The Truth

No Race is superior to the other Race
No Ideology is superior to the other ideology
No country is better than the other
Everybody and everything is flawed.
Get off you high horses you collective of LARPers
>This doesn't just include NatSocs

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The Truth: OP is a faggot.

>No Ideology is superior to the other ideology
>No country is better than the other

Would you rather live here or in North Korea?

I think you need to stop LARPing the jaded cynic and accept that some things are better than others.

>No Ideology is superior to the other ideology
Doesn't this invalidate everything you just said? Saying it so matter of factly as if there is no debate about it. As if your ideology is superior than the ones that contradict it.

Get out of here, Jahans. Make a new video pls.

Get this pseudo-CTR plebbit-tier garbage off my board.

You shit slurpers aren't welcome here.

>No country is better than the other
Feel free to move to any of the numerous shitholes in Africa then.

fpbp

saged

Yeah. Everything is nothing and blue is red and goobledeedooble doo. Smoke another joint faggot.

No. There are in fact, identifiable distributions of success in every possible measurable category.

If something is more successful, it can be considered superior.

this. op needs to grow up. sage

>Says the jaded cynic LARPer

Whatever you say, you Cheeto-encrusted katana collecting inbred

The outcome of different races and culture is very evident by looking at history.
You may say we are all equal, but everyone want to live in a western country.

WTF is a LARPer

>reality through the eyes of a nu/pol/ cuck scum bag

KEK

Preference for you own isn't a crime.

Loving your own family more than strangers doesn't mean you hate everyone else's

OP here, Can very much agree with this. Circumstance has benefited Western Countries, especially the US. Though seeing things from this advantage, people shouldn't have a high horse until they go to a shithole country and turn it into a Western-Tier civilization
Trips Checked, It means "Live Action Role Player"
>Pic Related

That is very true, and Preference isn't the problem. It's disdain for others. It's not Civil to hate strangers based on their looks or national origin. Hate them for who they are, if anything.

We know who you are you fucking newfag. ID's. Duh.

My bad, I'm used to shitposting on Random. I only usually lurk here

So where do you draw your line then?

What would you say if I said I want to live in a nation-state with people that of are mostly comprised of my background?

I draw my line when fellow countrymen are against another country or people for no discernible reason but to be against them or vice versa.
Also I would say that you're just living in any normal country. People tend to be with their own, but should not be forced to be separate.

>there is no such thing as superiority
how much glue do you have to huff to believe this?

>Random

Did you mean Sup Forums? Yeah sure. Def not one of these leftist invasion guys from reddit or wherever. You're doing a great job of blending in you fourteen yearold.

There is no superiority, just shifting in tides of the vacuums of power. 900 years ago the Mongols ruled the Globe, now they are a third world country.

My original response was "My Sup Forums" but that sounded faggy, eat a cock.

>my bad


Shocker

How would that make any sense? Why would the cold as shit arid west be more successful based on circumstance?

I agree, isolationism is the answer and the only way to achieve stability in a society.

>should not be forced to be separate.
But then I ask do you object to government programs that purposely exist to diversify people against their will? (like with Obamas section 8 reboot)

Is being allowed to critique another race allowed or not allowed? Even if there is a legitimate problem that should be spoken aloud so we can fix it? Is a critique of Religions allowed?

Where do you draw this arbitrary line of tolerance?

So what happens when a people decide they like your society more than the other society and start crashing it? He can no longer live in an ethno state.

>the truth
you are suicidal OP, its ok, we gonna fix that for you

whoa dude what an original and innovative way of thinking
you must be a really smart guy to have come up with that

And yet the mongols still do not kill eachother at the same rate niggers do. In fact, I doubt they ever did. Asians and whites are superior to everyone else. Maybe in the grand scheme of things. Sure, everything will die in the end but in this current moment we are superior. We are better than them. We are better than monkeys.

Eh, not really Isolationism. Free and open travel between nations and peoples should be allowed as it has, but not to the extent of the EU letting in hundreds of thousands of people or anything of the sort.
The forced diversification is only happening as a result of Racism and previous division. If racism hadn't existed anymore I would say it's unnecessary, but it is in some areas.
>Is being allowed to critique another race allowed or not allowed? Even if there is a legitimate problem that should be spoken aloud so we can fix it? Is a critique of Religions allowed?
yes absolutely, but in a constructive manner. If blacks kill cops, then there should be a conversation about the crime in low income black neighborhoods. If there is White Supremacy in the South, there should be a conversation about the Racism in low income White Neighborhoods, etc.
>Where do you draw this arbitrary line of tolerance?
When the individuals being tolerated are physically against the people tolerating them. That is where the line ends.

