Can National Socialism and Communism be fused?

>Both parties want workers' rights
>Both parties want meaningful work for the worker.
>We are both hostile to outside interference
>We both hate the corrupted capitalism we live in
>We both want dignity for the human being
>To BE a human being, man and woman
>We already have the right ideas, tried and tested
>We both are willing to fight for it
>Alone we are useless against our horrible system
>We each are just laughable jokes to the world.
>But together....

So why fight each other any more when the message is so clear?

Kill yourself, Bolshevik.

National Communism?

Because fascism ends up being corporatism, where the same capitalists that ruined the economy end up ruling the people and pointing at some sort of blame figure to distract them. It's not what the people are promised at the start that is wrong, it's what it reveals itself to be that is.

Unless /NatSoc/ is /Strasserism/, I don't see how any cooperation is possible.

The problem with property and internationalism and race equality is too big.

Yes why not separate they're only retarded ideas.
But together..
Together they can be Giga Retarded!

Though Communism is constructed to be worldwide, so is fascism!

Look at America today, many countries living under one idea of a state. Each state is independent but each answers to the senate of the federal republic.

The world cannot be contained in a single nation. But we CAN have a world where a single fascist government controls all separate nations on earth, regardless of race, all working better for the common good. It is the future!

>can I not only be autistic and edgy, can I now be DOUBLY AUTISTIC AND EDGY


Go ahead, not like you have friends to make fun of you anyway

strasserists get out reee

night of the long knives when

communists don't want workers' rights, rather they want the abolishment of the system that creates the "worker" category

what does outside interference mean to you?

capitalism is inherently corrupt, corrupted capitalism is just capitalism to a communist

the rest is more or less common ground.

nationalism is un-democratic and immaterial - communism is democratic and material. pretty strong conflicts

Strasserism is boring. Everything is boring until the worker is introduced to meaningful work. This should be the core focus of the fusion.

Human beings are not primates nor primatives. We should be encouraged to work. We are each capable of being part of great things. Whether being the inventor or the factory worker, ALL should play a part.

There is an entire universe to explore, and we are still boring each other to death with tired conflicts? Let this idea take control. And then we can have the production possibility to go further than man has ever been before, inside our own earth, and outside it too.

Nationalsocialism rejects the materialistic point of view from marxism, believe in traditions, religion and honor, and private property. They are only similar because rejects capitalism.

>selling out to capitalists

>one likes white people and hates jews
>one was literally made by jews in order to kill whites
no they can't. now go back to /leftypol/

No.

See the failure bastard child that is NatBol

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They could attempt to come up with a new system.
If only there was a place they could share ideas and use their intelligence to create something new..

>regardless of race

Do you just not know what fascism means?

Literally national bolshevism, look it up.

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>communists don't want workers' rights, rather they want the abolishment of the system that creates the "worker" category
OK so you've never read the manifesto. Nor considered why NS parties consider themselves "workers parties" k thanks

Both National Socialism and Marx's Communism is obsessed with the idea of the worker. This is probably the strongest proponent of their respective ideals. While there are differences on the end product, there is a powerful symmetry in their appeal.

>what does outside interference mean to you?
It means, stop throwing useless ideas of republic and democracy around, and leave the right choices to the experts. Shouldn't that be obvious? I bet you even believe in the vote.

>capitalism is inherently corrupt, corrupted capitalism is just capitalism to a communist
You are rejecting the inherent good in a human being. Hard work is not bad or evil. A man or woman can do great things and both Communism and Fascism allow the opportunity for this, well beyond our current systems.

This is truth.

NatSoc and NazBol literally differ only in details really, because one hates the Slav so clearly couldn't be Russian. I have no problems with Slavs, they're pretty based tbqh. Even Stalin wanted rid of the Jews.

You're right, I haven't read the manifesto. I understand that they (well at least marx) are obsessed with the worker, but I don't think his goal is just to give him rights. communism is classless, "worker" as we call it today is a class. or?

It is called Strasserism

National socialism is basically socialism without the globalism and egalitarianism. That's why it worked. It's also a somewhat common opinion that Stalin was basically a Nazi, but lacked the German autism to actually make Russia great again.

No because Communism is international (The USSR basically operated like a commie EU) while National Socialism was about German supremacy. Communism is all about muh ideology while nazism is all about muh race. So in the Soviet Union, they didnt care about someones ethnicity or race or whatever, as long as they held the marxist beliefs. Stalin was a Georgian, Felix Dzerzhinsky was Polish ect. But under Hitlers Nazism, you had to be a German in order to be part of their club since it was based around the idea that Germans should rule over Europe

maybe with Strasserism since that focused a lot more on the socialist aspects of national socialism

Thats just Stalinism in practice though. The guy wasnt that much different than Hitler despite them having "opposite" beliefs. Stalin even pumped up nationalist ideas of Russia to help the fighting spirit of the soviets.

