/left/ General

Greetings Comrades

This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

ABC's of Socialism: s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:
Anarchist:
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

Libertarian:
Mikhail Bakunin - God and the State (short read)
Thomas Paine - Agrarian Justice
Noam Chomsky - Notes on Anarchism
Anton Pannekoek - Worker's Councils

Marxist-Leninist:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Afghan_War
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Soviet_War
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cosmonauts
truthdig.com/report/item/the_mafia_state_20161204
google.com/amp/jalopnik.com/this-insane-rocket-is-why-the-soviet-union-never-made-i-1448356326/amp
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

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Greetings Comrade.

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Reminder that ALL LEFT THREADS ARE NAT SOC THREADS.

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Kys

Shoo shoo

Only if it's Strasserism

COMMIES OUT
YOU WILL BE THE FIRST TO GO ON THE DAY OF THE ROPE
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I like the pic.

Communism is inevitable.

hey guys you ever considered maybe that instead of there not ever being a real socialism despite all of those regimes that so quickly sank into personality-cult-laden democidal barbarity that actually the system you seem so attached to just doesn't actually function at it's most basic level?

>What is Communism?
A stateless, classless society.

>What is Socialism?
A transitional system between Capitalism and Communism, characterized by revolutionary govt and wage retention.

>What is Capitalism?
An economic system characterized by the private ownership of property and subsequent exploitation of labor.

>Why is Communism an almost certain inevitability?
As technology and society progresses, those who subsist on their labor will find themselves without work and coin. Their numbers will grow until eventually the abolishment of private property necessitates their survival.

>What went wrong with 20th century 'Communism'?
Contrary to his image, Karl Marx saw benefits and a necessity to Capitalism, while still acknowledging it's flaws and fleeting nature. To him, Society must endure Capitalism, just as a toddler must endure adolescence on it's path to adulthood.

Decades after his death, Vladimir Lenin would rise to power and weigh in upon Marx's ideas. Lenin rejected the notion that Feudal Russia must undergo Capitalist revolution before attaining Capitalism. The Soviets quickly learned that their Feudal development was insufficient in produce and supplying the needs of a Socialist society. And so began decades of state-sponsored Capitalism, in a desperate game of catch up.

There is much debate about this, with some arguing that Russia's premature attempt at Socialism accelerated the stage of Capitalism, with others asking at what cost? Regardless, Lenin's views and actions spread like wildfire across the globe, influencing Feudal and agrarian society's across the globe to prematurely campaign for a Socialist society that was well beyond their reach.

I end this post with some light reading material, maybe you've heard of the author: monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

>COMMUNISM

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kek confirms

You really want me killing more of your commie sluts Auscunt?

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leftypol cant even come up with their own memes though

You do realize you just spent 20 minutes typing a reply to a Canadian troll who's anything but communist?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Why does communism always result in genocide?

WAKEY WAKEY

Because no sane person actually wants communism. So they must be forced by the people in power, thus resulting in genocide.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Afghan_War

Why are communists so bad at war?

Yeah but his reply was pretty cogent and detailed.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Soviet_War

Why are communists so bad at war?

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Wheres that bro with the furries when we need him.

So when are you faggots going to give up?

>posting in a fucking leaf thread

>This guy's flayed corpse is on exhibition in Moscow

Daily reminder that the five faggots spamming these threads are working with a legitimate beta cucked mod that is too stupid to keep his personal information off the internet.

Communism doesn't work, China's devaluing their money, NK can't get a plan off the ground, the Anarchists lost the civil war, the bourgeoisie only existed during times of aristocracy, every socialist revolution ended in either defeat or an extreme dictatorship, and communism is overall incompatible with modern living.

>repel Polish invasion into a 3rd of Ukraine literally within 2 years of the USSR coming into existence
>end up getting disputed land back later anyways

Seems pretty gud at war m8

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Reminder to fuck racism and nazis away by making mixed babies!

Oh and fuck you commies!

>lenin_avidly_catching_up_on_his_blacked_vids.jpg

At this point I think our first goal is to reach democratic socialism. We need to better protect the workers from the exploitation of the bourgeoisie. This means pushing for state offered social programs such as free healthcare and free education, and heavier taxation on porky.

Eventually we will reach communism, whether it takes violence or democracy

reminder that those kids will hate themselves once they realize the only reason mommy and daddy got together was to spite white people
they will be a product of a broken and forgotten movement, your movement

>implying under a communist society white women will have ideological pressure on them from idpol liberalism to marry outside of their race

good meme

Why does Cubas hospitals look like this?

>""""""win"""""" against a country that literally didn't exist
>loose against polish despite outnumbering them 40:1

You hit the wrong target you fucking leaf!

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>go to poo
>die

>got to wash hands
>die

>go to dentist
>die

What benefits are there under communism

Well he did have that Swede blood after all.

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Why cant socialists produce enough food?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cosmonauts

>when you're so bad at space that you have to literally wipe out the existence of failed cosmonauts

Everyone seems to be equally miserable.

Job security.

>stand in line for days
>runs out of food before you get your rations

Saged and hidden.

that it?

Why don't communist countries have toilet paper?

i agree, comrade, but we must create a multicultural society for our ideals to be truly realized

Kek

>When your system is so tarded that it's never been tried because it can't be in the modern era

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Why cant socialists create beautiful buildings?

back to cripplechan

You really want me to kill more of them cunt?

Socialism is impossible until humans can create unlimited resources (for not cost) and provide means of entertainment (for little to no cost). Talking about such a flawed (under the current laws of physics) system is a waste of time. Go figure out a way to create the replicator from star trek. It'll be a much more fruitful endeavor......faggot

Achieved by capitalism.

Because all that new material is mighty tempting.

>leaf
HEY COMRADE
DON'T COMRADE MY COMRADES, COMRADE

Only capitalism has done this.

Oh for fucks sake. It's bad enough we got a bunch of assholes and corrupt mod raiding us, now we got of our own shitposting for kek and you all falling for it.

Look at the damn flag.

Why couldnt socialists do this?

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Capitalization and decentralization, of all things, actually.

truthdig.com/report/item/the_mafia_state_20161204

Systems of governance that are seized by a tiny cabal become mafia states. The early years—Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton in the United States—are marked by promises that the pillage will benefit everyone. The later years—George W. Bush and Barack Obama—are marked by declarations that things are getting better even though they are getting worse. The final years—Donald Trump—see the lunatic trolls, hedge fund parasites, con artists, conspiracy theorists and criminals drop all pretense and carry out an orgy of looting and corruption.

Why cant socialsts do aesthetics like these? Why is it always capitalism?

NASA is government-funded though?

Where is the screen shot of snowflakes on tumblr conspiring to do exactly this? start commie generals and try to meme themselves out of the asscrack of history

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A communist or semi-communist more so syndicalist society was sustainable in star-trek because of said advances. You either need to be ridiculously primitive and have a low population, or be extremely advanced.

Fucking newfags

>built by socialism

that bullet hole isn't even near her skull

try again

Then why are communists so bad at space travel?

google.com/amp/jalopnik.com/this-insane-rocket-is-why-the-soviet-union-never-made-i-1448356326/amp

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Communism is cancer.

mmmm... Capitalist aesthetics

Trump is REDPILLED as fuck!

Oh look the same fucking thread from a retarded sophomore.

you are forced to work and therefore can always support yourself

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You commies are blue pilled.

Why wasnt romania happy with their socialist rulers?