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>It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave, and the world will know that I was right.
Nathaniel Reyes
Hail victory!
Brandon Lee
SIEG HEIL!
Zachary Murphy
Got a pretty controversial opinion here, but despite civic nationalism not being viable, I'm actually really happy that the current "war" is the right saying "civic nationalism is the solution, not ethnic nationalism."
Couple of reasons. First, let's be real. The vast majority of people are still bluepilled on Nazism and are disgusted by the entire prospect... there isn't going to be a NatSoc revolution coming out of the blue and taking the world by storm like in 1933. However, I'm seeing a lot of "normies" on the right talking about civic nationalism and its benefits. Regardless of it being the wrong sort of nationalism, the fact that nationalism is becoming the norm is a fantastic thing, because that sets the stage for better forms of nationalism to be normalized.
Think about it, if our countries embrace civic nationalism, we end up going away from globalism and the left overall, and we can once again be proud of culture. However, inevitably as the years tick by, people will see the divisions between race and it will be more and more apparrent that the nonwhites are dragging down the nationalism and culture, and more and more people will drift to ethnic nationalism.
It's the long game, but I think that's how it will play out. Right now ethnic nationalism is the extreme, even amongst redpilled people. If regular nationalism can be normalized and accepted by society, then we are already on the road to fascism and the next stop is ethnic nationalism.
Thoughts?
John Anderson
Member when Hitler lost WW2?
>natural selection exists >National Socialism works Pick one.
Aaron Sanchez
>all of communism and allied states vs germany and italian meme army >works >communism >only communism killed the soviets
Jace Ward
>doesn't understand evolution No wonder you're a NatSoc
Jackson Russell
Member when the Jews won WW2? >natural selection exists >you are not dying from a parasite pick one
Connor Davis
Wow, NatSoc BTFO by Communism AND jews. Sucks to be you. Please refer to original argument and try again.
Justin Roberts
The way I see it for every 1 natsoc zealot we create we create 10 civic nationalists, and 100 conservatives (from liberalism) through the efforts of that 1 zealot. It sort of emanates, see. The liklihood of a fascist state anytime soon doesn't matter, however spreading information does, and it has very, very real world effects. Not to sound like a fag, but never underestimate the power just one dedicated user can have, no matter his IQ, and that includes anyone reading this.
Jacob Thompson
>an argument
Asher Robinson
Good guys don't always win fag
Luke Taylor
>understands natural selection Gold star for you
Anthony Lewis
And for you
Tyler James
>or every 1 natsoc zealot we create we create 10 civic nationalists The Overton WIndow seems to have a pyramid-shaped tail, as it slouches to the Right.
>something, something, muh Jewish supremacy Looking real "supreme" with all those hereditary illnesses, Shlomo
Nolan Wood
Argument loading... failed. See Pick one faggot.
Owen Howard
Molymemes loading...failed
Jacob Morales
>Argument loading... failed.
kek the autism
Jaxon Reyes
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Nicholas Scott
Go on
Eli Johnson
>kek the autism National Socialism failed mate. Prove me wrong.
Brandon Williams
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Ryan Lopez
You act as if the third reich is still happening, it is over and now we have to reform it and bring it back
Alot of retarded ideologies have alot of power right now with next to no rational thinking behind them
At least natsoc has some merit, you cunt
Alexander Miller
Your argument sucks and has no bearing > hurr they lost that means their views are incorrect Keep bumping the thread though
Austin Brown
>National Socialism failed, prove me wrong
NatSoc worked in peacetime, it was brought down by war, not by failed policies (like communism)
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 3) >"National Socialism / Fascism was a failed system"
It's intellectually dishonest to label something that was forcibly crushed a "failed system", implying that a nation bombed into collapse during war is comparable to a system imploding politically during peace-time. The Soviet system failed, as did the Roman Empire, and every Chinese or Ottoman dynasty. Some of these examples of government lasted thousands of years, while some didn't last more than a generation. All forms of government inevitably fail. This has been true since ancient times. Polybius famously articulated this process of Anacyclosis: social organization paradigms rise, fail, and give way to further systems. This is the cycle of history.
Fascism is not a failed system, it was a defeated system: A.) it was not an economic system, but a social one; B.) the so-called "failed system" had a control group: the US. Both Germany, Italy, and the US were operating under Keynesean policies; only one of them won the war, and experienced a massive period of growth once their industrial rivals were destroyed. So no, it wasn't a failed system, because both sides were using it, including the side that won.
