Why is he so opposed to Trump's $1 trillion infrastructure target?
Of all the things government spends money on, infrastructure is the most essential. It's not 'conservative' to let things crumble.
I recall from Webster Tarpley that the American Society of Civil Engineers recommend a $3 trillion program of infrastructure renewal; obviously they're a vested interest, but it suggests Trump's figure is not outlandish.
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Ideology vs practicality
He is firmly in the ideological camp.
this shapiro guy is an intellectual babby
some infrastructure spending will help the economy, it worked in the 30's
Your argument is that it would 80 years ago? Times have changed m8
>Why is (((he))) so opposed to Trump's $1 trillion infrastructure target?
>obviously they're a vested interest
So they're completely unreliable. Why even quote them?
It's like how all these "scientists" want us to buy into global warming.
It's not the government's job to create jobs
He thinks the government sucks at its job, and the less they do the better off everyone is.
>asking why a kike is against the people's interests
Go back to r/the_donald
But it is the govt's job to maintain fucking roads
If you have a police force of some size in a city with growing population, is it not the governments job to create more police jobs at some point to meet the needs of the higher city population?
Ben has an emotional opposition to Trump. He's become the thing that he claims to hate.
I think he's ideologically opposed to it based on grounds of limited government spending.
Tbh I actually like his podcast but this is something I don't agree with him on as well.
Who wants to be he pussy crying about "muh budget" when we're talking about a project with the size and scope of the transcontinental railroad or Eisenhower building the interstate system.
This needs to happen and everyone will objectively benefit.
IM ALSO TIRED OF SITTING IN SO MUCH GODDAMNED TRAFFIC REEEEEEEE
If the infrastructure is crumbling, the demand is there. Or it would be if that was something handled by the free market.
Libertarians will never accept it, but road building and general infrastructure work are things best handled by the government.
Ben has been surprisingly wrong with about everything he's said the last 6 months.
>surprisingly
Shapiro is a Jewish SJW crybaby. There's absolutely nothing "surprising" about him being wrong all the time.
He's a "real" conservative.
In America that means small government and free markets.
Infrastructure bills are pretty much the opposite of that.
That's what makes this hilarious.
>FUCK DRUMPF!!!!!!!!
>Yeah, it's fucked up, he's going full FDR on us
>HUH!? WHO DAT RIGHT WING NAZI MOTHERFUCKER!?
This is a bit like when Reagan introduced tough gun control laws.
Some people said;
>You know, I don't think everyone needs machine guns
But true conservatives who adhere to the letter of the law were pissed off.
Rightfully so? I don't know.
Pure ideology. Shapiro might turn out to be right, a lot can got wrong in such a huge project, but his response is instinctive rather than intelligent.
Ben sees Trump as someone who would bully him in Highschool
He automatically hates everything about him
He's too much of an ideologue.
Many conservatives hate FDR and the New Deal, precisely because it's a large government spending program.
these types of jobs almost always go to illegal immigrants and minority
Most whites don't do this type of labor....I have never met a white person that does this type of work.......does any other white person know one of these workers?
They should call these "taco-ready" jobs
>Basically, the alt-right is a group of thinkers who believe that Western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity—which is racist, obviously. It’s people who believe that if Western civilization were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Western civilization. As you may notice, this has nothing to do with the Constitution. It has nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence.
Just in this little bit from a recent interview I can pull out several major errors and/or lies.
He says it is obviously racist to believe western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity. First, I'm not sure that is obviously racist. Secondly, Europeans created western civilization, currently maintain it, and ARE it. It's like saying you could separate Romans from Roman civilization.
He also seems to think the importation of other races isn't having a deleterious effect on western civilization when it is, empirically so in fact. He's just straight up lying and virtue signalling at this point.
He goes on to conflate the American Constitution with western civilization which is profoundly idiotic and is clear sophistry. Western civilization long predates the American Constitution. Oh, and the Declaration of Independence is an openly racist document as it refers to the natural quality of British men and calls the native American tribes savages.
