/leftypol/ pls read muh thread senpais

By the time automation becomes a thing transhumanism will also be a thing, eliminating questions about work all together. Fully Automated Luxury Communism if ever is possible will only happen for a week before we upload our consciousness into a computer. If the proletariat don't rise up the 1% will put chemicals in the water supply that sedate our emotions and make us feel as if we live in FALC anyway (think The Matrix). In the mean time reactionary-socialism should be the goal to cement the white race as a global aristocracy and 'get the best seat in the house' so to speak.

You seem to be under the illusion that people that work will simply be willing to give income away to people that don't, and that we'll live in a utopia where everything is wonderful.

The reality is this. Something scarier will happen. Females will stop giving birth. Males will undergo a range of horrors including sexual deviation and senseless acts of aggression, or suicide. Men and women alike will withdraw from others only to emerge from their domiciles to eat and drink, if it is at all necessary to leave the home. The social fabric of our society will lay in ruin.

Research behavior sink, or study Japanese culture very closely. Japan is a densely populated country that loves automation and lives largely in isolation from other countries. You'll see these patterns emerging already. It's depressing.

>Fully Automated Communism

god help us.

>By the time automation becomes a thing transhumanism will also be a thing
Automation already is a thing. We produce enough food, clothes, and shelter to meet all our basic needs and then much much more. Artificial scarcity is what's leaving people in want. We literally destroy food because the drop in prices would cause the food market to collapse otherwise. We have 5 homes for every homeless person in the US. FALC is very possible, but the ruling class doesn't want to surrender their privileged positions.

>In the mean time reactionary-socialism should be the goal to cement the white race as a global aristocracy and 'get the best seat in the house' so to speak.
Socialism is the democratization of production. Democratically run workplaces and a democratically run economy. It's also a global system just like capitalism. That's why Marx said that the revolutionary force that is capitalism must develop every corner of the wealth before communism would be possible. That means asians, spics, blacks, and everyone else will get it too. If you don't like minorities then move somewhere that's all white. Despite the memes there are parts of the world you'll rarely, if ever, see a non-white. Or you could, you know, talk to them and realize they're normal people dealing with this shitty system the best way they know how the same as us.

-Japan's pros outweigh its cons
-If you read the available information on Japans demographical challenges the one thing that appears each time is about how Japan 'ignored' it's demographics issue until it was too late.
-I am discussing the probability of automation occuring concurrently with virtual reality, genetic engineering so questions about alienation, work are answered: make a drug that makes people happy all the time or eliminates whatever bad feeling they are having

The sociologist is right. The reason I fought so hard for the right is because I can see the path we're headed down based on human nature and American laziness. Should we continue down the socialist path we will destroy our own country or worse, live as a vassal to a strong nation. America is too great and too beautiful to die with a whimper. This great majestic thing that we call America has its flaws but the Way we created has done so much good for the world that the possibility of our end being anything but the greatest blaze of glory second only to the Creation is lunacy and borderline blasphemous.

>happy pills and stimulants should replace good living.

t. never actually interacted with nonwhites

I'm having a hard time remembering a nation that ended in a blaze of glory, isn't the reality just empires breaking down in a 10-20 year period rapidly?

-I meant automation as automation of everything, that is what I assumed leftypols are talking about anyway
-The ruling class can soon make drugs that make people feel like they live in FALC eliminating the possibility of a proletariat revolution or any need for violence. Just pop it in the water supply.
-Also VR will be a deepstate plot to domesticate the masses. But its good because it will make people feel like they are in FALC.

>Enjoy becoming the borg, lead by a jewish computer connected to the intergalactic stock exchange

There is literally no scientific basis for any of that shit. It shall remain in the realm of fantasy, like sentient golems.

>Socialism is the democratization of production. Democratically run workplaces and a democratically run economy. It's also a global system just like capitalism.
Do you mean socialism is the same as Communism? I thought socialism was wealth redistribution, money fo dem programs, taxes and so on.

Two best friends are a Mexican and a Korean. Went to school with and had some black friends. Was the only white guy working at my local McDonald's while I was working on my degree. Actually grew up in Alabama so believe me that I interact with non-whites on a daily basis.

