He has a point, doesn't he?

He has a point, doesn't he?

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Fuck off Communist

Resources aren't free.

>unless the government pays my rent, my bills and covers all my expenses I live in a fascist country full of radicals

who raised these people?

reality deniers, no thanks

really made me think

Whats a "clean election"?

One with low carbon emissions?

GIB ME MONIES

> Looks up the U.S dollar value to countries with pic related
> U.S dollar stronger than all of them

Enjoy raised costs of living.

It sure is easy to demand other people pay for things.

>kulinski
Sup Forums is always right.

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>(((Kulinski)))

Jews

The government

this is because it's based on oil control, any militant socialist state could accomplish the same thing. I say this as someone who thinks socialism is generally retarded, hop off the Americock.

>Clean elections
>letting illegal immigrants vote

>Clean elections
He hasn't seen the Project Veritas videos and the DNC leaks?

I want universal blowjobs too. So many NEETS have to go without.

So when it comes to healthcare, eduction and clean water in Flint, Americans don't have the money. But the military happily spends 1.5 Trillion on fighter jets.

Someone explain that to me.

Where does he think all the money for that comes from?

die commie scum

He didn't vote Clinton.

Did he consider how to pay for this? The countries that can and do provide this usually have extremely high taxes that allow you to buy little else, bad healthcare systems, worse universities, etc.

Well, I agree with him, but I am also one of the few libcucks on this board.

Any militant socialist state would bankrupt itself trying to avoid us smashing them.

>Secular
I thought atheists are supposed to be smart

Liberals have no solutions ever. They just smugly pat themselves on the back for pointing out "problems."

Full Automated Luxury Fascism.

The water in flint isn't a federal issue. State and local governments should be fixing it.

I don't care if you support those things

but to pretend that being against a living wage is "radical" is fucking ridiculous. Pretending that opposition to socialized medicine and education is also "radical" is fucking ridiculous as well.

Here's your education check. Good luck.

Gibsmedats is theft asshole.
You cannot aggress others to give their time and energy to others.
It's STEALING.

>The water in flint isn't a federal issue. State and local governments should be fixing it.
No the federal government should fix it. State and local governments don't have the necessary funds to pay for it without raising taxes, which would just then hurt the state's domestic economy. Let the federal government fix it with their stupid monopoly money that they can't stop printing anyways.

Agreed on that.

>living wage

My living wage means to be able to afford two cars, four room apartment, high speed internet, every weekend dinner in better restaurant, fresh ingredients every day, at least two paid hobby subjects, and to feed my two dogs fresh meat everyday, otherwise it is not living.

Socialists needs to die.

> universal college
> not too much to ask for

REEEEE

>everyone should be able to coast through life and not work if they don't want to
>don't worry though, lots of people will work so I can sit back and enjoy my free income and not worry if I get injured
>you disagree? wow ur such a radical savage


this mentality

Not saying it's too much to ask for, but the world has a lot of maturing to do before these things can be in place and be stable and not widely abused.

Disagree on living wage though. Work for your actual $, if anything give a card that can only buy essentials up to a limit or something.

He wants to tax the rich, close tax loopholes, outlaw hiding money in offshore accounts, etc. He argues if the US can afford to pay trillions for war and bailing out banks then they can surely afford all of this.. never mind the US debt.

All that would work if we lived in a utopian society where human beings didn't cherish wealth, but doing that will just drive the wealthy people to go to China/Japan. I mean sure in an ideal world if all the top 1-5% got together and said "Hey lets just invest everything into American industries and infrastructure" then maybe we could have something, but thats an unrealistic expectation.

FPBP.

Universal Healthcare is effectively Government ownership of human labor (as they can now direct people to work) AND consolidation of medical facilities into government hands (and Governments are not always altruistic, even in medicine - look at the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment for an example in our own country).

Universal College simply means the lessoning of the value of the degreees already earned by people, and the weakening of the edducation system as a whole. Rather, I would like to see primary education return to its classical roots, increasing the difficulty and expectations four fold, and in the doing making High School Diplomas valuable again.

