OBAMA MANAGES FINAL STOCK RALLY, DOW JONES SOARS 10% IN ONE MONTH

lets see drumpf try to beat that

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but

didnt the election of trump influence that

Implying this isn't entirely due to trump. Feels good the Dow will break 20k and that nigger will have no legacy

>implying this isn't a bubble
>implying it won't burst in the next year

It's gonna be YUGE

No, politicians don't affect finances. Remember that for the rest of your life. Stop believing the bullshit from media, and try to actually educate yourself on economics and finances.

well they can do an extent, especially using central banks

drumpf caused it nigger

>bubbles are good

Also it started to soar after Trump got elected so try again.

>Trump gets elected
>stocks soar
>DRUMPF BTFOOOOO BASED OBAMA

>politician gets elected who widely ran on a platform of deregulation in business
>markets going up is clearly in no way related to that news...

>rally begins exactly when news hits the world that democrats will be booted out of power for 8 years

Really makes you think :^)

>graph not adjusted for inflation
macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart

yea fuck off

point to a policy put forth by/acclaimed by obama that would cause 'economic growth'
and show me where the DJIA is a good fucking indicator of economic health for the average american

>Inb4 Obama leaf

>every increase is a bubble

Everyone's an economic expert now.

Hey dummy

ever hear about quantitative easing? how they're printing insane amounts of money and yet the velocity continues to decline?

sounds like a bubble to me.

Wednesday the Fed is meeting to announce whether or not they will raise rates. They will and the bubble will pop, framing Trump and "confirming" the confirmation biases of idiot leftys that Trump will kill economy. All this shit was planned but Trump will persevere and the economy will bounce back. Get out of the market while you still can!!

I'm all ready tired of winning desu

>he doesn't know how stock prices and indices are valuated

holy fucking retard

>he doesn't know politics and finance are inseparable
stay poor faggot

>Implying the DJIA is even a good indicator of the health of the stock market.
It's 30 companies Dow Jones pulled out of its ass. Means fuck all.

>Trump appears to win election day
>stocks plummet from all the Hillary fags sellings their shit asap in fear
>Trump wins
>highest post election economy ever
>T-Trump is picking bad choices! Wah~! They're all racist rich folk that don't know how to fix an economy!
>continues to go up with Trump's cabinet choices
>T-This was obviously Obama's doing, D-drumpf btfo!

>politicians don't affect finances
wew
Funny thing is, if the stocks were going down I'm positive people like you would blame it on Trump

>barely above 1999 levels

This is why a "stock market bubble" is a meme

As you can guess by the flag I'm economically illiterate.

So is it good or bad that Dow Jones will reach 20k and why?

OBAMA LEAF COMIN THROUGH!

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As always it's a stupid fuckin leaf trying to give us his opinion on the U.S. market.

Go suck a dog dick faggot

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f-fucking drumpf ree

I still don't understand what "raising the rates" does... Pls spoonfeed

Are these actually supposed to be shitposts? Or are they actually trying to be passed off as actual arguments? It's hard to tell now

It means they inflated the shit out of the economy (again). If the Fed raises interest rates too fast and cuts money supply it's gonna come tumbling down again.

Having said that it would be really stupid of the Fed to torpedo the economy under Trump because IMO he would just axe the Fed. But never underestimate greed.

American economy
>4.6% unemployment(full employment)
>200,000 jobs created every month since the 2008 recession
>tons of high paying jobs
>graduates can actually find jobs, STEM grads are making 75k starting
>people can afford houses
>Americans STILL complain about the """bad""" economy

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this

Trump'sc victory made stocks drop! Read a book?!

>copycat thread
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Saged

Don't worry Wang, once we blacklist the nigger countries there will be more spots for Asians.

I've been waiting for this for the last 2 years.
Its like one long denied orgasm
It'll be fun when it happens.
The inevitable shitshow that will spread to this side of the atlantic will be particularly fun

Fuck man that 1920s dip....

> the federal funds rate is the interest rate at which depository institutions (banks and credit unions) lend reserve balances to other depository institutions overnight, on an uncollateralized basis. Reserve balances are amounts held at the Federal Reserve to maintain depository institutions' reserve requirements.

its still a bubble

it just so happens that the current world economy and the financial situation is so shit and suffering from so much deflation that only through central bank inflation and bubble/burst cycle creation can this thing stay up

Keep your head down igor, lest a russian mortar blow u up

>that 1920s dip

That was the Great Depression

How many are part time jobs for Tyrone and shaniqua leaf?

>Obama did this
nothing to do with the incoming president, we all know stock never fluctuates based on future projections.

if the thing pops, it'll have consequences as big or larger than 2008.

Fed has no guns. Maybe, at best, helicopter money. But if the thing bursts by raising rates, I doubt that helicopter money will work. You'll have a Fed/Central Bank credibility crisis on top of everyting else

95% full time jobs actually. Where do you get your right wing retard talking points from?

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Trump being elected caused people to invest in American conpanies you fucking faggot.

The drop that occurred when Trump was elected was elites and retards "panicking" that the stock would drop

>There's always a dip before a rise
>Economy 101

What are expectations? You understand that many of the best financial and economic models rely on expectations. Hopefully the Russians can teach you something once they take back your entire country.

