Everyone outside of this website has figured that out already
Jace Sanders
Hello yes where is the proofs
Christian Gray
Yeah, is this news to anyone but Sup Forums?
Kayden Ramirez
Proof or GTFO
Zachary James
>hillary voters were cucked by cucks lmao how more cucked can you get
Matthew Martin
"It's not bad when we do it!!!" als what is wrong with pulling people to favor trump? that isn't rigging a fucking election ctr.
Daniel Morales
$.02 have been deposited to your account
Kevin James
go find it. It's what Sup Forums does innit
Jayden Phillips
>you want a conspiracy >posts whats all over mainstream media
Please leave. Propaganda is legal in the USA, obviously we hate russia again so its going to be anti-russian. Use youre fucking brain.
John Wilson
So, Putin threw a sophistacated propoganda machine behind a favourable candidate and he won.Surprising everyone. And there's no problem?
Jason Campbell
Damn it feels weird to be the new jew of the world pulling all the strings.
Aaron Martin
...
Jordan Phillips
I'm neither pro or for anything. I'm just saying. This is amiss.
Julian Murphy
>this spacing
John Brooks
Saudi money... Hillary...... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ Makes me think.....................................
Hunter Russell
I'm not saying that. I'm saying there was a level of influence that is so far undocumented. That is all.
Lucas Gutierrez
Like i said its a waste of time, if the media cares about it, it is a waste of time because its the narrative they want to people to believe.
Brandon Gray
Fuck off normie.
Xavier Martin
REALLY makes you think.
Nolan Flores
>terrorism is losing its effect as a scare tactic, better return to the Cold-War-era soviet boogeyman
How can anyone who objectively looks at the resources of Russia, whether military spending or GDP, honestly believe that Russia is the omnipresent boogeyman the (((establishment))) is leading us to believe.
The entire Russian military spends less money than all of our intelligence agencies. The DoD just identified 120b in annual waste. That means our military wastes four times as much as the entire Russian military spends.
Jaxon Sanchez
obviously the 1st amendment is wrong here.
time to repeal
Logan Hill
considering the media throughly a giant colborative world wide campaign in favor of hillary that incited violence and divided our country i'd say there's no problem at all. hillary got the backing of hundreds of rich jews in fine with trump being backed by putin desu.
Isaiah Mitchell
I'm not saying they are. I'm saying they used a sophisticated propoganda method and active measures that outflanked the American propoganda system and got a candidate elected that was favourable to the Kremlin
Jack Lee
>no more time right now - i gotta get cleaned up and out the door
poor quality
Brody Clark
No problem at all.
Fuck leftists.
James Martin
i find ironic hillary picked trump to run for the republican party
Ayden Powell
No.
Podestas emails contained substance which catalyzed their dissemination by the public. All you did was give us a few names and a shitty "plot".
Also the dems wanted to agitate the Russians under the guise of muh refugees and muh gay oppression. Let them bomb the middle east, we really don't give a fuck and neither do the people who voted for Trump. Shills plz go
Isaac Brown
Then that's fine. I just want people to be aware what's happening/happened.
Sebastian Wright
>Wikileaks has been co-opted by the Kremlin and they hacked and posted the DNC and Podesta emails. >implying this is a fucking problem
Wikileaks obviously is a nonfederal hell not even an exclusively US outlet in its mission
If the DNC and HROD wanted to shit things up and the people they wanted thermonuclear war with blow the lid on their shenanigans that is tough shit for them m8
Jaxson Garcia
all talk, no proofs
Julian Lewis
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Carter Turner
Correct. And Putinbots amplified it.
Yeah, it works both ways - no doubt.
Kevin Morgan
It's utterly laughable that you believe the Russians are even playing the same game as the West. The difference in sophistication and funding is gigantic. The budget of the NSA alone is more than that of the entire Russian Navy.
Christopher Diaz
go look
Ian Mitchell
Assuming all you said is true, so fucking what?
We got our God emperor, and relations between the USA and the Ruskies SHOULD be an umbreakable bond.
They could have literally shot people in the face to make it happen and it still wouldn't be any skin off my dick.
On our own we are weaker, like a single branch of a tree we can snap very easily, but when the USA and Russia bundle ourselves together we form one gigantic faggot.
Julian Bennett
I looked. The proofs were missing.
Henry Miller
strategy can outflank resources. This is what I'm saying. I don't dispute the funding gap
Blake Sanchez
Nobody else has drawn that conclusion. To the extent that Russia tried to influence the election, their motivation was to highlight the hypocrisy of American criticism of Russian democracy.