Nobody has a problem with Legal Elections.

A "living wage" is a difficult prospect for a country of 350,000,000 people. Living costs vary from place to place. If the government raised the minimum wage again, then companies would hire fewer people, and increase prices simultaneously (as they have in the past) - this hurts new workers most, as many are unable to find entry-level employment, as employers want to take in more experienced workers (since they will have to pay them an increased amount, that is the most fiscally sound decision).


In short - not really. We are, after all, on the side of the way things are and have always been done. It is difficult to imagine a kind of soft traditionalism being a radical position.

This.

They already tax the rich something like 43%.
You're not going to pay for single payer by raising the already high rate further. Revenues would eventually go down, never mind the other effects

>muh offshore accounts
Nice meme

All of that sounds nice but it doesn't gel with reality. There are too many pieces of shit that take way more than they pay in so you'd be left with hard working people earning more than they receive and lazy people receiving way more than they earn.

>clean elections
www.wikileaks.org

What do ordinary workers need college education for, though?

What about "Universal healthcare for all those who can prove employment based on wages, or those on disability." so we can prevent neets from leeching on it? Hell I am okay with a universal living wage, but it has to promote people still seeking a job and not just 10% of the population living in a trailer and being content with it.

*affordable healthcare*
*affordable education*
*affordable housing*

Does this sound better?

>using my money to finance stupid courses like gender studies and shit like that...

also, the jews are making a fuck ton of money from bullshit courses, there's no way this shit is going free...

universal college is retarded. there's plenty of ways to pay for it, there really isn't that much of an excuse anymore. the amount of minority scholarships is staggering. and beyond that, loans, and military service, you have no fucking excuse.

>but u shouldn't have to die for a college education

1. only around 1 in 7 servicemembers will have an infantry/combat arms job
2. if that's what's stopping you, it obviously wasn't that important to you, then. pay for your gender studies degree another way

Education has a lot of intangible secondary benefits if its something more open than just trade school. You become more politically active, you're able to converse with more people on a wider range of subjects and debate your points orally or written. It helps you make connections and encourages you to read, and assists in building a work ethic unique to the institution. Obviously college isn't needed for every type of employment, but what it offers to the individual is tremendous in society.

>Conscripting citizens to provide you with health care
>Conscripting citizens to pay for your voluntary specialization
>Demanding mob rule
>Conscripting citizens to pay for your food, housing, and entertainment
Just Socialist things.

underrated

Is that a Jew name? Sounds polish

No, he doesn't.
>LET'S JUST GIVE EVERYONE FREE SHIT AND NO ONE WILL HAVE TO WORK

here in Brazil we have universal education, not very expensive to be honest, but we should end bullshit courses

>Don't want to die for Israel? Go back to McDonalds

What if robots do all the work? What would happen to society?

>If you dont think the hardworking people should pay for the poor lazy fucks' life you're radical

oh boy

>Clean elections
>What liberals want
Pick one

>literally a "no u" argument

huh k

Casdraeu types

No big corporate donors and lobbyists.

>being a radical is bad

Nah it's a state problem. They can get fucked if they don't want to deal with it.

i literally made the point against that
no reason to not go be a fucking pog for 4 years, have military experience, and a paid for degree
be a fucking desk clerk, enjoy the salary and benefits, and get out and do whatever the fuck else you wanted to do with your life

You obviously have no idea what is taught at US universities. The things you're talking about are supposed to be taught in high school, but the federal government has fucked that up as well.

>You become more politically active
Marxist indoctrination is not a good thing
>you're able to converse with more people on a wider range of subjects
Rallying and rioting with fellow Marxists is not a good thing.
>debate your points orally or written
Shouting people down and threatening companies who advertise on conservative news outlets with boycotts are not good things.

If university actually taught people these things, you'd almost have a point. You'd still come up short since they're supposed to be taught in high school. University is supposed to be for specialization. Marxists fucked all of this up in the 60s and 70s because they want useful idiots.

