Why is Trump such a dick to Japan about our military bases...

Why is Trump such a dick to Japan about our military bases? Is he literally retarded and uneducated as to America's role in Japan?

To put it bluntly, America has Japan by the balls. The rope is so tightly around those balls, in fact, that we went as far as to make sure Japan has no ability to attack another country, to the point that their very constitution forbids it. Japan's security is America. Period.

Check out some of the treaties America has made Japan sign over the decades. Start with this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_9_of_the_Japanese_Constitution

I think Trump needs to read these as well.

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>why is the president elect saying foreign countries need to start pulling their own weight?
I dunno man, but this is a really great thread. I can't wait to see where it goes.

Seems to me that it'd be near impossible for them to pull their own weight

>pulling their own weight

a) They already pay us, b) They can barely defend themselves and are running around like cucks thinking America is going to leave them to the whims of China and North Korea.

Trump is retarded, just admit it.

Then they will sink. That's their problem, not ours.

No, it's America's problem, for binding them to these treaties. If Trump fucks them on it then he'll ruin good relations we've managed to establish and give us yet another enemy in the east.

We made it ours when we put them in the position they're in by installing their borderline puppet government back in the day

>making an enemy with a country that cant even defend itself
>somehow bad
What are they going to do? Draw Chinese cartoons about how bad we are?

Maybe they shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor then. That's their fuck up.

So we'll just let communist governments move in on them, because that's a good idea, right?

China is literally in border disputes with Japan already and trying to claim ownership of their territory. If America backed down as their defense, China's hate boner for Japan would show no mercy.

If you're still okay with that, you're either a troll or a massive faggot.

Burgers would repeal article nine in a heartbeat. Japan's libcucks are against it

Who said I have to like what China is doing?

Tell Nippon to buy their own fucking defenses. If they refuse and China moves in, then go ahead and defend Japan to simply stave off China, not actually defend Japan. I don't know why you keep making all these assumptions when I say Japan needs to pay its own fucking way.

I realize that "pay ur own way" is a slogan that numbskull conservatives have indoctrinated into you for years, but it doesn't apply to every situation.

I can just about guarantee that you mooch off of various people yourself.

We need Japan to become a full-fledged ally of the USA. We need to Japan to build up a real military that can project force, and then we can combine our strength to really keep China in check.

We can do that without jerking their balls.

>all this baseless assumption
Na, you're just being retarded famalam.

>If America backed down as their defense, China's hate boner for Japan would show no mercy.

You fundamentally misunderstand what Trump wants to do. Trump wants our allies to get stronger, so we can pay less. He doesn't want to abandon our allies.

Golly gee we better keep preventing Japan from attacking Pearl Harbor again because once we leave Tojo is going to come back from the grave.

You don't make them stronger by saying "you gotta pay more or we're leaving".

That's Trump not understanding the situation, not having some master plan.

>This weeabo cuck

I don't care if China comes and takes over those nips. You're just gonna be butt mad when China puts a trading block aid on anime.

>being this much of a Trump cuck

I didn't think one group of people could fight over one tiny dick as much as you sissies do.

>That's Trump not understanding the situation, not having some master plan.

japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/12/02/national/politics-diplomacy/abe-trump-agreed-boost-alliance-november-talks-envoy/

>Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and U.S. President-elect Donald Trump agreed when they met last month in New York to strengthen the bilateral alliance, Japan’s ambassador to the United States said Thursday.

>“As a result of this informal meeting in New York, they agreed on the importance of the alliance between Japan and the United States, and they agreed that we could do more,” Kenichiro Sasae said at a think-tank event in Washington.

Either they will get stronger and pay less or they will pay what our protection is worth.

>Japan's security is America. Period.
Literally why? Why the fuck is their security our responsibility? Why is half of the world kept free only through spilled American blood? ESPECIALLY when all of those places claim to hate us anyways?

>B-b-but their Constitution!
Not our fucking problem. Get it ammended and pony up for an actual military real soon, Nips. This isn't WW2 anymore, the US isn't going to be upset if Japan (and for that matter, Europe) builds a big boy defense force.

And yet after the meeting he was still being retarded.


Nope. That's not how the world works. The Republican establishment that controls the country will not let him do it.

If you weren't mentally retarded and would read anything about the treaties and history involved you would understand why their security is our problem. We made it our problem, on purpose.

Actually, who am I kidding, this place is full of so many retarded Trumpcucks that there's no point in trying to have intelligent conversation.

Kill yourselves, niggers.

If you are going to be evicted for not paying rent, then you can either get a job or prepare for a life on the streets, that's EXACTLY how the real world works mate

>And yet after the meeting he was still being retarded.

