Cost of housing

>Apartments cost $700+ for a 1 bedroom
>Only get to enjoy said apartment in the few hours between coming or going to work and sleeping.
>Half of millennials age 18-34 still live at home with parents.
Fuck this, I can't afford to move out either. Even if I could, rent would eat up 100% of my income, or I'd have to share a room. And I don't even live in a big city, I live in a city of only 62000 in Northern California. I'm 30 and still living with my parents, and at this rate, I will probably be living with my parents well into my 30's and maybe even when I'm 40.

America really does need to make housing more affordable. And that means changing many of our laws and getting rid of people. We could change zoning laws to allow taller buildings, shared bathrooms, kitchens, and living rooms, and smaller apartments. And hopefully Trump will get rid of the Mexicans and Chinese investors driving up housing costs.

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>shared bathrooms, kitchens, and living rooms

yeah

no

fuck you

why don't you get roomates? Also how much do you make a year?

People should buy houses when they are ready to start their own family. Live and help your family as long as possible until you are ready to start your own.

Get a roommate loser.

I make under $16,000 a year.

By moving out of my parent's house, I don't want to significantly lower my standard of living. That's what would happen if I had to share a bedroom and work longer hours. It would lower my standard of living and raise my stress.

I should have a choice if I want to share a bathroom, kitchen, and living room with others on the same floor if I want. I shouldn't be barred from doing so just because of building laws.

That's what the Russians did under Communism, they build these huge apartment buildings with small living areas and shared bathrooms, living rooms, kitchens, and heating. Many poor Americans would much rather take this over living with their parents, being homeless, or paying half their money in rent.

>$700 rent
>eats up 100% of your income

You're exaggerating right?

Get a second job you bum. Go make something of yourself.

When it comes to these threads about the cost of living in America, Americans are so quick to blame each other and point the finger at each other. Americans are like masochists trying to one up each other on how shitty their quality of life is and how little free time they have.

Why not join military? (free housing)
Or get a better job? Wtf pays that little

Get the fuck over it. You have no power over the cost of housing, and government should have less to do with it.

Either go make enough to live comfortably, or kill yourself faggot

How the fuck do you make that little especially in commiefornia? I doubt you're working full time. Even if you're making $10 an hour (min wage in cali) you should be making at least 20k a year before taxes and at 30 you should have gotten your shit together by now and have the capability to at least make like 40-50k.

Did you learn ANY marketable skills in the last 10+ years of your life?

you're acting like you're owed housing or something? People are telling you to get a second job because you're making the same as a high school drop out that works 20 hours a week. Instead of getting butthurt you should heed their advice.

my rent is 350 pounds,have enough left for food bills and spends

just dropped 400 quid on a neo geo aes and 700 on a new gfx card

>400 quid

how much is that in pounds

More importantly, how much in stone?

3.50lbs, depending on the bills used

Because your idea of how shitty it is makes you look like a whiny fucking retard. You have the options available to live within your means you just refuse to accept it because you want more and more and more. Just kill yourself commie nigger, you don't want to work for it.

>tfw when i rent a house for 600 a month with good schools and no niggers

its only the millenial faggots in new york and LA that are bitching about this dumb shit

Housing is very far from a free market. Its just not a free market at all. There are severe building and zoning laws that control what houses are allowed to be built. There are severe laws that protect the tenants at the cost of the landlord. Housing prices have inflated tremendously in many places along the West Coast because of Chinese investment.

Something is wrong with the system when half of millenials are living with their parents, when so many people who want to move out cannot afford to.

>humans for all of history used to live with their parents
>it takes until millennial faggots to get here tha this is a problem

>Live in Assachusetts
>$1400+ for a one bedroom
>Utilities not included

stop whining at get a job.

If you have time to fucking complain about your shitty life online, you have time to get a second job.

You'll make better money then, and can put some of it away in order to move somewhere decent later. Or else, you'll simply have no time to worry about your shitty apartment, since you'll be too busy working or sleeping. Either way.

blame yourself then fix yourself faggot. you make 16k because you are shit. increase your income.

If you are 30 and you live with your parents you're opinion doesn't count here kys and give them the life they deserve. A life without you.

It's a combination of things famalam not just house prices. The COL adjusted average wage has been going down steadily for the past few decades.

60k jobs are almost as hard to come by as they were 15-20 years ago but the value of 60k has obviously gone down since then.

Then go buy all the real estate from the chinks and do what you want with it.

Oh wait, you can't because your a basement dwelling permafaggot

I rent a 4 bedroom 2 bathroom 2,000 sq. foot house in Texas for $1,200. Completely gated, spacious yard with porch, laundry, and 1 car garage.

