Communism in the Soviet Union:

why did Communism fail so horribly? where did things go wrong?

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Marxism is stupid.

explain.

>communism
Nah, Lenin tried to build a vanguard state to prepare for creating communism.
Stalin tried to build a state for himself, Stalinist USSR was somewhat fascistoid. Far more fascist than communist at least.

The only morons who went for communism were Catalons and Ukrainians, look how that ended up.

I thought it was obvious.

Why do you think it failed? It achieved all the goals of it`s superiors on downing street and on wall street.

> kill all educated people, who can create any opposition > rob the millenium-long accumulated wealth and labour of the nation > force the nation to puppet-play the red boogymen to convince your homenation to suck your dick harder

I agree with Marx in fucking up capitalism and bring on a classless,moneyless, stateless society, even though the dialectical materialism thing is bullshit (not scientific)

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Crying about wanting a society where everyone is 'made equal' is for beta losers who can't compete in life.
It's a fucking pathetic mindset.
The fact is nobody is equal, every time you learn a new skill you are doing so to make yourself inherently more valuable and capable in life. The weak should not be given given a free ride and the strong should not be held back.

Nobody is equal but it can be technologically overcome:

-Eugenics (genetic engineering, breeding, etc)

-Virtual reality(you can virtually have and experience anything)

-Artificial Intelligence: very advanced artificial intelligence could keep track and manage an ethically sustainable society that maximizes happyness for everyone

- Space colonies: Space colonies will most probably be communist, will provide valuable information on how to apply to larger society number.

- Overpopulation control: the more numerous the society the more hard is to control the global community, reducing people by pacific means would be good. Alternative is terraform other worlds too.

Cuz it's a fantasy world

People no one in life is made equal. We all have different skills and abilities so to have a whole system based on the idea of us being equal would not work since the idea is based off a myth

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lol the russians cant even accept responsibility for their own failures and stupidity

your blaming the west for your problems is like whites blaming niggers

What does economize mean in this matrix?
Does it mean "spend as little as possible?" And if so, why wouldn't you spend money on your spouse or children, like you were spending it on yourself?

Communism is 100% incompatible with a nation's happiness. Por ejemplo, see: Mao's "Great" Leap Forward

They ran out of bread.

>- Space colonies: Space colonies will most probably be communist, will provide valuable information on how to apply to larger society number.

You do know why all the crops in the New World died when the Europeans came right?
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Why does your anus bleed after some big bull goes in dry and pounds you like a retard on a drum set.

How do you know that happens if someone goes in dry?

People on pol always hate when I bring this up, but the soviet union would have worked fine if they actually used supply and demand principals to operate their economy. Making shit free just doesn't work, it's better to give everyone a certain amount of money every month, and let them choose what to buy with it.

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Communism in the USSR was always about a Jewish elite replacing the Russian elite. Everything else that followed stems from that fact. End of story.

> Russians did red terror to themselves without any anglo "Com-intern" involved
Yeah, right. And arabs created ISIS by themselves. And Israel appeared in the place it is now all by itself. Ayatolla Homeini and Salot Sar where not educated in western universities as revolutionary leaders, their revolutiuons where not funded by wall street. And afghan jihadists are not moral equivalents of founding fathers. And google does not ask me to identify what pizza looks like.

On the premise that human nature can be changed

Easy, communism does not work with human nature of wanting more stuff than everyone else

Communism - service to others and then himself, capitalism - the service himself and secondarily to others.
Communism does not work because people are imperfect and selfish.

Spending money on your spouse and children is an investment in something you care about, and is the same as spending on yourself.
The reason you buy gifts for people is that it makes you feel good and it's an expression to that person that you care.

Spending your neighbours money on a gift for a strangers wife is completely different.

what the hell is that picture from? kek

Alright that makes sense. But why can public spending then not be viewed as an investment in society at large?

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It didn't fail though. It turned a backwards country into a superpower rivaling half of the world.

it is fundamentally at odds with human nature

What's actually good:

Service to everything including ones self.

that makes it even funnier

Russia was going to be getting railroads soon anyways, it's actually one of the reasons why Germany wanted to go to war against Russia before 1917.

Because he fucked a big bull. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA so fucking funny leaf.

Revisionist Khruschev took power and it all started to go downhill from that moment.

this is possible in an idealistic world where there is no need to work for material goods and everyone can read each other's thoughts.

Because it is subject to both greed and sloth.

It does not keep the rulers from living better than the plebes. sure they may not technically "own" the largeness of the state but the still use it.

And it does not inspire those at the bottom to do anything.


So it can work in a family or a tribe where the greedy and the slothful can be watched closely and thrown out if they exploit the system.

Portions of it might even function in an ethnic or religious state where the people can be shamed into doing thier part. But it's always at odds with people taking more than they should or doing less than they should becase in both cases somone else pays the price.

Lenin tried real communism at first, only to have the Kronstadt revolt.

Stalin's policies were a continuation of Lenin's policies post Kronstadt revolt dialed up.