It seems all you want to do is shit on Trump and not actually talk about foreign policy

>Nope. That's not how the world works. The Republican establishment that controls the country will not let him do it.

asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/Policy-Politics/Japan-s-defense-budget-to-hit-record-high

>TOKYO -- Japan's defense budget is expected to reach a record-high 5.1 trillion yen ($44.6 billion) for fiscal 2017, as the country bolsters its ability to defend against North Korea and China.

>The sum, which include costs for relocating U.S. military personnel, is set for approval by the cabinet as early as Dec. 22. It would mark the fifth consecutive annual increase in defense outlays.

>The budget follows the government's midterm defense program, which is developed every five years. The 2014-2018 plan, formulated by the Abe administration, calls for annual increases of 0.8% on average. The uptick in fiscal 2017 will likely fall in line with that.

>automatically call me a cuck and make personal attacks

First off your insult doesn't even make sense. No one is fighting, it's just no one gives a fuck. I don't have any relations to Japan and Japan hates American people. A cuck would be you for wanting to defend the very people who despises you.

The average American doesn't care or thinks good riddance. You're just sperging out because "muh anime! muh strong Japanese samurai!"

Either they pay up if they want protection or they fend for themselves.

And if you had the reading comprehension of a 5th grader, you would see that I was saying it's time for us to change that fact.

>Japan hates American people

False.

Post the article if you are so great.

I ain't giving Wikipedia clicks.

I said people. I like Germany but I hate their people. Huge difference.

Where is your evidence?

What are you even talking about? Jap girls will fuck your brains out in Japan simply because you are American.

And OP, Trump is not so dumb as to take out every base in Japan. In fact, I really doubt the situation will change much at all, but Japan will probably start to develop a larger military of their own, and maybe start paying us for our bases a bit, either one is good.

A strong Japan will help balance against a rising China. True after WW2 Japan was demilitarised but that was 70 years ago when Japan was the biggest threat in Asia but the times have changed and now China is the regions hegemon.

Trump is in favour of a strong Japan he has even indicated that he wants Japan to have the nuclear weapon. I really dont see a problem with this? China is the threat not Japan so who gives a fuck if Japan increases its military capacity the only nation this is a problem for is China

Hasn't Japan been lobbying for the US to withdraw their bases? You're getting what you want, now stop whining about it.

...

hey american

china is a problem for us
china is a problem for japan

the US and japan are kind of allies.

japan's kind of like a wall against chinese communism

no one's dicking anyone. they're trying to stop the chinese government.

>Trump is going to let Japan have a military again!
Yeah, next thing you know Germany will be able to amend their Constitution without America's approval.

yfw Trump is getting the band back together.

Fuck off weeb

Trump just made a $50bil trade deal with Japan. Cry more cuckbois.

Japan should have its own military. This would be good for their national morale and will lighten the pocketbook of the USA.

>Weeb who thinks he knows better than japans leader

Wew lad

THIS IS A LIE

I WENT TO JAPAN LAST SUMMER AND NO ONE

I MEAN NO ONE WANTED TO FUCK
its because I'm chubby ;_;

did you even try?

Even the Japanese government said they don't take everything he said during the election at face value before meeting with him.

That said, a lot of comments make it clear he's kind of talking out his ass.

Because Japan, as Europe (and CH) should move its ass and stop assuming things get done just by themselves. Luxury is nice, but someone has to go do the dirty job. Especially when shit hits the fan.

>To put it bluntly, America has Japan by the balls

Are you fucking ignorant? The relationship with the US and Japan is nothing like that. We are literally BFF. The Japanese are by far our strongest ally in the pacific. Furthermore they are working on legislation in the national diet to remove the military restrictions. They wan't to fucking send their military to help the US.

Honestly I would tell the UK to fuck off before Japan

>Hasn't Japan been lobbying for the US to withdraw their bases

Okinawans maybe, and even then, they just wanted them moved since they shoulder 70% of the US forces in japan.

yes. I traveled through out japan. going to rural areas, cities and shit.

Talked to many girls and tried to lead them to private place

"dame"
"kangaeteokimasu"
"..."

What's wrong with Switzerland?

how tall are you pham? maybe you're just ugly

you have nothing exept 1800 bln depts in China . China has you under control. Japs will have an gas fuel and ore agreement with Russia . China will expand in Asia .

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Japan actually does pull their weight pretty well. The government has said that, due to the kickbacks and money they get from Japan, it's actually cheaper to station troops in Japan than it would be to station those same troops in the US.

>They wan't to fucking send their military to help the US.

They can do that since the changes to Mutual Defence Treaty last year. Massive protests to it.