Waiting for the sun to die out, aren't you?
The cultures are very much different. Mongolia doesn't have a drug problem, and still lives like it's the 1200's in Yurts

>its due to racism
>Europe's success is due to racism
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>people wouldn't be constantly flooding whatever societies are the best until all the societies are shit.
You are retarded

Fpbp

>le moral relativist moderate face

Fuck off OP

WE ALL BEEZ DA SAME N SHEEIT NIGGA

>people shouldn't have a high horse until they go to a shithole country and turn it into a Western-Tier civilization
This has been done multiple times. And then when the shithole natives take over or kick out the whites, it returns to being a shithole.

Every time.

Anta baka?

>The forced diversification is only happening as a result of Racism and previous division.
So this is a punishment then?

How much longer do people need to have their identities erased for? How much longer does the conflict need to last before we "learn" enough for this to stop? Will it ever stop?

Once you erase a culture it doesn't just bounce back, once it's gone it's gone.

>When the individuals being tolerated are physically against the people tolerating them. That is where the line ends.
I take it you were too young to see liberals under the Bush years.

Europe's success is due to resource acquisition, Military development, cultural and social development and Philosophical development. They didn't simply rise because they subjugated the Africans, or turned the then equal in power Chinese into a trading slum.
>Jaded Cynic
>I can only communicate in caricatures because I actually have a brain tumor
How can you blame them? With most colonies being used as a resource factory, they couldn't really be self sufficient.
>What is Reconstruction
yes, but it is not in order to erase identity. That's a stupid reactionary argument to rile people up. It is to punish those who rose an army to go to war with people who allowed such integration from the start.
>I take it you were too young to see liberals under the Bush years.
Wrong, Seen it. They were just a malformed reaction to what they thought was a Reactionary right president.

Ha u tell em OP. Fucking stupid peple having oponiouns and conviketions and stuff. Hehe retards xD.

>Hurr durr so retarded hurrrr

Proofs?

They never utilized the resources they had in the first place, and refused to learn.

The Chinese and the Arabs outclassed the Whites in every way during the Middle Ages

Ideologies swap because they are all flawed, hence why no country based on a single ideal ever is permanent

Borders change, empires rise and fall

Nobody is inherently better than the other even by genetic standards, we all have some downfall or affliction compared to another

>What is Reactionary Culture

>yes, but it is not in order to erase identity.
And yet it does. The American way of life is getting trashed in the name of globalism. Give up your status as a citizen, give up you right to free speech, give up your right to bear arms, etc. You've heard the argument before so I will spare you it.

So the end must justify the means then?

>They were just a malformed reaction to what they thought was a Reactionary right president.
And yet they were Physically opposed to people that tolerated them. That is where the line should end, right?

Name to me how exactly the entire identity of the United States is being wiped out? Without Globalism, you wouldn't have the Internet or Satellite TV. Nobody is giving up anything, but I'll agree to disagree with you on this one.

>So the end must justify the means then?
Absolutely. Those who betrayed their government to succumb to an ideology of division should be punished until they stop dividing. But there should NEVER be forced integration. Only the natural as usual Integration.
>And yet they were Physically opposed to people that tolerated them. That is where the line should end, right?
Riot Police exist, correct?

>No Race is superior to the other Race
Correct. Every race has adapted to their own enviornment and is best suited in their enviornment, which is why in societies today we see certain races dominating in certain positions.

>No Ideology is superior to the other ideology
Wrong. If my ideology is to breed as many children as possible and kill as many people who arent my children, that is bad. Compare that to an Ideology of peace and no violence, the peaceful ideology is superior.

>No country is better than the other
Compare Saudi Arabi to sweden and see the differences. Well... Actually today there probably aren't that many.

>Everybody and everything is flawed.
Correct

>Get off you high horses you collective of LARPers
Stop virtue signaling on a Khazastani Underwater basket weaving forum you moore ron

>This doesn't just include NatSocs
Yes it does, fuck off

because you are all god's, duh.
fucking retarded gods albeit though.