WHY DOES ANYONE HERE LIKE THIS POS?
Because he'd prefer Trump use that money for roads and buildings in the middle east so when Israel invades they already have infastructure
To be honest familia, is the infrastructure really crumbling so much that we need to goverment to spend 1 trillion dollars on repairs? Personally I never see too many shit roads, but if it does need repairs, would it be simplier to have the state pay for it?
Do the same as we did and conect each state capital with a high speed train.
It worked very well for us.
Those roads are wholly owned by the govt and thus must be maintained by the govt. The reason the "free market"isn't fucking fixing muh roads is because they are not allowed too. Instead the govt is taking 2 trillion dollars of our money for entitlement programs
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According to him it didn't work well during the 1930s in America under FDR.
Of course not rightfully so
Stay thinking of Australia. No conservative is upset at the renewal of public resources that are required monopolies
Im not sure what (((Shapiro's))) stance is, but my biggest concern is that Trump is going to auction off the job to private businesses. Typically their method of funding is toll roads. I want the infrastructure to be rebuilt, god knows its long over due, but I dont want a shit ton of toll roads propped up in order to continue maintaining those roads, we already pay taxes for that shit.
With that said, I don't know exactly how Trump plans on funding it, but I see it as a higher priority than many other things so cutting spending in other departments is an acceptable option, for me.
>SJW
wat
Except most of our country is empty.
Spending a trillion dollars on infrastructure is a bad idea that money can go to israel
FDR hated niggers though (redlining).
Yes.
Sounds like you don't know too many white people.
>What is Chinese construction boom for 100, Alex.
That got me thinking, wouldn't privately owned roads have toll booths ?
I know plenty of whites would kill to work road crew. Get out of the coastal elites, senpai.
>road building and general infrastructure work are things best handled by the government
Come to michigan and see the potholes
Dub dub caps in my ID
KEK
Anyone who can unironically use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to describe someone is, in fact, a SJW.
make sure florida gets some road and pipe money. they have the shittiest roads and water of all time
The federal government has lower borrowing costs than the states so it's cheaper for the feds to do it.
No. He sees it as the shell game it is. Trumps program gives tax breaks to infrastructure projects that have already been green lighted, while providing guarantees for the loans but with no actual infrastructure in the plan.
Additionally, by setting up a infrastructure bank with repatriated overseas taxes, he is giving a huge jubilee to the richest companies, and no money is actually going into the bank.
If he were a real deal maker, he would simply wait for foreign tax collectors to apply the EU law, and then the cheapest way for the companies to go would be to pay the US tax.
But he's not a deal maker. He's a faker and a con man and he sucks at business....
Ben Shapiro is the definition of cuckservative.
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Because he a radical.
Communist don't admit what a failure communism really is, even when presented with empiric evidence, they have blind faith in the doctrine.
(((Ben))) has blind faith in the doctrine of free market, he doesn't care that it's gutting industrial jobs in the USA, the faith in the doctrine most be uphold!
Just like many ((((others))) he lives in a bubble world, far away from the concerns and dificulties of the average working american.
But that doesn't work as an argument because Michigan does not deal with its potholes and its government would be universally loved if it did. The worst potholes for a long time were in Southfield, which flatly refused to recognize that they existed.
>IN THE CURRENT YEAR
Having a central planner trillions on infrastructure is communism you fucking retard.
Most major cities are close together though. All we would need is high speed rail on the east coast andon the west coast
Ben hates all public spending, and is a total globalist trap. He is completely for the destruction of our industries in america in a race to the bottom. Also as others have said, shills for Israel non-stop. Uses any criticism as being anti-jew.
(((Cuckservatives))) like him get triggered when money is ever spent on the people living in the nation and not some shitty foreign country like MUH ISRAEL.
Literally "stop reparing the roads MUH LIBERTARIANISM REEEE"
Sure why not? I assume in a totally voluntarily society roads would be built private companies via subscription models, business agreements , HOA's etc but I am just spit balling.