>Fascism is not a failed system, it was a defeated system: Doesn't understand natural selection An non-practiced system is practically the same as a destroyed one
Leafbros, Is buying Nazi paraphernalia legal here in Canada?
Parker Lee
It's legal in bongland so i would say yes
Asher Allen
>claims system failed >system known to have been violently suppressed >claims being suppressed is now failure >wuts moving the goalpost?
James Richardson
fuck the commies. dump your anti-communist memes
Ryan Johnson
based rare nepal
Lincoln Hill
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Andrew Murphy
Fucking hell
Xavier Hernandez
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Andrew Sanchez
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Noah Barnes
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Easton Butler
PRfags go in a gas chamber
Adam Richardson
I know it is in your interest to obscure the argument Let's start from the top, as clear as crystal so you can't sabotage it: Natural selection exists National Socialism was defeated Therefore it failed
If you do not participate you cannot adapt If you cannot adapt you die NatSoc failed.
>I know it is in your interest to obscure the argument Impugning my motives! Another tactic shift!
Asher Rivera
Ignoring the argument. Failure.
Joshua Sanders
>Ignoring the argument no argument made means no argument acknowledged
Brody Butler
You are slippery like a worm.
Does Natural Selection exist, Yes or no?
Cooper Sanders
Aussie shitposting again.
Hudson Flores
Do these threads run 24-7?
Hunter Peterson
Biological natural selection.
A small German country with its Italian friend conquered one of the world's biggest empires and almost beat the second one.
I'd say national socialism did fine you Dingo faggot.
Eli Clark
>Natural selection exists >National Socialism was defeated >If you do not participate you cannot adapt >If you cannot adapt you die >NatSoc failed.
Someone please answer.
Camden Hughes
i dont have much on my phone but dumping what i have
Sebastian Martinez
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Carter Fisher
>13 posts
Joshua Sullivan
>systems failing =/= countries being conquered >any system can be conquered >it's an illogical conflation and non-argument What are the 4 pillars of an argument, do you know?
Lincoln Roberts
Let's start from a little bit back, eh, colonial?
>Natural selection exists. >So I'll apply it to everything >I dropped a glass, it broke, never use a glass again! Use plastic beakers!
Plenty of flaws have been pointed out anyway in your argument. Where does natural selection leave you silly lot anyway, Rejects sent as far from the homeland as possible? And what of the sabre-tooth tiger in a natural selection argument anyway?
Lucas Moore
Yes however >Treating a government type like a Animal competing in the wild literally retarded.
By your definition if this natsoc "Animal" was to vs either the communist or the democratic "Animals" in a 1v1 the fascist one would win therefore proving it's supperity
If a human with a gun dies to a crocodile and a pack of lions that doesn't make these animals superior to humans the human just got ganged up on
Xavier Flores
Already answered you autistic faggot Check here
Thomas Ward
>>I dropped a glass But we have lots of glasses there is redundancy. There is no more National Socialism, no redundancy.
Jackson Reed
captcha: coffee
Colton Watson
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Henry King
>systems failing =/= countries being conquered Same result as it applies to natural selection.
Juan Cox
Fuck a based colonial. You make up for his sins somewhat. Now go and fucking kill him, for the Empire. It's your duty lad!
Carson King
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Liam Morales
>in a 1v1 the fascist one would win no, that's your fallacy in reverse; you're offering a rhetorical trap to get others to accept your flawed premises: if we bite and agree to a formulation of your logic that excuses the loss in battle, we tacitly approve your conflation of "the soundness of a social system" with "being vulnerable to conquest".
Every system is vulnerable to conquest, so we reject your attempt at jewery.
Jacob Watson
>german barbarians were better than the romans
Good meme, surely there are no other factors amirite
Jordan Smith
Only the result matters. Adaption depends on context not abstractions like '1v1 me bro'.
Jaxson Smith
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Jaxon King
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Mason Gutierrez
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Jose Martin
>Implies people keep a backup state in storage. But if Australia is just a concept in the mind of individuals, how can it be real, or justified? How can anything?
If you want to make funny irrelevant comparisons, go to plebbit and seem enlightened. Jesus. I think he's really a leaf. Aussies are better than this usually.
Kevin Martinez
>Every system is vulnerable to conquest But are they conquered? Do you know how natural selection works?
Adrian Morales
based
Brandon Foster
Where did all the romans go? Did the roman empire meme/system return? Germans survived.