I guess tempers aren't running as hot as they used to, with Europe coming out of a massive wave of commie revolts and Treaty of Versailles hanging over everyone's heads.

Just don't get purged this time around.

lol nazi germany never wanted to rule europe they only wanted to be free of the versallies treaty and have their ancestral homeland back.

please fuck off with this retarded shit stormfag.

The Sudetenland was never even part of The German Empire and France and GB both made numerous concessions to Hitler.

You man Strasserism?

fuck off you dirty kike

How about we throw them both into the fucking dirt where they belong.

Nationalism is putting the country and its wellbeing first, domination is not necessary.

A homogenous society is easier to manage, death camps for foreigners are a bit excessive though.

This tbhfam

Communsim is a jewish osmpolitan internationalist egalitarian ideology that seeks to abolish nations ethnicity and traditions. So no. According to (((communists))) a somalian nigger with an IQ of 75 is the same as my brother

>Nationalism is putting the country and its wellbeing first, domination is not necessary.

yeah, but Hitler did dominate other countries. Even some of his own followers didnt like him for that.

>And so we National Socialists consciously draw a line beneath the foreign policy tendency of our pre-War period. We take up where we broke off six hundred years ago. We stop the endless German movement to the south and west, and turn our gaze toward the land in the east. At long last we break of the colonial and commercial policy of the pre-War period and shift to the soil policy of the future. If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal border states.-Chapter 14 of Mein Kampf

Communism isnt a jewish ideology user.

Jews are an ethnic group you brainwashed cretin

no, and you are a humongous faggot

>what is the SECULAR basis of Judaism?

I hate NatSocs but desu the HRE/Austria (both Germanic) controlled those lands (see Bohemia) and many Germans lived there

>tracing that shit all the way back to the fucking HRE as if thats some sort of legit claim to land in 1930s

Also, Hitler sure "liberated" all those "Germans" living in the Polish Corridor

>and we are still boring each other to death with tired conflicts?

Conflict is fun. Conflict is a part of life.

And you leave out what matters to us, our race, ethnicities, traditions. You're just thinking in boring communistic terms of 'work' in 'factories' and shit. You know nothing about how meaning works or where it comes from.

Also acquire a fuck-ton of Lebensraum (USSR), after cleansing the subhumans (slavs).

But nice revisionism, bro. Pursuit of autarky at the expense of others, and underpersoning people outside your borders is exactly why people have a problem with fascists.

communism is national socialism for atheists, with all forms of human dignity and soul thrown out the window

The primary difference is that in Communism all business and industry is owned by the government. In National Socialism they are privately owned. Otherwise they are practically identical.

We're not against the religious dimension of Judaism, we're against the SECULAR element.

How do you continue to not understand what we are about here? Trying to sell Marx as not a Jew (he was a Jew) because he rejected religion. It's the ATHEIST Jews we hate here!

Dude, this is no different than if I went to a communist board and tried to shill National Socialism. You are essentially on a Nazi board. Get it?

It already exists, faggot. It's called National Bolshevism, Duginism or Fourth Political Theory as Dugin Calls it (the previous three being Liberalism, Communism and Fascism).
In common with National Socialism:
>nationalism
>ethnocentrism
In common with Communism:
>imperialism
>subversion
>occasional destruction and reconstruction of culture

>inherebt good in a human being
kek bait
maybe this is why communism is such a failure, if it assumes man to inherently be selfless

So you let the bourgeois that shit up the economy and turned you populism in the first place to keep on trucking? A shameful socialist.

the free city of danzig had a majority german population during the interbellum

We like populism. We also don't mind the bourgeois.

Also, all marxists are bourgeois at LEAST. Stop pretending you want a worker's life or know anything about relating to them.

>National socialism is basically socialism
No, it isn't.

Stalinism is what you are looking fore.

>I think bourgoiuse are the "middle class" meme
>According to Karl Marx, the bourgeois during Middle Ages usually was a self-employed businessman – such as a merchant, banker, or entrepreneur – whose economic role in society was being the financial intermediary to the feudal landlord and the peasant who worked the fief, the land of the lord. Yet, by the 18th century, the time of the Industrial Revolution (1750–1850) and of industrial capitalism, the bourgeoisie had become the economic ruling class who owned the means of production (capital and land), and who controlled the means of coercion (armed forces and legal system, police forces and prison system).

>we're against the SECULAR element.

So was Marx. The jewish identity was to be erased under his ideas. Everything you hate about jews comes from their secular base user.

Look up Strasserism

Thats cool, but Hitler wanted the Polish corridor, which was all Poles. Thats what the war with Poland was over. Danzig was its own city state. Poland had nothing to do with them