Should the US accelerate K12 education and implement a mandatory military/civil service for juniors/senior high...

Should the US accelerate K12 education and implement a mandatory military/civil service for juniors/senior high schoolers before they turn 18 to help remedy the NEET problems?

Like a hitler's youth program

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Other possible benefits include:
> better appreciation to 2nd Amendment
> healthier and fitter people during the prime teenage growth hormones years
> helps produce better drivers if vehicle training involved
> helps foster citizenship
> can supplement local/regional government fire department, emergency response, etc
> should not affect main military branches

US should just have a mandatory draft like other countries do, everyone serves 2 when they turn 18.

Hell yes, not just the US, I'd love it if Australia did the same.
They'd need to keep standards high through, and find something for the kids who can't hack it, some sort of compulsory community service, like helping with a soup kitchen or something. Things like this have so much potential to do so much good for a nation in my opinion.
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Yes, of course. Mandatory military service would be incredibly good for this country.

>better drivers

Im sold

Yes

Libertarians btfo if this happens

How does this help 23 year old NEET hikkis like me?

Never had a job.

>Should the US accelerate K12 education and implement a mandatory military/civil service for juniors/senior high schoolers before they turn 18 to help remedy the NEET problems?

What is the primary CAUSE of NEETism?

And try not to use answers that involve blaming the NEETs.

Be more imaginative than that.

>should we draft people before they are legally adults
mmmmmmmm yeah I just love sucking the state's dick mm mm tasty bootlickin good

why don't we give them mandatory gender changes as well so they won't be virgins

Yes.

Everyone should do like a half year then reserve duty when they are 18 for all the mentioned problems, civics, learn to drive a car, learn to shoot a rifle, etc.

Yes, those that don't join the military can join groups like the CCC, WPA, or TVA and build infrastructure. Would be an amazing thing for the entire country.

Dunno, usually to help out NEETs
The first thing is to get them accustomed to being around people and reducing their anxieties in my honest opinion

For older NEETs, hmm, maybe get a comfy min wage job at the mall or something and interact with girls all day?

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Military should only be mandatory for those that are NEET or have no intention of higher education, otherwise it's two years down the drain for people who are going to be otherwise productive.
If you adjust your education system to be over by 16, you may have a point.

I'm ok with this

Imo, social anxiety, lack of motivations, depression

A lot of factors (like being bullied or being ugly or just being a faggot in general) leads one to escape the world ("fuck this gay earth")

Internet porn and daily masturbation leads one to organism and release dopemine and mess up their brain reward system... this paired with youth hormones leads one to get comfy with neet escapist lifestyle until NEET

but op, forcing the kiddies to do work and better themselves would be "oppressive"

This is such an incredibly stupid idea that I am going to respond.
Our military is fucked right now because until the election of Trump it was run by traitors (technically it still is until January).
Before that, its biggest problem was being seen as a magic health spa for "fixing" people. It is not a health spa, it is the military. People who need fixing need fixing, maybe psychological help, maybe a trade. They do not need to be saddled onto the back of a soldier who has already got enough to deal with.

Send the liberals, sjws

To NASA, Army Corp of Engineers, medical wings and emergency rooms, fire departments, police stations

They will get redpill really quick. They dont even have to work, just shadows the adult doing the job like an apprenticeship. Learn how the real world operate

Wouldn't having sex do the same thing since you still "finish" and if you have sex everyday it's basically the same thing as messing with the reward receptors. It's not like the vagina has magic replenishments to re-uptake your dopamine

Probably a horrible idea. Spain couldn't buck that shit quick enough, military time is awful for relationships, it probably would just grow dissent against an overreaching government over time (like it often does when a nation isn't at war or has clear and visible threats), and will likely just result in people hating the government more.

If people hate the idea of having their right to a gun or a free press taken away, imagine how bad it would be if they suddenly were told they had to join the army too? Enforcement would be terrible, the optics would be awful, a lot of people would protest, and people would just vote people in who would stop the policy.

And, chances are, it'd just waste a lot of government money (it's insanely expensive to train soldiers) and grow the national debt.

Hell, I didn't even get into the fact that this could lead to an increase in the severity of mass shootings. Remember how bad it was when that ex-soldier went crazy a few months ago and, with just a sniper rifle, killed a bunch of cop and took a ton of effort to take down?