Being that stocks hinge more on speculation and futures, I'd say that this has a lot more to do with Trump than Obama.

maybee because the official numbers are bullshit

QE 1, 2, and 3. Expansionary OMOs

>stock market is shit on Obama takeover
>starts to recover once Republicans take Congress and shut down his bullshit
>here we are in 2016 and stocks soar because Trump got elected
yeah OP Obama's a real big winner.

It's the same retard leaf in every economic thread who doesn't know the difference between splitting full time jobs into part time jobs and actual economic growth.

>we're going to raise interest rates next quarter
>raise it by 1e-23 percent

>OBAMA MANAGES FINAL STOCK RALLY, DOW JONES SOARS 10% IN ONE MONTH

The profoundly sad truth of this will be Obama and the Democrats taking fake credit for this.

Don't expect that leaf to understand why stock market indexes are inflated due to record low interest rates.

youtube.com/watch?v=d14ipSSz3Ss

when it all comes crashing down they'll know who to blame, let's hope the donald doesn't fall for the QE meme

>this is what idiots think

Do you know what an emotional market is?

means you have to pay more back on loans, shrinks money supply + ability to invest

yes.

but it influenced it because the jews are pumping the stock market with billions right now.

they're going to convince normies to invest their savings into the market with 1-touch invest apps in the upcoming years or so.

then they will crash the market and scam all the normies of their money.

I don't doubt after they raise the rates, the leaf will be condemning Trump for breaking the economy

Obviously

but raising the rates is healthier in the long run

you ready goyim

So it's not Obama's economy or accomplishment then.

That's true, but whoever is presiding will be blamed for making the economy worse.

>Obama waved his magic wand and made the dow rally
good one faggot.

If anyone thinks that isn't completely artificial they're kidding themselves.
Don't be left holding the bag. Sell out now

>politicians don't affect finances
lol maybe not in your war-torn russian province, this is the united states, we have the reserve currency of the world, and the fed does whatever the president says (up until the point it can jew its own way out of things)

i know that goyim, this is going to be a huge crash, trump wont get in because he will recover our country he is the hero but the evil ones want hilliary or obama in again so since hilliary lost obama will get 3rd term

because we're capable of REAL full employment where the only people not working have chosen not to while having enough to live on, we're capable of ensuring virtually all those jobs are salaried with benefits and PTO, and we're capable of brain-draining literally all of europe while doing it.

>trump wont get in because he will recover our country he is the hero but the evil ones want hilliary or obama in again so since hilliary lost obama will get 3rd term
I don't think an economic crash is enough to warrant Obama claiming emergency powers

It wasn't Obama who did that. It was President Elect God-Emporer Trump. Pssh, silly Liberals.

but that's bullshit

the FFR is the rate at which the FR member banks lend money to each other. they are the center ring of the system. they fix this price to maintain a cartel on lending.

in general, interest rates on savings rise when a bank needs more money. they are advertising that they will pay you more over time, if you'll bring your money to them now. they do this when there are investments to make in business (or in trades/markets) but they don't have the capital they need to start those. and that happens when people start lots of small businesses that the banks are sure will be successful.

and vice versa: interest rates fall when banks already are stuffed with savings from people. but why do people save vs. spend?

well it turns out that people will stuff banks with cash savings when they want to buy things later, rather than buy things now. that means businesses with very long-term, audacious projects can be more fruitful when consumers are deciding to do this, on net -- those things will be ready later, not now. say for example, a theoretical electric vehicle that can go 500 miles on a charge that takes 15 minutes to top off and can intermittently hit 120mph while doing it.

but when people need things now, they don't save as much. consequently, successful businesses will be turning out things like, just toilet paper. no long-term projects can survive this market.

and that is simultaneously how consumer decisions inform banks which businesses are likely to be more successful than others.

the federal reserve steps in and just sets the rate without analyzing the market whatsoever. they hold the FOMC meeting to pretend to do so, fix the rate, then 4-6 months later release the meeting notes. it is an entirely mundane, classic market intervention, disruptive to the core, and it creates the boom/bust cycle because lending money affects ALL business. a credit bubble is always the true culprit.

It's because of Trump you fucking mongoloid. He's doing more as president right now than Obongo is.

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Why do you talk like you came straight out of black twitter? Fuck off nigger

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The only literal reason its gone up so much is that all the depressed industries that Trump promised to aid skyrocketing on his winning the election. Tech for example is actually quite depressed and hasn't budged much if at all. So the credit does go to Trumps win.

I am actually cynical enough to believe that the market is being panic bought and that Yellen is going to raise rates like a motherfucker to compensate and Trump will get blamed for some stupid shit like the markets plunging 9000 in a year rather than his empowering all industries like he did do.

democrats will do any dirty tricks they can to stop Trump.

Sux 2 be u tree flake

thats not remotely how the stock market works

TRUMP'S PROPOSED TAX BREAKS AND DEREGULATION OF BANKS IS 100% THE REASON THE DOW IS SKYROCKETING OFF THE CHARTS

MY STOCK PORTFOLIO HAS GONE UP $37,000 SINCE NOV 7TH! THANK YOU LORD EMPEROR TRUMP!!!!!!

Oh hi nigger-leaf! Here to show more skewed graphs that morph the narrative to fit your arguement?


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