>Times have changed
>people working now vs the 30s is the same because work is work
Please, ignore this kike. He's a dishonest piece of filth.
en.wikipedia.org
The American School, also known as the "National System", represents three different yet related constructs in politics, policy and philosophy. It was the American policy from the 1860s to the 1970s, waxing and waning in actual degrees and details of implementation. Historian Michael Lind describes it as a coherent applied economic philosophy with logical and conceptual relationships with other economic ideas.[1]
It is the macroeconomic philosophy that dominated United States national policies from the time of the American Civil War until the mid-twentieth century.[2][3][4][5][6][7] Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:
protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.[8][9][10][11]
It is a capitalist economic school based on the Hamiltonian economic program.[12] The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.
The American School's key elements were promoted by John Q. Adams and his National Republican Party, Henry Clay and the Whig Party, and Abraham Lincoln through the early Republican Party which embraced, implemented, and maintained this economic system.[13]
During its American System period the United States grew into the largest economy in the world with the highest standard of living, surpassing the British Empire by the 1880s.[14]
If we can spend $5 trillion to bail out wall street after they fucked us over we can spend $1 trillion to fix our fucking roads. I've been to third world countries with better roads than my state, it's really sad!
Just flip it. If African colonization of the United States and Europe won't cause the downfall of western civilization, then there's no cause for concern with us colonizing Africa.
I clearly stated that he was an AMERICAN conservative, and that for them that means small government and free markets and lots of burgers.
Derp.
Also, he's a jew. Take everything he says with a grain of salt.
Of course they would. The tolls would be ridiculously high too becauss the only other option would be to go ten kilometres out of your way using a road that rips you off slightly less.
Because the government is inherently wasteful. We supposedly spent 800 billion on infrastructure a few years ago. Then once everyone forgets about that we say it's an emergency and need double that. Even the kikes are asleep at the wheel on this.
>Believing kikes aren't in
>it worked in the 30's
It didn't. It slowed progress and lengthened the depression, as well as creating another depression, by diverting needed resources elsewhere.
This We were (little f) fascist since our inception.
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To be fair, the U.S. built themselves up into a great nation following these principles for a long ass time.
There are lots of things going on here, and times have changed. Ben believes returning to your fundamental roots, COMPLETELY, will maybe help.
The Jew seems to be only able to reason in the form of the polemic.
He's just mad that the money isn't being donated to Israel.
The biggest point of infrastructure spending is to create a class of hard republican voters
Dems have been creating voter bases for decades with immigration, welfare, government jobs, etc
Time to fight back
>jew
>spending money
That's not really true, the government built a lot of infrastructure, hell it pretty much conquered 3/4 of our country by force and gave it to citizens and the railroad for free.
Let's not forget the space program, the internet, medical research, interstate highways, airports, and so forth.
He's not American, he's a Jew.
>(((Ben))) has blind faith in the doctrine of free market, he doesn't care that it's gutting industrial jobs in the USA,
The jobs in America are lost due to advances in technology, how do you expect those jobs to come back? You cannot correct it without destroying the standard of living.
It wouldn't have to.
>build new destination thing
>toss some shekels to keep a nice road leading to it
The idea is that incompetence is tolerated in government because it's a welfare program at its core.
>It's not 'conservative' to let things crumble.
Its also not conservative to spend money you dont have, reguardless of its use.
In fact, Trump very well may be on track to increase the deficit by more than Obama at this rate
debt. his concern is valid
The idea is you use government money to invest in the capital intensive programs that the private sector can't really afford.
>Built up
I was going pretty far back. Anything after Wilson, for sure, is a completely different kettle of fish.
I don't see a problem with infrastructure. We're having that argument right now in Australia - Our conservatives are deathly afraid of unbalancing the budget, despite recession looming, they don't want to lower interest rates because Australians are in love with home loans and credit cards, so the easiest option is to build some (very, very much needed and actually economically useful) infrastructure, PARTICULARLY public transport/highways to the outer suburbs and internet upgrades.