This is quiet a rational look on the subject.
I would love if my nation had compulsory service. I think it would do a massive amount of good.
So to offset the negatives you said, perhaps bring it in stages over a 15-20 year period. First offer massive incentives for the youth to join.
Then say if you want your NEET bux you've got to join if you haven't worked or studied for a year then full blown compulsory.
Obviously this would have to be fine tuned, but it works really well in countries like Finland and ... Singapore..? Random asian country.
In terms of cost, take it out of the NEET bux fund. The amount of money wasted on them is just silly.
Plus we can avoid pic related and the degeneracy

>Imo, social anxiety, lack of motivations, depression

Do you think that these may be symptoms of a different underlying problem?

We have a program called JRTOC in High school, which feeds into ROTC in college.

The fact that most americans dont take advantage of this is another issue

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What is causing these people to withdraw from society?

all i see is mindless drones trying to format an intellectually superior hard drive

Jrotc is full of dorky losers in highschool (like band geeks, and weeb normie gamers)

In college, ROTC is full of jocks and engineers, these guys are going to become commissioned officers so their position is much better in the military hierarchy

Tons of social factors growing up. Being rejected as a kid, being "that guy", cringey stuff... leading to withdrawal and embracing anime and internet porn (cause it's safe, orgasms feels good, mum will provide tendies). Even poor parenting can contribute a major deal to the mentally of the hopeless

Perhaps there are NEETs who live a hikko lifestyle and can make millions of dollar per week trading equities... but what are the odds, most neet lack that talent and knowledge

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>Tons of social factors growing up. Being rejected as a kid

So, social ostracism causes this?

Thes one factor in my opinion

Another could be genetic/epigenetics, diet, autism, some people are proned to bad brain development (meth babies, alcoholic babies, etc)

Some things could push the chemical in one direction leading to a fucked up brain development. Like some white people are genetically prone to schizo, and symptoms starts shows up in 20yo+ males...those high risk males who smoke weed, drink alcohol, do hard stuff could fuck the brain chemistry even more and trigger schizo earlier until it's FUBAR

The army isn't cut out for everybody. Even basic training was easy as fuck, but we still lost like 40 guys out of a class of 245. If you graduate basic training you'll almost definitely graduate infantry ait. However I can't say the same for the other mos' because they are more technically demanding rather than physically demanding. Most people wont be okay with their kids joining infantry though. On top of that most retards would have no clue how to act at their first duty station leading to loss of army espirit de corps. Just enroll kids in scouts or summer camps that do all the same shit. As far as trying to push the whole country into the army I think it might lower army standards too much.

I dont want them in the regular force

Rather have them in a compulsary military/civil service training to supplement highschool before 18

Give them tax credits to spend on college after service. If they forgo college and work, they can volunteer in the main branches and redo their regular training. I think of it like boot camp kindergarten

>Another could be genetic/epigenetics, diet, autism, some people are proned to bad brain development (meth babies, alcoholic babies, etc)

Oh, I see... so what you are saying, is that people who were socially ostracized have bad genetics, and should be weeded from the gene pool, yes?

I wonder if this perspective could be weaponized to get a nation to agree to killing off it's own males, while importing another nations males?

I can agree with that. I really only want people joining who want to be in and that goes for all mos'. We have enough fuck ups as is we don't need any more.

Hnnnngh We. Need. This.

It could be a good way to weed out the lazy shits who'll cut corners and those unfit/unwilling to represent America. Those who excel can get incentives to join while those who perform poorly could be shamed into being productive, maybe.

Nah fuck that. I don't need the military to be "patriotic".

But muh basic income!

Good.

Oh fuck this is such a good discussion,

Have 17-18 year old trained, station all the girls/guys at elementary schools doing security (xray, bag check, help defend against school threats)

Boost security in public venues like courts, TSA transportion, and speed up security checks at various chokepoints.

Cycle the kids around so they dont get used to one spot, while teaching them to interact with the general public in real world scenarios

security provided by the kids would be crude since they are just kids, but an additional layer on top of standard security would be good

He is scared because he is being surrounded by niggers

I don't want a whole bunch of liberals that hate our country proficient in firearms

They won't be liberals for long if you place them in police stations, fire departments, and emergency responders.. they will be 'pilled real quick when they see niggers in action

our education system is fucked. kids are getting dumber because retards keep holding them back.

smarter kids should be allowed to graduate faster. it shouldn't be really easy to do but should be attainable so that kids can strive for it and set a goal for themselves. Every kid hates school. So if you give them a choice to get out quicker, then believe me they'll do it.