Bentley Howard
It really does make you think, doesn't it? Looks like Drumpfkins were being played all along. Say it with me: MADAME PRESIDENT. #NotMyPresident #ItsHerTurn
Matthew Roberts
No, I sort of agree. The geo-political implications are to be discussed. I have no problem with the countries with the biggest nuclear arsenals being friendly. I'm just saying
Brandon Thompson
No. I think it was to destabalise the establishment and rupture the political process. Which I don't necessarilly mind. I just want people to be aware of the strategy
Jason Price
There's simply no evidence for your claims. It's just more fear mongering bullshit from the establishment. It's a wonderful thing that Hillary lost, otherwise we would be spending the next 4 years chasing this new fabricated Russian boogeyman.
>Russia opposes Saudi efforts to overthrow Assad >Saudis, Turks, and Americans fund ISIS, AQI, et al to destabilize Syria >Hillary, the recipient of tens of millions in Saudi funding, pushes for war with Russia instead of ISIS
hmm, really makes my neurons fire
Austin Davis
Again the key word is SUBSTANCE.
So what if they propagated it, did you read the fucking emails. They exposed a liar. The ruskies played spy games doesn't make the evidence any less credible.
Nathaniel Allen
Proofs, pls
Eli Wilson
There is evidence. It's not fearmongering. I'm actually glad there's been a shake up. I just want people to be aware of the method of this kind of propoganda is all
Lincoln Bell
Not at all, ya big looser. Look at you. Look at all your buzzwords and slogans and " part lingo".
Yeah! Cool! Revolution, baby!
Urgh, you people are so simple and sad.
Jayden Baker
No, I agree. I'm not saying anything but what I said. It's the method of propoganda I want to highlight.
Aiden Sanders
what "people". How do you think you know who I am for one second?
Lucas Green
go find it.
Austin Campbell
It's absolutely fear mongering. It's just like the terrorism bullshit. Is it there, yes. Is it a realistic threat, no.
If there is evidence, then post it. Shit like this always gets blown out of proportion by the establishment to draw attention away from their shady bullshit and to increase the power of the government.
If there is a legitimate threat to our cyber security, then perhaps someone should shoot an email to GCHQ and NSA to throw a few billion at protecting out networks instead of constantly undermining them.
Jace Williams
WHERE IS IT?! WHERE IS MY PROOFS?!
Jordan Lopez
Not an argument. I'd love to see evidence of a vast Russian conspiracy that effectively decided the presidential election.
Carson Nguyen
wtf I love Russia now
Jaxon Barnes
Russia controls Trump, the alt-right, and Sup Forums. The proof for this is in the uploaded image.
Camden Sanchez
RUSSIA DID IT RUSSIA DID IT RUSSIA DID IT
The hysteria is ridiculous
Ryder Stewart
I'm pretty sure anyone with half a brain knows the Russians were trying to influence the election for Trump
I don't think that somehow makes Hillary any better. The rich Arab states were trying to influence the election for her, and she has a proven record of taking tens of millions for the foundation and her own family (Qatar gave Bill Clinton $1 million on his birthday to get an hour meeting with him while Killary was SoS) in exchange for favours for foreign governments and power brokers.
Frankly, I don't trust Russia, but their interests don't necessarily clash with ours. Whenever somebody I know rants and raves about Russian aggression and subversion, I just ask them the following
Would you be willing to die for Ukraine?
Would you be willing to die for the tiny Baltic states?
Would you be willing to die for the Caucasus?
I have never had anyone answer me "yes" to those questions. And those are really the only countries in danger from Russia.
Adam Rivera
It's not fearmongering if it's true. Evidence is complex and would take a lot of time. It has to do with fake troll armies creating echochambers to support narratives that suck people into filter bubbles. It's sophistacated. I'd prefer a few people go go look and find themselves. That's the only way people are convinced.
Yes, the protective measures of American cyber security have been outflanked recently by a sophistacated method.
Bentley Bell
I get what you're saying. Listen we live in a cyber world now. The only safe way of communicating without possibility of compromised into is face to face. If politicians can't get with the times then that is their issue. I'm not advocating cyber warfare and illicit cyber activities but if you are in the realm of politics (nationwide at that) Then you need to hold yourself to a higher security standard
Td;lr don't say dumb shit online if you don't want it publicized especially if you are high profile
Michael Perry
you are welcome
Nathan Reed
twitter.com/JohnnyFr8trane Go look at that account, see what it reposts, and keep clicking. That's an autobot
Ayden Allen
You think Bannon and CO are RUssian shills? Not convinced
Nicholas Wilson
>fake troll armies creating echochambers to support narratives that such people into filter bubbles
Elijah Allen
go look
Isaiah White
Thank you based Russian bro.