>Every race has adapted to their own enviornment and is best suited in their enviornment
While this is Biologically true, the limiting of people to their own corners of the world by force will limit the Gene pool and thus destroy humanity in the future
> If my ideology is to breed as many children as possible and kill as many people who arent my children, that is bad. Compare that to an Ideology of peace and no violence, the peaceful ideology is superior.
In reference the Ideology, I was more referring to mainstream political ideologies. This is a fringe Ideology that most others would view as a bad ideology automatically
>Compare Saudi Arabi to sweden and see the differences. Well... Actually today there probably aren't that many.
Funny Joek, but in all seriousness, borders will change. One country will fall over the other. While the current countries in the west preside over the rest, none is inherently superior.
>Correct
Yes
>Stop virtue signaling on a Khazastani Underwater basket weaving forum you moore ron
Are you even speaking english?
>Yes it does, fuck off
I said it doesn't JUST include NatSocs. Commies and Anarchists and etc are all to blame as well. Nobody is safe.
Weird egoist sentiment

>Name to me how exactly the entire identity of the United States is being wiped out?
Rap culture, Drug problems, erasing the nuclear family. You would have to be complete oblivious to say that the American way of life hasn't changed a fuckton in the last 40 years.

>Without Globalism, you wouldn't have the Internet or Satellite TV.
Globalization =/= Globalism

>Absolutely
I don't consider you my countryman then. You have no moral compass and have no idea the way of life your killing off.

>But there should NEVER be forced integration. Only the natural as usual Integration.
Why stop at just punishing them for dividing? And pro-tip we already force integration, see section 8 and affirmative action.

And hypocrite you are to say your okay with people naturally wanting to live among their own, yet claim to point out division in people is something to be discouraged. They are two sides to the same coin.

>none is inherently superior.
Clearly the ones that have practices and culture that leads to healthier people or technological advances are.

>Rap culture, Drug problems, erasing the nuclear family. You would have to be complete oblivious to say that the American way of life hasn't changed a fuckton in the last 40 years.
That's society reacting to it's surroundings. Rap Culture rose due to an increase in Poverty in Black Neighborhoods due to Jobs being lost, Drugs came after this, And the Nuclear Family isn't being erased as much as you'd think. the Nuclear Family is a natural family. Unnatural families come from a variety of different variables.
>Globalization =/= Globalism
"The concept of globalism now is most commonly used to refer to different ideologies advocating globalization."
>I don't consider you my countryman then. You have no moral compass and have no idea the way of life your killing off.
That's funny, because I am your countryman no matter what. By law, officially, and Legally. Unless you're from Mexico or Canada or Some other country, you cannot say this.
>Why stop at just punishing them for dividing? And pro-tip we already force integration, see section 8 and affirmative action.
The reason things like these are being criticized is due to Neoliberalism. Companies found out that making themselves and impoverished areas look temporarily saved from their poverty and gentrified makes their brand look good.
>And hypocrite you are to say your okay with people naturally wanting to live among their own, yet claim to point out division in people is something to be discouraged. They are two sides to the same coin.
Am I a Hypocrite to allow for the variable of people's choice?
Refer to previous statements, 900 years ago the Mongols led the world. Things like this change

In addition to
>Why stop at just punishing them for dividing? And pro-tip we already force integration, see section 8 and affirmative action.
there are two excuses to keep these policies in effect. One excuse is that racism still exists in the South, and another is that people look good enforcing these policies. With the latter being reflective of Neoliberalism.

>OP has the inability to draw objective conclusions

There are actually multiple metrics by which one can determine whether a system, like a country and its pursuits, are successful and worthy of emulation. Start with the HDI, it's really not that hard.

How is the peaceful one "superior"? Have you read Darwin?

>There are actually multiple metrics by which one can determine whether a system, like a country and its pursuits, are successful and worthy of emulation. Start with the HDI, it's really not that hard.
You'll have to explain to me what the HDI is, user. Sry4beanRetarded

Darwinism only applies to Nature, not Civilized Modern Society.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

Typed HDI into google. You might have poopbrain.

but i'm a solipsist

Ahh, thank you user. Since this is relative development to current leading countries, this does in fact show Western Countries as being superior. Now, at least.
Who's to say how the power will shift in the future? It certainly has in the past. This will not stay the same, that's a fact of life.
>Tfw ur mind is immortal

That's what I used to think too. But seeing a lot of cultures disappear that I like (for example the japanese) made me think again. Would a superior culture give up its existence in the name of its peaceful ways, or rather go to war, in order to live peacefully once again?