Let kids freely move up and remove the freshman/sophmore/junior/senior labels.

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mandatory service. yes
service before the age of consent. no

Mandatory service pre-18 + voluntary service post-18

That's a good combo for a strong military

What the US high school curriculum should be including as requirements, instead of the mess it is now that leaves students unprepared for the world:

-1 year World History
-1 year US History
-1 year modern history (1945-2001)
-1 year recent history and current events (2001-present)

-4 years English/reading comprehension/writing

-1 year life science survey (biology, zoology, ecology, etc)
-1 year physical science survey (chemistry, physics, geology, astronomy)
-1 semester each macro and micro economics
-1 semester US political science, 1 semester international poli-sci
-1 year of business, where they actually teach students HOW to start a business in their particular locality
-1 year of basic algebra and 1 year applied geometry/trig (implying anyone except scientists doctors and engineers actually use more advanced math other than in school)
-1 semester of logic/critical thinking philosophy
-1 semester of health and nutrition

What should be downsized

-Sports/PE (can be outsourced instead of an everyday class)
-Foreign languages (best learned in a non-classroom environment and not while trying to do 5 academic subjects as well)

When I was in high school 10 years ago, the narrative was that you're a loser unless you get into university and then land a white collar office job or become a doctor or engineer. This reinforces black and white thinking about life and economy, why not instead prepare students to go into the trades or start businesses instead of pushing them all towards the University?

>why not instead prepare students to go into the trades or start businesses instead of pushing them all towards the University?
Because universities want to make money off of students.

No, fuck off
People don't feel like constantly worrying about being forced to go into the military, let alone while they're still in high school.

>some sort of compulsory community service, like helping with a soup kitchen or something
>Pic related, we avoid this
Not only are you fucking stupid, but you also hate freedom.
Kill yourself.

Riced

They should just learn Latin and math. Nothing else is needed until they actually understand language. The only way is to teach them latin, the language of Western Civilization.

Yes. But only for whites.

Faggot

I can't speak for other countries, but in Norway it's only one year.

>Should the US accelerate K12 education and implement a mandatory military/civil service for juniors/senior high schoolers before they turn 18
And infect the military with retards? Fuck no.

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Going to enlist now for god emperor Trump.
Wish me luck I might get a qt3.14 white conservative blonde hair blue eyed gf.

Teens don't give a fuck what an autist like yourself thinks they should do.

Whats it like? You guys just do a basic boot camp and easy stuff then go off to the regular world?

> fuck foreign languages
> fuck science
I think you are already halfway there

That's why you beat them

Do not enlist if you're over 21

If you're in college with a high 3.75+ GPA in STEM, do OCS

Not everyone is white trash like you. Beating them is only gonna make them rebel.

It's a stop gap measure considering the cancer that is modern """Education."""

You could just reform education as a whole, rather than tack extra shit on.

Boot camp with hellweek and hellmarch at the end of the recruitment month(or two depending on what branch you're in), then specialisation(tank, gunner, machine gunner, medic, howizer crew, boat etc) for a month.
After that it's all outdoor camping and simulated war with huge co operations with NATO like Arctic Winter(Americans have SHIT rations)
When you graduate you get some extra credit you can use towards college, half a year of benefits until you get a job etc and basically being in standby until you're 42 incase war breas out.

More or less. It's basically 2 months of bootcamp and 10 months of specialization in whatever you want to pursue. Here's an overview of some of the options you have while you're conscripted:

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>Let's put our children in dangerous situations, what could go wrong? I'm sure 250lb Tyrone will politely comply to a random frisk.

Fuck off

> 2 years
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How does Israel do it? Is it beneficial?

Fuck no. They should raise the enlistment age to 21.

You haven't met the youth these days, have you?

3 years men, 2 years women (it's changing)
Simce training for vombat roles is at least 8 months, less than 3 years does not make sense, and women in combat sign a waiver making them have 3 years under regular service status.
Anyone fit for OCS signs up for another year and 4 months at least.
Any non officer remaining past 3 years is called a Warrant Officer, and you can only do it if there's a relevant position for you.

