MARXISM-LENINISM GENERAL

Welcome to /mlg/ - Marxism-Leninism general.
This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to fulfill societal demands.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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Hi comrade

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War is Peace,
Freedom is Slavery,
Ignorance is Strength

Get a job, you lazy pinko scum

>let's pretend all people are the same and have the same work ethic
>let's pretend all people will be incentivised to work solely for the good of the community
>yeah ok sounds good m8

Literally, every, time.

this is a thread for dumbfucks

daily reminder that communism is for people of low self esteem and zero personal independence

Hi

If you'd read any Marx you'd know that the goal of the revolution is so human beings can pursue whatever kind of work they wish. Or not work.

Thread's over, cumrags.

cumrags

GDP is a bourgeois measure of economic success. Just producing shit doesn't mean that the people are happy or materially satisfied. In communism there are other goals.

1. Who cleans the toilets and sewers, and who decides?
2. What if I work in a factory and I don't work as hard as my other workers, what happens to me?
3. Where did the Soviets and Chinese (among others -- all others) go wrong?

For instance, not starving to death.

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Lol these commie faggots can't even answer questions and argue properly, enjoy your blind ideological brains you uncritical thinking short-sighted faggots

fuck this thread and fuck white people

pinko faggots only know subversion, nothing else

Marx was a kike.

Lenin was a kike.

Communism is a kike ideology.

I pity you.

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You're the kike worshiping chink.

Pity yourself you anti-White faggot.

Idealism>Materialism

Even Cultural Marxists know this.

You remind me of an injured animal screaming in fear, like a horse trapped in a burning barn. Simple mind can't understand anything so you cling fervently to stupid notions.

>You remind me of an injured animal screaming in fear, like a horse trapped in a burning barn. Simple mind can't understand anything so you cling fervently to stupid notions.
You're full of shit.

Communism is Jewish.

Jews are anti-White.

Thus, Communism is anti-White.

Also, chinks like you don't belong in White countries.

Take your Satanic ideology and shove it up your ass.

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How can people as simple-minded as you exist?

You literally haven't presented a single argument this entire thread you blistering fucking idiot.

Don't make threads anymore, seriously, you can't handle it. You can't even defend your own shitty ideas. I bet you're a failure who wishes for Marxism so you won't have to pull your own weight, like every other lefty faggot complainer.

Get your shit together Nippon, Japs are usually based don't fuck it up.

1) Depends if you're talking about Socialism (with wages) or Communism (without money). Either these tasks will be automated away or bound to special privileges or you yourself have to clean your toilet. Decisions are made in the same democratic fashion as it is today, although more federated, direct and, of course, money will not play any role.

2) Nothing. What you get is dictated by your need, not your ability to conform to a certain economic model. You will probably say that this stifles productivity, but thanks to automation, a high productivity is now more of a problem than a boon insofar as there aren't enough jobs globally for people to get enough purchasing power to support the economy. Capitalism solves this by increasing exploitation and outsourcing production into third-world-countries where the wages are low and there are no regulations.
This will not work forever, as there isn't that much space for capitalism to expand to, and people in the first world can't individually consume much more than they already do.

3) Oh boy. This question warrants an own thread, but in all brevity: The soviets never made the shift to socialism because they were fighting a very taxing war and needed all their organization for it, so they just seized the existing state bureaucracy instead of rebuilding society. Then a paranoid maniac came into power and it all went downhill.
China is interesting in that Marxism plays an important role for the party, but not for it's economy. "Chinese Characteristics" is basically Confucianism.

I'm just bored and disinterested at the moment.
I don't have any desire to 'argue' after making this thread. I don't care if it 404s.

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>Where did the Soviets go wrong?

Communism wasn't supposed to be an isolated revolution, like the October Revolution. Marx knew that an isolated communist society, besieged on all sides by capitalism, couldn't survive.

Marx was writing about a "world historic" revolution, in which the world proletariat seizes the means of production around the entire globe all more or less at the same time.

When the Chinese and Russians had their revolutions, they thought they were kicking off the "world historic" revolution and then found they were wrong, and the good Marxists among them knew they were fucked. And they were.

SORT YOURSELF OUT

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