>Not wanting to support leeches makes you a radical

W-What?

But who will pay for all of that shit?

We don't live in a world where our neighbors and communities are organic wholes and collective enterprises; we're fragmented, living among aliens, and it's immoral to be forced to support and promote people we have nothing in common with and who don't reciprocate.

Gen X faggots

muh safe spaec

>you're a radical if you don't pay for the entire population around you to go to a school that a large percent will fail and waste your money on
>colleges being heavily biased politically and ruined by safe spaces because people should be shielded from reality
>not realizing this will make these biased colleges super rich, even more influential than before
>not realizing with a huge influx of students that they will push underwhelming scoring students through to keep their cash flow going and lowering the value of their degrees
literally everything that is wrong with communism is pretty much the state of the school system now. most 2 year degrees are completely worthless already.

fix your shit and we'll talk

If getting a job, saving for college, a system that works and working hard is too much to ask for, the 'fucking crybaby' is you.

>clean elections

wtf?

why should i spend money on a person that graduates from college and wants to rage about there being 37 different gender identifications?

seriously asking here

>>clean elections
also this. Explain this. He wants lysol in the voting booths?

Can you explain to me why you think its Marxist indoctrination? Even if you decide to link to a documentary or whatever. Enlighten me. Although I really think you're overreacting to a mostly isolated issue with the current school system.

>works
>talking from THE country with the most suicides due to student debt

I want to be there when the student loan bubble bursts for good.

Well fuck me, I guess I am a radical for not wanting to pay for some else's entire existence.

It's radical to be realistic in knowing the country isn't a Utopian society of sunshine and happiness?

>Clean elections
After Michigan's recount the state has put forward legislature to fix the flagrant voter fraud in Detroit. Thousands of Clinton votes have been thrown out because they were illegally cast.
Here in Chicago there's a joke about how politics is a cycle because you start out voting democrat when you're young, vote republican when you age and wise up, and then vote democrat again after you die. Illinois will always be blue because every election thousands of dead niggers apparently rise from the grave to vote democrat.

tl;dr
Where the fuck do leftists get the unmitigated gall to talk about "clean elections"?
How many illegal votes would we find if there was a recount conducted in Commiefornia?

I only halfway agree with him.

It's okay for roads to be socialized. It's okay for education when your young and impressionable to be socialized. Why is socialized healthcare wrong? Why does socialized education stop when you're old enough to get a job?

>Clean elections means no corporate money and no lobbyist in washington
>He didn't vote Dem or Rep.

He wants tyranny by simple majority. Such is the fate of every nation which dabbles in democracy.

Every sociology/psychology program today is loaded with cultural Marxist classes taught by Marxist professors who demand you tow the line to get a good grade. Even STEM majors are starting to be forced to take 1-2 Marxist indoctrination classes for general education at some universities. I'm not even talking about classes like humanities, which are still good classes if your professor isn't a Marxist. I mean shit like gender studies and other anti-white male indoctrination classes.

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It's their fucking fault for not saving for education or studying for a stable high paying job.
You're basically saying "let the idiots keep making mistakes until they finally figured it out".

I want to be there too, because then education would be affordable and hopefully future generations will past at it and say "Thank the Aesir we don't have gender studies majors anymore".

Isn't it pretty well-accepted that campuses have been radical left since the 1960s? This has been institutionalized: normal courses on history have been replaced with critical theory ones, not anymore studying general World War II history for example, just a course on some minority group during WWII. Just open a syllabus and see how many race, gender and class courses there are.

>Indoctrinate U documentary (2007)
youtube.com/watch?v=WHyvRHrYYBA

I live in a reasonably good social 'state' (NZ)
with massively subsidized free universal healthcare for all citizens.

I do -get- how lucky I am for all of that, considering how I hear in america just getting sick can ruin your life forever with medical bills.

Its pretty obvious theres no way we can have bottomless immigration as well as our quality of subsidised healthcare.

One, or the other, but not both.

Education is no longer free here.