak up and say they saw it too.

I'm not asking Sup Forums to adopt the label, just stop lying and pretending people here didn't do so in the past.

>Sup Forums is not one ideology you fucking nigger

Aaannndddd I never fucking said that or even implied. So stop infering and projecting it.

>i've been here for years and only a few faggots ever referred to themselves as alt-right here.

So you're admiting people have though? Tell the rest of the anons! They insist no one did!

I'm not lying when I say I didn't see those threads

Read my post. It's all truth about my perspective.
.Look at his post. Seems legit.

>A year ago and a little before that it was everywhere. Tons of user's were referring to themselves as alt-right
Hello, Reddit.

Sup Forums is contrarian to the core, 6 months ago being alt-right was le edgy and underground so it was super cool on here, then Hillary made her speech and the alt-right was being discussed in the media and normies were coming around to check it out, so of course the alt-right is now lame and too mainstream

Now find one of those threads archived on 4pleb without any posts in it calling the alt-right a shill. Pro-tip: You can't.

>So even if your correct (I doubt it) the word lost any loose meaning g it might have had when the left wing cunts started defining it.

I agree to that, but I am correct. I think Sup Forums's just too embarrassed to admit it.

I didn't like how the left got to define it either. I'm sick of the opponents of any movement getting to say what the movement is about. I don't know if it's always been this way or that the Internet has brought it about or both, the Internet made easier to do.

But you can't wear a label or identify with a group because the worst person in that group gets to set the stereotype for the rest. This magically doesn't apply to leftist groups though.

People that shilled Milo did. Not alot of those around anymore.. There's a lot of different people here at any given time, and the crowd also varies depending on hapenings, memes, elections etc etc. Also some of us actually do grow up. Slowly.

To this day, I don't understand what the "alt-right" is supposed to be. And in any case, it's a retarded label for a place like Sup Forums. There are leftist scum here as well. Also, I'm a centrist.

>Letting kikes label you.
Since you're into labels, here you go.
>"Faggot"

*cough*

This is what Sup Forums does. Every one was waiting for Sup Forums to denounce Trump and deny all support they had for him if he lost. Thats how it is with politics every 4 years on Sup Forums. That didnt happen, and instead they deny all the "alt-right and proud" and "milo is our alt-right leader" threads. This is the true red pill. That Sup Forums is wrong about everythign

>(((alt-right)))

Go back to plebbit.

Sup Forums is a NatSoc board.

Hail Victory Brothers

Well, if they have hourly threads where people talk about Fox News gatherings and defend Fox News from criticism for several months, then Yes I would say Sup Forums loves Fox News.

With that being said, this year Sup Forums loves Fox News

>Every one was waiting for Sup Forums to denounce Trump and deny all support they had for him if he lost.
Interesting, did you come to this conclusion by asking everyone on Sup Forums about this or is it something you made up?

I think most people who supported Trump would have said something like "Fuck we are fucked what do we do"

Back when pol self identified as alt right it just meant right leaning without going along with the republican mainstream

ok I'm done taking the bait now

There is no alt right. That would imply theres some sort of leadership here at Sup Forums. Any leader that could get a herd of cats moving under one banner would be organizing the 4th reich not shitposting on Sup Forums.

Sup Forums is a board of peace