That is Westernization in Asia. Surely you can see how what we view as "Civilized" can be seen to them as "Culturally Regressive". However, the Idea that culture is to remain the same throughout eternity is flawed, no country in the history of history has ever remained the same without being undeveloped.

>tfw larpers ruined this board

when will joot finally nuke this place?

>That's society reacting to it's surroundings.
People advocating ethnocentrism are just reacting to their surroundings.

>my one definition of globalization is definitive law
Globalism is mixing all people and cultures, where obviously some get erased.
Globalization is working and trading together.

>By law
Yes, by law you are my countryman. And exclusively by law :^)

>Am I a Hypocrite to allow for the variable of people's choice?
Your a hypocrite for presenting people the illusion of choice, and if they disagree with you then they shall be "punished until they stop"

>No Race is superior to the other Race
I am pretty sure opossums are more advanced than abbos and they are not even human.

>its a all of Sup Forums is /r9k/ episode again
fucking hate this repeat

>People advocating ethnocentrism are just reacting to their surroundings.
People advocating for Diversity are just reacting to their surroundings
>>my one definition of globalization is definitive law
The dictionary definition of "Globalism" is Definitive law
>Yes, by law you are my countryman. And exclusively by law :^)
Yes, cast me out due to a differing opinion. This divisiveness in our country will be what causes the fires of Washington just as they have in Rome.
>illusion of choice
They have a choice, Come or stay. That is no Illusion. The people that the Southerners discriminated against had no choice to come to the South, hence why this is wrong.
Even though this is wrong I fucking Kek'd
>Jaded Cynic wants to disregard conversation amongst "Jaded Cynics" because Jaded Cynic is a Hipster

>People advocating for Diversity are just reacting to their surroundings
And yet here you are trying to sway Sup Forumss opinoin of things. Guess not that many people are buying that diversity product anymore.

>The dictionary definition of "Globalism" is Definitive law
No it isn't. Globalization is an economic process.

In contrast, globalism is the belief that we share one fragile planet whose survival requires mutual respect and careful treatment of all its people and its environment. Globalism is also a set of values and ethical beliefs requiring active practice in our day-to-day lives.

>Yes, cast me out due to a differing opinion.
I would rather see this country balkanize. America is in a bad relationship, we should just break up. You don't want to live with me and I sure as hell don't want to live with you, why force the issue?

>They have a choice, Come or stay.
So your forcing people out of there homes then? Exactly what you accused me of attempting? In the very same post even?

How old are you? Be honest with me.

you debate like a child
go back to plebbit

>And yet here you are trying to sway Sup Forumss opinoin of things. Guess not that many people are buying that diversity product anymore.
I know I am swaying nobody. I am only here to present an opposing opinion in an echo chamber.
>No it isn't. Globalization is an economic process.
You said Globalism in the first reply. Not Globalization. Either way, they are about the same.
"Globalization is a process of interaction and integration among the people, companies, and governments of different nations, a process driven by international trade and investment and aided by information technology."

"The concept of globalism now is most commonly used to refer to different ideologies advocating globalization."

>I would rather see this country balkanize. America is in a bad relationship, we should just break up. You don't want to live with me and I sure as hell don't want to live with you, why force the issue?
That's a (you) problem. Millions of other Americans don't give a shit, because their lives are not dominated by the religion of politics.
>So your forcing people out of there homes then? Exactly what you accused me of attempting? In the very same post even?
There is no force to this. They have a choice that they can make or decide on their own, that they particularly don't even have to think about making. It's not an ultimatum, it's freedom.
>How old are you? Be honest with me.
As if age matters on a board of faceless nameless people with opinions. You could be a bot for all I know. Just know, I am not underage b& material

>I disagree with you so you must be physically immature! HAHAAAA
Welcome to Sup Forums, Newfag.

>muh Sup Forums is an echo chamber
pic related

>You said Globalism in the first reply
I said Globalism pertaining to erasing peoples culture, which is still true.