I'm not saying it's good I am saying it is as probable as full automation and AI. Meaning that they will occur concurrently.

This was meant as a reply to this

Socialism is an economic system based around democratic economic planning and democratically run workplaces. Communism is a classless stateless societal state that itself operate under a socialist gift-economy. Socialism without communism is usually discussed as using labor-vouchers or other systems rather than taking the gift form. Most socialists are totally opposed to markets, but mutualists and some other minor tendencies thing markets can still exist(or want them to exist) under a post-scarcity economic order.

>I thought socialism was wealth redistribution, money fo dem programs, taxes and so on.
No, that's still capitalism. Social reforms like that are something commonly supported under Keynesian models to limit the suffering caused by capitalism. That's the kind of shit European social democrats generally propose. Those same Social Democrats supported the Freikorps in killing communists. Pic related.

FALC is mostly a meme. Full automation of everything is still science fiction sadly. I hope the drugs thing doesn't happen, but I guess we are already heading that way with all the drugs they try to sell us.

Actually looking forward to fullvr if it happens. Building virtual worlds has been a dream of mine since I was a kid. Actually in the process of prototyping ideas for a world building library I want to make in c++. More like dwarffortress rather than fullvr, but it's a starting point. Working out the best algorithms and general design approach to manage realistically scaled ancient cities like Athens. Want to make persistent NPCs with autonomous(really more semi-autonomous since that's more realistic to implement) ai. Aiming very high, but I have realistic short term goals. Designing the diseases and the economics are really exciting to think about. Might maybe have a cool early production ancient civ roguelike/sim in a few years if I don't die.

>Fully Automated Luxury Communism


S M A S H T H E U R B A N I T E

>upload our consciousness into a computer
>think the matrix
>posts anime

NEETS and urbanite degenerates need to brought out before a tribunal, sentenced to death, and shot in front of their neighbors to make an example that our society will not tolerate this level of faggotry.

Why? There aren't enough jobs for everyone and I don't see what's wrong with degeneracy. You'd probably have been strung up for one thing or another only a couple hundred years ago. Why not make an interesting post that contributes to the thread and bring up the generally quality of discussion?

>like whatever man y'know the Christians would've killed you a couple years ago for like something idk, why should I be killed?

Because you're a mouth breathing retard who unironically believes that modernity and the urbanization of our people has brought anything but our own self destruction and loss of self. You're a post modernist moron who never had the bals to look past what he/she/xir thinks the world ought to be and simply assumes, due to the degeneracy around them, that automation is not just necessary, but consequential to the future of human existence. Misery becomes normal. The ugly becomes normal. Placing our consciousness into a science experiment of which we know little about is the ultimate form of reckless human pride which, if it gets too awful, objectively needs to be bled out and eliminated. Like I said before

SMASH
THE
URBANITES

I never said that. My point was that our standards of decency are constantly evolving. Why make things up about me? Do you really want Sup Forums to be a non-stop shitposting board forever? That gets old. I don't even remember Sup Forums having this much shitposting. By having actual discussions we can challenge others and be challenged ourselves so we can grow into better informed individuals with more rounded understanding of the political landscape. If nothing else I think it would be more fun this. At least that's how I feel.

>That gets old.

No it doesn't faggot. YOU get old. Not "us".Urbanfags have the attention spans of guppies because they surround themselveswith distractions. Communists are lazy morons believing that Hegelian Dialectic describes THEM in specific, and no others, that modernity was the natural progression and that the antithesis was never going to be anti-modernity. Transhumanists are just morons, whereas communists are dangerous.

Okay user. I can't stop you from shitposting. I can only hope you'll eventually change your mind or eventually grow up. Have fun.

transhumanism is a pipe dream

corporations taking control of labor is game over for any society

Spuderman.

>eventually grow up
>he thinks Malthus' Theory on Population Growth can be solved with full automation


Believe me I'm fully grown up and I know full well what communism and transhumanism/ "post scarcity" actually means beyond what you can imagine as someone who has yet to comprehend their own emotions.