> tried to lead them to private place

When you say it like that, it sounds a bit rapey, to be honest..

I'm Six foot

Maybe I'm just ugly or I'm just too chubby for them

I'm 220.

>Draft all NEETs

Suicide forest needs to be bigger if its gonna fit all the suicidal students out there.

In order for that to happen there needs to be trees which means more fertilizer, so more dead students to bury themselves out there.

It's quite simple really.

Abe was the first leader he met with. That's hardly an insult.

He's shaping up to be the stick-it-to-Chainuh president and he needs to know who's got the balls.

Well, do you want me to explain exactly how I tried to get a date, give a blog post on my failure or do you want a tl;dr

shut up english teacher

Unless you're trying to shag a club slut, the vast majority of women aren't putting out on the first few dates.

Chug more dicks, I work in Finance.

>Upcoming ambassador to Japan

Really makes you think.

It wasn't even that. Stop assuming dumb nigga

I couldn't even get a date.

Club sluts are easy shit. I avoided that scene.

Were you nanpaing or meeting them with friends, etc.?

eh, Japs actually don't hate fat foreigners that much. Do you have acne? Do you wear non-autistic clothes?

Japan hates everything that isn't Japan.

No they really don't, and even if the person in question is not a fan for foreigners they will generally treat you with respect and try their best to keep situation calm.

As long as you do the same and try not make any waves you will be fine

Nanpaing girls I met and talked with.

Like this one girl in Yokohama, we were having a chat and shit, this lasted for a while and she was laughing etc. We talked about our lives since we were both in our mid 20s. I asked if she wanted to go out for dinner.
"let me think about it" and then we departed.

I hanged out with couple guys I met in some tokyo district that I can't remember. Full of stores and shit place. not weeb.
They asked if I wanted to go to a mix with them, they told the girls they had a white man with em and they were interested. Especially after the guys sent a picture of me to em.
I show up. NOT A SINGLE ONE even talked to me. They asked the typical questions you would get from family members. "what do you do" "how is america" and that's it.

>Acne
nope, besides my ass.
>non-autistic clothes
I don't even know what you mean by this since people throw autistic at anything.
I wore blue jeans most of the time and what ever plaid or collar shirt I had. I'm not a fashion guy. I don't know how to explain my shirts. I shop at Kohls.

>So we'll just let communist governments move in on them, because that's a good idea, right?
We can do what we did in WW2, nuke them some more.

Calm down dickward. WWII is over. You nuked them. Now calm the fuck down.

Lousy. In my experience, when they say they'll think about it (or that they're busy), it's a polite no.

And if they're mid to late 20s, mixers are for people looking for marriage material.

Oh I know.

One of the first things I learned about Japan is the polite no since they don't wanna out right say no.

And I know about the mixer thing, that's why I was okay with going. The guys were egging me on to do it. Some of them were looking for a girl to be with. These were like coworkers girls or whatever. The reason why I was hanging out with these guys was because I'm a teacher here in the states and the first dude I talked to was also a teacher.

I got turned down by like 30 plus women. Even a woman in her thirties who was complaining to me about being single and when I asked if she wanted to go out for a date with me.
"chotto... uhh"
and changed the subject. :/

khv?

No.
I'm not a virgin forever alone.

I just struck out hard as fuck in Japan.

He is working to make Japan independent again, so they can be a proper ally instead of a liability or a simple asset. It will be easy for the Japanese people to build a new constitution and they are willing to do so should we give them the opportunity.

:(

oh my god I know the problem, you're not white right?

mystery solved!

>It will be easy for the Japanese people to build a new constitution and they are willing to do so

No, not even close. The reinterpretation of the MDT had hundreds of thousands protesting in the streets, which is basically unheard of here. To say nothing of literal fistfights.

Going after Article 9 would trigger riots, IMO.

I'm white as fuck.

What

What the fuck?

>isn't a khv
>tall
>not too fat
>white
You must be autistic then, there's no other way around it. Either that or you smelled bad that day.

>You must be autistic then
Slow down on the go to be all comment, bro.

I just caulk it up to either coming on to strong or they just didn't want to go out with me.

The whole "Japanese girls are crazy for white guys" is a pretty big meme, I know an American here who looks like he could be an American Eagle model, but he struggles to get girls to go out with him because he's a bit of an angry splerglord. Meanwhile a pretty fat guy I know does well because he's good at making women laugh.

>Re-interpretation
There's your issue.

G'd evening dumbfuck,

He's talking about NATO. The U.S. pays more for defense than the rest of the world COMBINED. NATO countries like to tout socialism because they can afford it(we pay the most expensive bill, we are their military). Not any more.