Whatever you do, you remain in reserve service until you are no longer fit, with combat duty vets having at least yearly drills.

They make money because they have guaranteed profit from government backed loans. Meanwhile, because of said loans, the universities can jack prices up and care fuck all about quality of said education.

Shit needs to stop.

Cultural Marxism from the jews

This chick is Russian. Fuckloads of Russian sex workers came into South Korea after the curtain fell.

>Should the US accelerate K12 education and implement a mandatory military/civil service for juniors/senior high schoolers before they turn 18 to help remedy the NEET problems?
Maybe, this place is turning into a fucking freak show.

Agreed we need this

Fuck yes we should train out youth to be patriotic Train them in useful life skills and useful job skills.

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She's actually a qt traditional American

But I wouldn't doubt the Russian girls who come over to Korea for easy money

Highly unconstitutional to force people to serve the government.

Agreed. NEETs will live and die by their own fat pallid hands. Don't push them and other dumbasses into our military to fuck everything up. The military isn't a repair shop for losers, nor is it a social experiment. This is just another form of welfare, even if it does make some improve themselves. Plus, freedom.

If you want shit like this, move to a country that already has it.

A compulsary pre-military will weed out the fuckups for the main forces to be honest

You're not going to fix neet problems, because the thing is neets are one of the redpills members of society.

Think about it, you've got a hypocrital society that preeches tolerance, yet you're suppose to tolerate bullies. That you're suppose to walk away. Fight back against evil people is wrong while society tells you to go to work so your money can be stolen by the government to give to the trash of society such as criminals and the poor. That you're suppose to tolerate niggers, spics, sandniggers, yellows, and kikes all of which have shown they are disgusting creatures, but some how people are suppose to tolerate them. That putting a bullet in them is wrong. Letting evil continue to evil is ok.

That's disgusting.

I agree to an extent. I wouldn't make it compulsory for everyone, just those who express a wish to join once they are of age. Currently recruiters are supposed to help candidates prepare themselves to meet some basic standards before their ship date, so it could help the recruiters with their jobs.

If we were to make anything mandatory, I'd prefer it to be forcing schools to un-fund extracurricular sports, and re-focus that money on actual learning. I remember having to share text books that looked like a hobo used them for shelter, while the football team had all new uniforms.

I doubt the fuck ups are gonna join the real military.

Service is a privilege. With that said, a seperate program or programs that are mandatory after during or after high school (military-like program, local community work, internships with local businesses, helping WHO etc) would be extremely beneficial to society. It's important to allow a person to choose one of these mandatory options or else there will be a lot of dead weight.

>inb4 muh freedoms
Authoritarianism has its place.

>Authoritarianism has its place.
You really like sucking cock, don't you?

>>assuming you wouldn't be shipped off to die in some Jewish war
Kek

THIS

OK so I'm going to ask
In a captalist country how does a neet affect you at all mate?

nah, not all people are fit for service.

that's sort of the issue with our education system -- it assumes all people are equal (currently, all schooling is dedicated towards creating college grads rather than soldiers as you suggest).

what we need to do is have a tiered system that trains non-scholar tier idiots to get jobs, only reserving college prep classes for people who'll actually make it to college.

mandatory military service would just make our military into a joke, like those of Europe and Russia.

We need to fix public school education first and foremost. It's lousy and it sucks. Get rid of teachers unions ASAP and have some real competition. End mandatory truancy policies that force kids to be there that don't want to be there and schools will be decent again. Kids will learn way more by the age of 15 than ever.

Why not have 2 years mandatory border patrol/coast guard training and duties at 16-18? Have drivers ed instituted in it as well. If you guys don't like the mandatory thing, make it every year you are active in the border patrol/coast guard, you get government paid tuition for the same amount of years.

I like this idea

Only if women get sent to finishing school.

Everything after 6th grade is pretty much useless. They need basic math to do basic accounting and thats it. 7th-10th grade should teach that (tax, finance, banking, insurances, how to make resumes and apply for babby first wagecuck job, lifeskills)
11-12th grade should be an apprenticeship program with the military, NASA, hospitals, construction, police, public security, local businesses, agriculture, ya name it

Hmmm