This

Yo, I just wanted to drop in to say, keep the discussion going. This is why I come to Sup Forums. These niggas are making predictions that bring chills all throughout my nervous system. Meaning this shit is definitely going to go down.

Based fire.

It's cool user. You don't have to prove anything.

Worse redpill attempt ever

>It's cool user. You don't have to prove anything.

Cool. So its no problem then, that if a transhumanist dictator was set up in the future, that I would probably not think twice about murdering him or his supporters. Good. Its goog to know you understand this.

Jesus fuck you weebs are weird.

Dude, I'm not a transhumanist and just FYI the theory Malthus put forward has been shown to not really be true. Population growth isn't going to be a big concern. Population growth drops often below replacement in educated nations with easy access to contraceptives. Germany and Japan are the future. The US would already be around their growth without immigration. As the rest of the world develops their population growth will also decline. It's odd because I didn't think people actually still believed in this.

>Population growth drops often below replacement in educated nations with easy access to contraceptives
>Germany


MMMMHHHH pleae just fucking kill yourself. You know there are certain groups of people in the world that as it so happens don't touch birth control because it makes people miserable and Malthus has absolutely not been proven un true you 100% cuck.

>It's odd because I didn't think people actually still believed in this.

That's because you have no concept of what its like to not be you. You're an egoist without even knowing it. Malthus is correct when you apply the fact that IQ and race exists. Also that people don't want to be miserable automatons for the rest of their existence unlike you NEETs. You see, you live in what is known as a "circle jerk environment" where you hear only one opinion all day.

>Japan are the future

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm sorry, but that is just pure bullshit on sooo many levels. I don't even have the time to begin, because I literally used to be you.

I'm not into Nazi race science. This drop in population growth has been the case for every developed nation with easy access with contraceptives. Do you have evidence where the opposite is the case?

I'd really like to see a source that state otherwise. I'd rather not live in ignorance if you can somehow prove Malthus theory to still be true.

>prove Malthus theory to still be true.

Everyone tries to disprove Malthus, and everyone tries to prove he is right. He's still a debate even today, the fact that you take such a partisan stance on the matter is just proof you haven't looked into it.

>I'm not into Nazi race science

Robert Putnam was not a Nazi either, but the Putnam study still proves that multiculturalism is a failed ideology in any place its ever ben practiced. Read that, then read the Bell Curve, and a Culture of Critique if you want to understand why Evolutionary Psychologists hate Steven J Gould so much.

>every developed nation with easy access with contraceptives

Its like you have no concept of time or people. Yes, I'm sure Abdul loves the ideas of contraceptive so much, invite him into your country and he'll become westernized! There's no chance that he is psychologically incompatible, or consciously hates that culture. It doesn't work, ever. Contraceptives do nothing but make woman more irrational, place more incentives on the state replacing the family, and drops the birth rate of the native secular population which causes them to be slowly replaced by the religious non-secular population. Malthus is still correct in that population growth is still exponential a (to a saturation point) but food production is geometric with technological achievements, Its just doesn't;t take into account religion or race.

>everyone perma-hooked on oculus VR sponsored by facebook, where they live in waifu paradise
>only a few aristocrats exist outside of the matrix, controlling the global herd and exploiting their addiction to VR paradise

This is the future. Embrace your new God, Mark Zuckerberg. CEO of the human race.

>mawk zuckerboyg

I didn't like his movie either.

The reality is population growth has dropped while food supplies continue to increase which is in direct contradiction to his theory. Haven't seen people talk about population growth as a looming problem in a long time so that's why it's odd to me. Even the UN doesn't agree with his theory. Only the poorly educated and those without access to contraceptives deal with this problem. In regards to religion there are Muslim and Christian nations with both high and low growth just from a quick look at the data. It all lines up with development and education more than anything else. Even the race science angle doesn't make sense as the developing world has seen decline in growth though it is still quite high.

I will read through them this weekend, but really, there is no actual growth data I've seen to prove these arguments true. I hope you will try approaching this in a materialist manner and challenge your own ideas on this. Need to sleep as it's past 4am.

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