Grand Rapids' socialist vegan restaurant flops

>Grand Rapids' worker-run, no-tipping restaurant closes

>Bartertown's initial menu was described in an MLive review as an "imaginative" array of veggie, vegan and raw dishes that came with names like Dirty Dirty Beans & Greens and Raw Trash salad.

>Bartertown was a collective, which meant there were no bosses, according to Cappelletti. The inspiration for the worker-owned restaurant was based on Cappelletti's own restaurant experience.

>"Because of our economy, people are working 12- to-15-hour shifts, servers take home $200 to $300 a night in tips, the cooks are making $10 an hour[ed.that’s unfair!] and the owner takes whatever he takes [ed. he takes whatever’s left, it’s called “profit.” Or, as the collective learned “loss” when you fail to cover your costs.] Cappelletti told MLive. "We're going to have equal pay and equal say across the board. Everyone working together."

>In keeping with the worker empowerment theme, he commissioned a mural depicting Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara, Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong and other provocative leaders tackling restaurant duties.

>“The bar’s operation as a collective no longer seemed feasible,” writes Harburg in “Consensus.” “In years past, a few dedicated employees had always emerged as informal leaders. But over the past decade, this had happened less and less frequently. Most of the employees of the ’90s lacked the idealism of earlier workers and weren’t committed to a collective.”

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>Communism can't even keep a restaurant open
Somehow these idiots think a country could run this way

more proof that marx was wrong about human nature.

Isn't Grand Rapids the only redpilled big city in Michigan?

>idolizing Mao
>probably hates hitler

Commies will still defend communism even after all the evidence that it does not work.

The problem with socialism is that it puts unqualified people in all the wrong places.

There's still a lot of liberals there. Michigan is the most Red liberal state, it's a weird contradiction. We love guns, jacked up trucks, and general redneck shit, but the libs in Detroit still keep voting Dems in.

Detroit used to be really red pilled until the auto industry collasped, then all the red pills moved away. Grand Rapids is having its own little "Renaissance" with a lot of gentrification in some of the shittier neighborhoods.

I'm not surprised in the least that some college age liberal hippies thought they could make a "collective" restaurant work. Grand Rapids is big, but liberal shit is mostly limited to the art galleries and colleges.

Who run Bartertown?
Nobody.

>In keeping with the worker empowerment theme, he commissioned a mural depicting Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara, Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong and other provocative leaders tackling restaurant duties.

JUST

No, that's Lansing

Haha!
Master Blaster run BarterTown

I remember my dad told me about when he visited communist Poland that the restaurants are awful. People couldn't lose their jobs or earn more if more motivated. And why work more? You'll only tire yourself out. The incentive problem is one of the main reasons communism fails.

The only reason Detroit didn't single handedly turn us blue this election is because niggers have been leaving the city en masse recently. The city used to have over a million people now it has barely 700k

this wasn't real communism, its syndicalism or anarcho-socialism.

>informal leaders
so they basically survived by violating hteir own socialist ethos and when they could no longer they failed immediately.

MN is the same way, the shitties and to a lesser extent Duluth have the state in a chokehold.

so... no meatballs?

>Putting Che and Mao in the decor
>not immediately being put to the torch by the neighbors

what is wrong with this country.

Why attribute the failure to collectivism instead of the food being shit?

We need to buy it and reopen.

Surprise, now its a sexy commie strip club. Now nobody can complain about the food

So why do the cooks end up with less money than people that only server the food and take down an order?

Communism can't even run a fucking restaurant successfully.
Oh, but of course that probably wasn't real Communism.

Lololol good. Get the fuck out of my city.

They could have a smashing business success if only they added an underground pizzeria

>worker run
>no tipping
>this establishment actually existing

Communism is cool now, goy! It's trendy! People's revolution and all that!

Imagine if it had been the 50s when they reopened that restaurant.

Comrade, why it take so long for you to make sandwich

Because even if i waste whole hour making 1 meal instead of 10, i still get paid and we have no boss that can fire me

Nuking East Town would be a great start to fixing Grand Rapids

LOL I used to live in Grand Rapids.

The kids that ran this joint were total snobs.

"Most of the employees of the 90's lacked the idealism of earlier workers and weren't committed to a collective"

THATS BECAUSE YOUR IDEA WAS A SHAM TO BEGIN WITH AND PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY THEIR BILLS

Detroit fag checkin in

SHADILAY

Looking the place up, they weren't all bad, they sent a free meal to the local police and get a bunch a hate mail from the identity politics libshits about supporting evil white police officers

At its peak in the 70's Detroit a population of 2.5 million.

Amen.

I can't wait until someone tries a REAL communist vegan restaurant.

>communism

>people who carry food 3 meters for a living make more than trained professionals and still think they should get more.

At least this place had one correct idea

Memes aside user, the point of being a free country is dealing with points of view we don't like. We just need to ensure those points of view never have power.

yeah I'd be ok with that. The only thing I enjoyed about East Town was knowing I was on my way to Gas Light Village when I went through it lol.

Sounds about right. A lot of the "cultural" food joints died out fast. It's like they thought Grand Rapids was little San Francisco or something? I don't even remember that African restaurant ever being open, the one downtown on Medical Mile.