I completely agree with infrastructure spending and thinking it's good for a country - But I also grant the ideological obsessives on the U.S. right their due in that for certain times and places the free market, low regulatory, system is good at exploding growth.
Oh I get it. My point is with 1 pen swipe, Trump will increase the national deficit by the same amount that took Obama 18 months to spend.
Thats not even mentioning the child wellness program cost, reducing the corporate tax rate, etc. Trump very well may beat Obamas 4 year record in a single year
Ben is still better that faggot Milo
Toll roads are much better. Keeps the poor niggers out and traffic flows smoothly.
Yes that is a concern, hopefully growth is enough to mitigate, but no guarantees. We definitely can't afford a war with Iran, I hope he avoids that even though he's surrounding himself with Iran haters.
Which is why Trump was never seen as a true conservative.
The hope is that he increases the deficit meaningfully. Bailouts, as Japan and Europe know, are very dubious uses of taking on government debt.
If he uses the trillion dollars to put Americans to work and building useful and needed infrastructure that can help generate income later down the road, that's one thing. If it's bailouts of companies that will fail without bailouts - it's a problem.
He seemed smart until Michelle Fields, that was the first crack
War is actually fairly cheap in the grand scheme of things. For example 10 years of a 2 front war in Iraq and Afghanistan cost the US less money than 11 months of Social Security payments
The big fear is that if debt keeps increasing, what little IS left after social programs wont even be enough to cover the interest on debt... You dont want to be Greece do you? Because that is how you become Greece
No it isn't. The government has this thing called contracting you fuckwit. Federal planning != communism.
Otherwise the monarchies and despotism of old were all communism you politically illiterate retard.
It would be communism if the government tried to actually create a construction company or nationalize one under the federal government, I.e. putting the means of production (in this case, construction) in the hands of the state, which is authoritarian socialism.
Just because the government has a monopoly on the planning phase does not mean the government are the ones actually doing the building, they operate through hired private businesses. Otherwise we'd have shit like toll roads which is a fucking inconvenient idiotic idea to have. You can shout 'but muh freedom! Muh free market!' all you want but the free market is not a catch all phrase for what is really prudent or better for the populace at large.
Or assist them in programs they may not be able to logisitcally/politically implement.
For us it's transport and roads. We have customers who want houses and shops. We have builders who want to build them and businesses who want to move into them. We have no way of connecting the town to the city without going through a mine field of red tape. That's where a useful government spending initiative can take place. Building something that others can't, so that people can do businesses better.
he's right its not conservative. Trudeau did the same with less budget of course and it ended up costing more and bringing nothing
that said he's kind of annoying. hardcore ideologue
There is no Germany above you, unlike Greece.
Which could be comforting or terrifying, depending on how you look at it.
He believes its bad to be a pragmatist, or something about pragmatists not existing. Kinda weird.
The government is inefficient on allocating money, hiring the best contractors, etc. Leave more money to people, allow them to hire out and maintain it.
That is a good point.
1 Trillion dollars is equivalent to $2,857 per man, woman, and child, living in the US... What gets the economy going quicker? Building roads, dams, power plants, etc. Or every single person blowing 2800 dollars in a weekend?
>The government has this thing called contracting you fuckwit.
THEY'RE USING OUR TAX DOLLARS TO DO IT YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER
God fucking damn someone needs to fucking beat you up with belt for being this stupid.
The free market could easily build better infrastructure than anything Congress could think of.
Little from column A, little from column B.
We did something kind of retarded after the GFC that worked well. Instead of assisting the banks, we divided up that payment and just handed it out to every Australian above voting age.
They promptly went out and blew it on TV's, house extensions, new rims, getting the plumbing done, etc etc.
Worked better than the bailout + austerity that Europe undertook.
How will they guarantee the money will go to actually fixing shit? My county's past 3 ballots had money for fixing the roads here and each time it passed and they didn't fix shit.