I live in on a major/trendy street/area in a fairly large city. I pay $800/month rent with all utlities included for a one-bedroom. I like with my girlfriend so that's $400 a month for rent and utilities. Fucking nothing.

Young people are just bad at managing money and good at complaining.

>unemployment 4.6%(full employment)
>high paying jobs everywhere
>university grads making 70k starting
>low cost of living

There's no excuse not to be wealthy living in America

really $700 a month
My mortgage is $2800 add homeowners insurance and nearly $7k a year in property taxes

>Official unemployment stats

It's far high leafman. They don't count men who dropout of the job market entirely.

I see you've got some nice stuff. Why don't you sell some of it?

You've got a computer with an internet connection. Possibly a television with netflix and cable. Possibly a gaming console. Did you think about how much those things would cost you per month?

Consider giving those things up. If you're watching television, jerking it to porn or gaming, you're not earning money. those things take time and cost money. You can get along fine without a home internet connection, netflix and movies, and television. A shitty Straight talk android phone and the local library's internet and you can still stay in touch with people you need to stay in touch with and conduct important business online.

Entertainment is not a right, it's a privilege, and most people haven't earned it.

then you get a housing market crash. without the money spent on housing being as high as it is it decreases gdp growth and bank revenue. this causes a contraction in the american economy and companies do hiring freezes and cut spending

which also decreases gdp growth so you end up with 2 waves of decline. the smarter route is to try to force companies to hire people and hope the extra cash flow generates more growth so that you dont need the chinks

Commies get out

You're complaining about $700 for a 1 bedroom apartment?

Wow OP, you're delusional. That's how much you get monthly in a 24 hour workweek at MINIMUM WAGE.

Why not give your parents $700 a month for rent?
Is it common for you to request services without consideration of payment?

>30 minutes from work
>$500 for 2 bedrooms
>Some shitty mid sized brick building in a one horse town
>comfy
>no cops, just the sheriff

The worst situation I've been in where my options were shit was when I was living with my parents without a job. That's about it. And yet I see people who voluntarily go to NYC and then bitch about the apartments over there. If your job is that great, so great that you're willing to move to NYC, then surely it will pay you a living wage. But it doesn't, because there's nothing special about you. You were just a chump who managed to travel over there.

Where I live all I see are bimmers, audi's, mercedes, porsche, lexus, etc and most of the people who drive them are under 40 with many in their 20's. I see so many FB posts of people my age talking about how they aspire to own one of these cars (most of them right out of college and not even close to being wealthy).

Most young people just wanna act flashy with their money and spend it on fun shit so they're content with living with their parents if it means they drive a 3 series LOL.

i have a 3 bed 2 bath 2 car garage house in midwest white suburbia for only 680/mth. dont live in shitty cities.

>doesn't want roommate
>wants communal toilets

Crashes are normal. We need a housing market crash, and I hope one comes under Trump.

Economic crashes are what allows new players to enter the game. A stock market crash allows new investors to invest money, and a housing market crash allows new people to afford housing who wouldn't be able to afford one pre-crash.

Same as me user. Norcal bay area here. Im 31. Live at home. Hope is new job at airport will be my ticket to a transfer outta this hellhole.

>18-34
>millennial

Worst meme that's currently active.

You're going to have to move away from Cali or live in a complete shithole paying for what is called an interest loan.

I'm just biding my time til boomers start dropping like flies, and their unsold houses start piling up for cheap. It's going to be glorious how far the market crashes

700 in rent
100 for gas and electric and water
50 for internet
100 for gas to get to work
150 for food

1,100 a month just to live. Good luck saving money

Whoever lives in the place pic was taken, PLEASE clean off your fridge and cabinets. Holy fuck, are you dirty.

wait. Lodi?
as minimum wage and wage in general goes up, so does the cost of living. with $10 as minimum, you can expect a higher cost of living

>make housing more affordable
Nope. That's not the problem. Try again.

Assuming you're working full-time (40 hours a weak) at minimum wage ($9.00 USD) you'd be making around $360/week. That's $1440 for four weeks or almost a month of work before taxes. That's enough to to pay rent and feed yourself for a month, but not much else. If you only make enough to scrape by and your job prospects aren't offering you much room to save money or make more then be prepared to get trapped renting for a long time. Personally, I know people who'll probably be renting for the rest of their lives. I don't know how the housing market is in your state, but to my knowledge affordable housing is plentiful. Build a line a credit, take out a mortgage on a property and live in it instead of forking over $700 to the landlord. Take into consideration what sort of expenses you'll need to cover. Best case scenario you have enough space to rent to someone and live in the property which will ease the burden on yourself.