My Bank of America account number is 005562861795, make sure to put me on the list of people not to hack.
Jeremiah Hill
Thank you Canada. I'm sort of in agreement. I just want people to be aware of the method of propoganda.
Joseph Smith
>we have evidence but it's too complex to post now. Do your research guys....
What the fuck is wrong with you? Have you ingested too much lead paint as a child?
Juan Bennett
>Democucks still pushing the "EEEEBIL ROOOOSKIES!" narrative You guys are hilarious.
Asher Bell
how do you mean?
Alexander Evans
I'm not a Democrat. I'm not anything
Parker Fisher
> Putin single-handedly elected Trump The absolute madman, is there anything he _can't_ do?
Maybe you should put an 'opposition journalist' on Mars, seems like only Putin is superhuman enough to colonize Mars for us.
Caleb Sanders
Nah I'm a Brit
David Richardson
RUSSIANS!! RUSSIANS!! RUSSIANS!! RUSSIANS!!
Jordan Barnes
>There is evidence Post it.
I'm genuinely curious.
Like it would be exciting to me if the Russians prevented WW3 by meming the us into meming them
Ayden Wright
I dont know who that is
Gabriel Morgan
>Wikileaks has been co-opted by the Kremlin and they hacked and posted the DNC and Podesta emails.
James Clapper seems to disagree. You must have some pretty serious proofs that he isn't privy to I assume.
Ayden Nelson
You're a leftist most likely. Even if the Russians somehow had a hand in it, we should be thanking them we aren't living under 4 more years of a leftist nightmare.
Trumps not perfect. But he's a step towards the right direction.
Caleb Collins
>tfw we like putin anyway whats your point?
Lucas Murphy
I'm not saying he did. I'm saying this is a new propoganda method to "the weat" and I want people ot be aware
Ryder Stewart
Not what I'm saying mate
Kevin Peterson
>The entire Russian military spends less money than all of our intelligence agencies. Only an Ameritard could think that being the most corrupt country on the planet is proof that Murrica is #1.
Nicholas Price
And how did you come to this brilliant conclusion? 3 blunts after watching Adam Curtis' latest film?
Kevin Phillips
What's the next step in his master plan?
Oliver Stewart
>twitter.com/JohnnyFr8trane Yeah, I sort of agree. The geo-pol, who knows but it's the method that is fascinating.
twitter.com/JohnnyFr8trane I'd say look at this egg account. I think it's an autobot that repost human-controlled accounts, that are part of the troll army.
The swell in traffic creates echo chambers.
Just go there and start clicking
Joshua Smith
lol, you really think a nation of squating krokodile addicts have the money, power, or intelligence to do anything like this?
the boogeyman you are looking for is the kikes.
Daniel Scott
However...
I don't want the Ukraine in NATO either, so I'm glad the Russians won this round.
Justin Thomas
> trump voters didnt vote for hillary because shes a laying murderous bitch that has a record of mischief and political failures > turmp voters did so because putin told them to
lol get fucked fagot
Jace Allen
It is literally what you're saying.
Brandon Ramirez
And Hillary didn't have a sophisticated propoganda teams?
Gavin Myers
I could be wrong with all my claims. And I could be wrong about that. I just want to put a magnifying glass on it.
Lincoln Evans
>ITS JUST THE ESTABLISHMENT PROPAGANDA >american intelligence estimates that by 2007 russian espionage (including influence operations) surpassed cold war levels >ITS JUST ESTABLISHMENT PROPAGANDAAAAAAA!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEE
Gabriel Parker
I'm not anything. I'm a lurker when it comes to most things
Logan Diaz
apparently not when a mongolian meme harvesting clay tablet swapmeet beat her shit riddled pants over and over.
Alexander Rogers
No. Personal experience. Curtis is generally correct though. On this issue
Jace Butler
Look it's all spy games and drama of the elite. Literally Moscow and DC drama. Nations have been interfering with each others political processes for a very long time. Yes the rules and methods have changed. Yes it's still the same old game.
Brody Nguyen
>(((I'm just saying)))
Henry Murphy
Backing out so soon? I was hoping we'd have a bit more fun.
> ITS JUST A FUCKING LEAF
Leo Allen
no idea. They destabalise China and Nato concedes some ground and states to Russia maybe. Best guess
Justin Murphy
>no source on a statistic that can't be objectively measured
If there is a way to objectively measure it, I'd love to see a comparison of Russian propaganda to US propaganda.