>"The concept of globalism now is most commonly used to refer to different ideologies advocating globalization."
They are still not the same thing. They are not opposed but certainly not mutually exclusive.

>That's a (you) problem.
You accused me of trying to cast you out, I don't want that. I want separation.

> It's not an ultimatum, it's freedom
And yet time and time again it's been demonstrated by the left that if you don't tote the PC line they will attack you. Verbally and physically, online and in real life. Hypocrite you are.

>As if age matters
Just asking as a curiosity.

"I HAVE EVIDENCE RIGHT HERE"

"well no I don't, but trust my belief, see because I'm acting smug"

I lost my reply because my browser fucked itself, so I'll make this short and sweet
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Pol is an echo chamber due to the similar opinion amongst the majority of people in the board
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Globalism regards to the linkage of cultures financially and via trade or communication, which may impact culture, but culture is not inherently a solid entity. Culture is forever changing. If we retained culture forever we would be fucking dogs and wearing loincloths.
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Building fences around something is merely just hiding it. A form of "Casting something away"
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It's also been demonstrated by the right that if you do not agree with them they will do the same, that is extremism. Extremism is bad on all sides if you haven't already guessed
>
That's okay, I just value my privacy

>Pol is an echo chamber due to the similar opinion amongst the majority of people in the board
With no banning for different opinions and tons of (you)s if you post shit people disagree with.

>Culture is forever changing.
Agreed.
It's not protecting the culture so it stays stagnant, it's developing it and nurturing it to make it something greater.

>If we retained culture forever we would be fucking dogs and wearing loincloths.
What's wrong with that though? I though all cultures were equal :^)

>It's also been demonstrated by the right that if you do not agree with them they will do the same
Yeah, I sure remember all those riots when Obama was elected.

>Building fences around something is merely just hiding it. A form of "Casting something away"
It's just people reacting to their environment bro.

Also just a effective use of resources to combat a crime and drug problem that you libshits want to keep ignoring.

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It's not a reaction to the environment. It's shifting the Environment around you to appease your opinion. Also, Balkanizing the US will not solve anything. It'll break up a Superpower into a bunch of European-like Countries
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(You)s of disagreement. Rarely can an opposing idea come here with agreement
>
Developing and nurturing a culture is the same as having a culture and progressing, as we currently are. We are progressing. In 50 years you'll love your culture if we go down the same path. It's just that right now, we are ignorant. we want the past because we are fed that the past was better.
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In a relative sense, that's not okay. We are equal as people and we all have our quirks. This was more of a statement that you could relate to.
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I sure do remember those Nature reserves being taken by force

Unfortunately I'm going to have to abandon thread now, user. Good non-shit tier talk. Hopefully we'll never see each other.

>It'll break up a Superpower into a bunch of European-like Countries
That's the point. Be like Switzerland.

>Rarely can an opposing idea come here with agreement
Your made because Sup Forums isn't YOUR echo chamber, got it.

>We are progressing
To what? A society where your race and gender are social constructs but your weight is genetic.

Get the fuck off my board Liberal shill.

>No Race is superior to the other Race
The premise reaffirms the generally held belief here, that race does exist. Saying one race is better than another is like saying a Chihuahua is better/worse than a Great Dane.

Of course not, each thing on this earth is specifically and especially designed and evolved to excel in certain environments. Naturally, some creatures are better at certain things than others.

Caucasians are simply better at constructing civilizations. This makes them better at surviving and operating a civilization.

>No Ideology is superior to the other ideology
Ideology is a meme, literally. A meme is something which isn't a tangible physical property, but is reproduced and evolves over time, it seeks it's own replication.

Much like how a specific gene is best for operating in certain contexts, memes are exactly the same. Ideology is just a manifestation of the zeitgeist of a collective societal organism, and as such, some are likely to work best than others.

>No country is better than the other
The nature of the group and tribe is exclusion, only then is it's reality solidified. Much like how I prefer my own family to other families, a country is just an extension of this physiological inclination.

>Everybody and everything is flawed.
Too bad you're flawed, I'm trying to improve my reality on an individual level. Recognizing flaws in your immediate existence means you should be capable of fixing them.

Lets not jump to better. Let's start with different.
Can you agree that things are different ?