Buy a van for 1.5k live out of that.

It's fucking ridiculous how expensive houses are in the DC area. 400k gets you a shitty 1940's era house in the ghetto. 600k is bare minimum to be in a nice middle class neighborhood. The affluent neighborhoods are full of 700k-1M houses on tiny lots that are 40+ years old.

Shits impossible to afford as a single person even if you're making decent salary and save every penny. You need multiple six figure incomes just to live in a middle class neighborhood with decent schools.

$500 rent
$70 internet
$30 phone
$60-80 electric
$150 student loan payments
$235 car payment
$100 gas/month
$95 insurance
$200 food
$300 savings
$200 pocket money

GET. ANOTHER. JOB.
YOU FUCKING BUMS

You don't get the right to live in the heart of a major world hub as your first residence unless you've made it with money to afford that.

MOVE SOMEWHERE YOU CAN FUCKING AFFORD. America has some of the cheapest housing and homes in the world.

It makes my fucking blood boil gen y and gen z cunts who complain they can't afford to live in the heart of Sydney, Hong Kong, London, Tokyo, California.

These are financial hubs of the fucking world, you have no right to demand cheap housing from one of these locations. Your parents couldn't afford it so why the fuck do you think you should?

This fucking entitled attitude of this generation. yes I mad.

I own several properties an hour of Sydney, which have doubled in the last 10 years. If people stopped fucking whinging about their first property and investing they could afford in their dream location by now.

I could afford to live in Sydney in a shitty million dollar house easily. But why? When I can get 2 properties for that exact same price with little variation in rent doubling my instant return investment.

I should have faked a disability claim when I was young

So you can work part time on min wage and still get by. How the fuck is that bad?

The housing and rental industry is just a big scam so you can go pay some old boomer or young homosexual's mortgage. It's the new age of slavery at it's finest.

The boomers in the old days rented for very little. Their parents were not profiting much at all off of them. The boomers on the other hand are becoming millionaires easily off of rental properties.

The best thing you can do if you are a lower wage worker is find serious people to throw down on a deed or rental responsibilities.

Don't put up with bullshit, you will find leeches who just want a free ride, make sure you run your house like boss.

I'd say find an actual house to rent and split it up between 4 or 5 people to pay. I know, it sucks but look it's either you learn to live together and save money or pay the big $600+ per month just as the base rental cost.

Your parents are almost dead and you're about to inherit the house, take a knee and run out the clock.

>(You)

Yes I live in Lodi. The Stockton-Lodi housing market has become the fifth hottest housing market in the nation. I don't know why, there's not much to do or see here. I think Chinese investors are moving inland and trying to take over the Central Valley.

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Moving out of my parent's house would result in me having very little free time, going on food stamps, eating crappy food, and not having any money to save or go on vacation with. I'm not willing to deal with the stress of sharing a room with a stranger again.

Buy some shitty house in Kentucky for $400, befriend the injuns, and ride off into the moonset, Silver Horse.

>Falling for the lease meme

Inheritance tax.....

do you live in marin?

anyway i make 18k/yr from ssdi

>30
>$700 rent is too high for you
Nigga you have failed at life

> $700+ for a 1 bedroom
Where is it, rural town?

$8*40*4 = 1280

That's full time and just barely

>tfw trust fund baby
>26 years old and never worked a day in my life
>paying over 1k a month for an apartment
i am such an idiot

I've got enough saved to buy a home

I'm patient enough to wait for the market to crater and save a shit ton of $

Here is another good one.

Find 3 or 4 women. Get them all to live with you.

Get them all to have your kids.

You and one other one works... they get welfare.

You and the other girl pay for the maintenance of the house and transportation.

The other 2 or 3 women take care of the kids.

The girls take turns working, on and off.

Non existent in Australia unless you sell the property to cash out straight away on their death.

Inheritance tax in europe and the u.s is the biggest fucking scam in history. Pay tax entire life on everything earnt. Guess what? Someone else can pay that tax again!

It's not too bad in the U.S. but it's there.

Sadly, my parents divorced and remarried so i won't be seeing that half million dollars likely.

Min wage is 10 bux tho? Can't you get on welfare?

At the age of 30 how are you not able to get a higher paying job? There are plenty of unskilled jobs that pay 15-20 an hour. It's not uncommon to exceed 30k a year as a waiter.

What state?

Only works if you're Chad

hello op. fellow northern californian here. A word of advice to you.

get a job.

