Burger asks Britbongs stupid questions

1.Is Corbyn to be taken seriously, or is he just the Sanders of the UK?
2.Is Labour completely BTFO at this point?
3.Is Farage an absolute madman, or is that just his face?
4.I hear you are leaving Europe, where will you put your island? Near Canada?
>remember, am burger, please use small words and reply in the Queen's English

Not bong, but pretty sure they still love their communist party.

>1.Is Corbyn to be taken seriously, or is he just the Sanders of the UK?
He's in a serious position as he's the leader of the opposition. The Labour party is realistically one of two parties that can form a Government. However, Labour are now polling at around 25%, compared to the Conservatives at 42%. He's so ideollogically apart from Labour's target demographic that he's a sitting duck at the next election, and in real terms, somewhat useless.
>2.Is Labour completely BTFO at this point?
Yes and no. Immediately yes, however the Labour brand name still carries and a lot of people would care about it if it came back to sanity. However the party is ideologically split between 3 groups. First are the traditional Labour voters in the North of the country, who are often blue collar and nationalist. They are completely at odds with the party's identity politics at will likely gravitate to UKIP. Then you have metropolitan middle classes, who may move towards the Liberal Democrats, who are they type of votes the current Democratic party who seek in the USA. Finally, there's the far-left, 'Sanders crowd', who may now be more ideologically comparitive to the Green Party, however are currently being served well by a Corbyn leadership.
>3.Is Farage an absolute madman, or is that just his face?
Farage is very much in control of his public image, he's very strict regarding photoshoot opportunities apparently. But he does have a strange face, it's interesting.
>4.I hear you are leaving Europe, where will you put your island? Near Canada?
Canadians are the type of people we should be avoiding. Just put us in the middle of the Atlantic and FUCK OFF.

thanks m8, about corbyn:
The policies i hear from labour(no company can shut down, leave the country or sell off without offering right of first refusal to workers) sound like decent pro-nationalist policies, is it just the silly IDpol and big government that alienates voters? Or is he way more left than i thought?

I know he is very pro-immigration, I assume this is part of the problem

>The policies i hear from labour(no company can shut down, leave the country or sell off without offering right of first refusal to workers) sound like decent pro-nationalist policies, is it just the silly IDpol and big government that alienates voters? Or is he way more left than i thought?
Jeremy Corbyn is not a nationalist by any means. What he routinely advocates are socialist policies that bring more power to the state. I wouldn't equate the state with nationalism in this instance.

Labour has been typically centre-left. Usually the party that can occupy the centre ground and take voters from the other side wins (as Blair did for Labour in 3 straight elections). Corbyn is a departure from that and very much unashamedly socialist, England (not the UK, when I say England I mean actual England) is naturally one of the most (small c) conservative nations in Western Europe, and very pro-business/anti-Unions.

The identity politics definitely alienates blue-collar traditional voters, who will vote usually on social issues. Regarding immigration, it's obviously an issue here, Corbyn refuses to acknowledge that increased numbers affects demand of housing/services etc. I think a lot of people see through that.

Labours vote share has completely collapsed since 2010, to the point of where they have absolutely no chance of winning an election currently.

Yeah, cause the UK really needs more power to the state

last question, if you have the time:
Do you think UKIP will last in any meaningful sense after Brexit, or are they more of a temporary party for this reason? (are their financial policies popular, or is it mainly the brexit thing that has made them so)

the general vibe I get is that their downfall is analogous to the failure of US Democrats:
failure to connect with working class
IDpol
immigration
more of the same after Blair
Is this accurate?

We actually have a legitimate Communist party lel, although it only has 772 members (from the general public) in total.

No problem Amerifriend.

>Do you think UKIP will last in any meaningful sense after Brexit, or are they more of a temporary party for this reason?
They've served very well as a largely one-issue party up to now. However it's clear to me that they still occupy a demographic that needs representation, which are social conservatives and nationalists. The actual Conservative party is not socially conservative, and so I believe UKIP can hold some share of the popular vote.

The test lies in whether Farage carried the party. However the party's new leader, Paul Nuttall, is from the North and could take disenfranchised Labour voters who are abandoning Corbyn's identity politics. There's also a chance that Brexit doesn't go through, to which the party can still be a force in pushing it through. However, if the Conservatives deliver Brexit successfully, UKIP voters may cross over to them (at least those that cared about the EU primarily).

My guess at this time is UKIP will get less of the vote share at the next election, however will actually pick up a few more seats in Parliament.

100% accurate, also really shitty party leaders (Miliblunder, Comrade Corbyn).

Another big blow is the fact that the SNP (who are even further left and very authoritarian) took pretty much all of Scotland in 2015, which was what Labour had been using for decades to swing the elections in their favour.

Now I have to look into another political party.
Why are you guys so greedy? 2 god-given parties isn't enough for ya?

That's kind of what I thought.
Feel free to leave any other ramblings about Britpol here, I will read them
and thanks

We just like to have slightly less illusion of choice on a bigger scale instead of pretending our one party state actually has two options.

kek
we americans want 47 different kinds of soup when we go shopping, but only two parties- center/right and far-center/right

>Feel free to leave any other ramblings about Britpol here
If Keir Starmer, Dan Jarvis or David Miliband lead the Labour party, they'd immediately return to competitive relevance. That's what you need to look for in the run up to 2020.

>1.Is Corbyn to be taken seriously, or is he just the Sanders of the UK?
Depends what you mean. Basically imagine if Sanders had won the Dem nomination and that's Corbyn. He's the leader of the second biggest party.
>2.Is Labour completely BTFO at this point?
Basically, they're badly split right now, but we're starting to see rifts in the Tories too. If Boris goes hard enough on this Saudi Arabia thing, we might see both parties BTFO
>3.Is Farage an absolute madman, or is that just his face?
Farage is out. He got what he wanted from politics, now he just wants to go back to his old life. He keeps getting dragged back in though, because UKIP is full of incompetents
>4.I hear you are leaving Europe, where will you put your island? Near Canada?
The island is staying where it is, but we're expanding the franchise. Expect to see a man o' war in Boston harbour soon. With a ramp.
>>remember, am burger, please use small words and reply in the Queen's English
U wot m8

We're actually going to make the UK one big thruster and crash into the sun. It's an anglo secret though.

>we might see both parties BTFO
Do you think SNP, greens and/or UKIP have enough popular pull to fill the gap?
>man o' war in Boston harbour
I'll start stocking up on extra copies of the letter u and practice adding extra syllables to the name of metals
>U wot m8
please refrain from using your cockney rhyming slang, I do not understand it

>Do you think SNP, greens and/or UKIP have enough popular pull to fill the gap?
Assuming I'm right and the Tories get fucked as badly as Labour? I don't know. At that point I don't think anyone knows where the balance of power will fall. Sad to say, the party most likely to replace them is the LibDems. Then again, their platform now is very much centered on finding some way to stay in the EU and we already established that the majority don't want that, so who knows. I can't think of anyone else with a realistic chance either.

Has there REALLY been an increase in hate crimes or is it 'hey rabbi watcha doin?' type stuff?

The next 4 will be interesting...could be a free-for-all in 2020

There's been a rise in the REPORTING of hate crimes.

I have no idea how to interpret it, seeing as apparently OFCOM regularly receives complaints for 'hate crimes' i.e. things they disagree with on the TV or on the internet, and I'm unsure if those are counted (I believe they do).