I work 40 hrs a week making 2g a month paying 500/mo rent. 25% of income going to rent is really not that bad. Not even sure if I'll stay in my current place which is fine because lease is up in 6 months anyhow. I'll have a better deal worked out by then as I am already in the process of searching. As one should always be. Always searching for new higher paying jobs too. That doesn't keep me from showing up to work every morning. Come on bro. Go outside. Live your life.
t. 21 year old

Are you near a city? Or are you in a flat, hot, wasteland?

yeah lie sucks.

heil hitler but no one listens.

so the dream slumbers for the worthy. because only the worthy deserve paradise.

get it?

ONLY THE WORTHY DESERVE PARADISE!

AND ONLY THE WORTHY ARE WILLING TO FIGHT TO GET IT.

What state?

Land is pretty cheap bruv.
Since I go to school and work my mom pays half my rent, of course I give her all my paychecks and work 30 hours per week. I plan to get a good job in the computer science field, save up and buy land, then I'll ask for my Grandpa's help building a house because he's built several before, then I can work remotely. I think it will only take half a decade to save up for it if I get a good job. But wew lad, this is fucking hard to deal with, school is so hard dude.

says the non-independent person.

Orlando metro is pretty cheap. Norfolk-Virginia Beach metro as well.
I live in Winter Park about 15 minutes from downtown Orlando and pay $750

There is nothing wrong with living with your parents if you are contributing to the household and planning to take it over.


It's dead beats that need to a length of rope


But yeah housing prices are artificially inflated because nobody wants to take a loss. The bank figures they own the property and they are never going to take a loss on the property they own so even if the market plummets the banks will never sell these assets for less than what they bought them for.

As for apartments, those are based on relative housing prices. Example neighborhood with 75-150k dollar homes rent is typically 450-700, however places where homes are 400k-1.5 million rents is about 1.8k- 3.2k


In short it's the fucking jews fault again

chill its not real dirt and dust its intentional to give it a nice authentic look

Get rid of property taxes. Why should I have to pay money to own property? Makes owning a home, not owning at all. Its renting.

>much roads, police, fire, & schools

How does one respond to this?

that's what you get for living in such a shit state. I make barely more than your minimum wage yet I can afford a 1,500 sq ft 3 bedroom 2 bathroom with a garage apartment

>70k starting

Fug. You MIGHT make 70k starting as a junior engineer in a nuclear plant, but that's in Maple leaf dollars alongside high cost of living and a dollar with 75% that of the USD.

Canada is shit!

>Get trade job
>Move the fuck out of Commiefornia (No matter where prices will be inflated to all hell)

With that it sits around 10~% but this includes
>Those who drop out
>People too sick to work
>People incapable of working due to disability
Surprisingly not many people on the whole aren't working. 10% is rather workable and low. When you get into the 15+% that's when you worry.

Current issue is severe underemployment.

>Professor buys house before crash at normal ass price
>Gets a loan set up
>Bank offers two loan types. Adjustable and fixed
>Professor is a smart man, both a PhD holding professor and a bar status lawyer
>Takes the fixed
>Banker tries his hardest to stop him
>Housing market goes full retard with the adjustable rates
>His is nice and stable
>Laughs

>junior engineer in a nuclear plant

lmao maybe if your mom is the HR person, otherwise good luck against the other 10,000 applicants

I'm not OP but min wage around me is $8. OP is probably retarded, but still even retards should be able to be self sufficient

damn. i live 25 miles from you. small world

You never heard of income taxes?

>cost $700+ for a 1 bedroom
Do you live in the fucking ghetto?
Or in the middle of nowhere?
How about getting a better fucking job instead of being a gib?
Or, better yet, get a mortgage for a duplex and rent out the lower unit...

>It's fucking ridiculous how expensive houses are in the DC area
user Ill let you in on a secret.

Lawmakers got fucked pissed not too long ago at how shitty DC is because its ghetto niggered. So they are leaning on the banks to price the niggers out into Baltimore and VA.

>1,100 a month just to live. Good luck saving money
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAHHA
Found the Sanders supporter, guys.

You must live somewhere shitty. Currently renting a /comfy/ one bedroom house for 400 per month in the small town I live.

Getting long-term disability through an insurance company isn't difficult. Getting disability through social security while you're young is next to impossible.

It's not terribly difficult. If you have a high GPA (3.8+) or have decent grades + did an internship with OPG, you can get a direct hire. t. nuclear fag

Right now they have a hard time retaining talent because no one wants to stay in Pickering because it's shutting down within the next decade.

I went to work in Ottawa to live with the gf and I'm getting 60k to live in expensive as fuck Ottawa.

I'd rather just move to Texas.