Hey GR bro

Detroit bro here

Hows the west side?

>Communism can't even keep a restaurant open
considering everyone knows commies always end up starving to death it's pretty fitting

Inb4 it wasn't a real restaurant

Also it disincentivises work.

Also it makes high-potential people bitter.

Also it makes low-performers even lazier.

All around a shit idea for shit people.

>trying to create a microcosm of communism within Capitalism
>idealising Che Guevara and Mao Zedong

First in the gulag

It's alright. Grand Rapids is still growing, lots of jobs in the area. I've spent the last 6 months in da UP though for college. There's like 2 feet of snow outside right now

So the food being bad would have nothing to do with the way the restaurant is run?

Maybe they should model the old system of monarchy where one person owned things and was thus incentivized to see it prosper. Can't put my finger on how that would work in the business world... bah, dreams.

Nah, Duluth went red this year. It''s nogs and the spice that travel to the state for the A+ gibmes

Well see what they tried wasn't TRUE Communism because they had leaders there goy.

>Most of the employees of the ’90s lacked the idealism of earlier workers and weren’t committed to a collective

clearly the solution is a cultural revolution to instill marxist-leninist ideological zeal in the youth

Putting up pictures of old queens wouldn't be as cool, faggot.

Reading the article, Customers couldn't stand the service, orders took long times to get filled, the restaurant had odd operational hours, most likely since people could decide how long they felt like working, prices were high since they had to pay the same wage to all of the workers along with covering operational costs. It was never going to succeed.

No, we should make it a fashy diner. Waiters in Hugo Boss goose-stepping out with your order. One oven for prepping meals and another for the jews.

Why are veganism and communism so caught up in each other, anyway?

Well, desu senpai, I've been working real fucking hard spreadin the word with all the shit I've saved from pol over the years.

I've probably redpilled 30-50 other men and sent them everything useful from my phone.

If each of them is freaked out after the shit I show them (they always are) and just shows two people each, and then those two people show two people each....

I honestly think I single-handedly redpilled a good percentage of the fresh meat at the university. The word will only continue to spread; so shall the fire rise.


Yeah, Grand Rapids is nice... Now ;)

special snowflakes. It's even easier with communism. You can just say you're part of it without changing shit.

if you are stupid enough to believe in one you are a clear target for the other

They both hate their parents.

Why bother when the commies will run down their own restaurant without your lifting a finger? Delegation and efficiency are key principles of capitalism

>little erika's flashy fashy diner

Empathy

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Here's what we play

Sup Michiganbros?

Ann Arbor here.

Send help. For the love of God send help.

I wouldn't eat something called "Raw Trash Salad" regardless of it's business ideology.

sauce? what movie is this?

Its ok because it wasn't a real restaurant.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
>your next line will be: that wasn't TRUE Communism(tm)

It wasn't a real restaurant

Also the restaurant was sabotaged

>Grand Rapids is having its own little "Renaissance" with a lot of gentrification in some of the shittier neighborhoods
I was surprised that the county was only slightly red this election, thought it would be a Trump stronghold. Guess that explains it, over-educated whites moving in.

The problem is that people in mentoring positions fill the soft heads of youth with painted pictures of how great this or that is; instead of being objective about all systems.

These kids grow up pinko and learn the hard way that it just doesn't work, hopefully they commit suicide before they fill another head with stupid ideas.

>servers take home $200 to $300 a night in tips

$300 a night
x 5 nights a week
x 4 weeks a month
x 12 months a year
= $72,000

... where are these restaurants where servers average $300 a night and how do I apply to them?

I think that just applies to Friday/Saturday.

that wasn't TRUE Communism(tm)

>checked
Where's /leftypol/? Those faggots should be shilling in this thread by now.

YEAH WELL ANY POOSKIN WHO HAS EVER STARVED TO DEATH IS CAPITALISM'S FAULT

Most restaurants in a big city to be honest. $200-$300 is a lot, but not unheard of by any means. I'm a bartender and some of the guys I know working in Baltimore, NYC, etc make an easy 80k per year.

The reason most people believe service industry doesn't pay well is because most servers are fucking degenerate idiots who see they have $1200 in cash and piss it away on booze and drugs and then wonder why they're so poor.

Of course a communist society can't survive within an oppressive framework of capitalist competition that reduces wages to bare subsistence. That's why it's only real communism when every last bourgeois capitalist abuser is dragged from his so-called property and killed in a violent global uprising of the awakened proletarian collective, silly!

fucking underage get out

If I was a waiter, I'd want to be doped up on something all my waking hours too

Yup. A lot of douchey numale architects and artists are being brought in and enticed by the thought of sprucing up the low income neighborhoods, thus "benefiting the down trodden" and scoring some good property deals for themselves. My buddy used to live right next door to one o those guys.

And all the art schools and art galleries perpetuate the liberal attitude. What's great though is they put that homeless shelter right on that avenue where Kendell and some of the other artsy bullshit is.

So you have this amazing clash of "pretty useless liberal bullshit" right fucking next to all these legitimately poor needy homeless people that the libs just walk right fucking past. Like fucking poetry, they'll spend hours bitching online about the rights of the lower class but they don't life a fucking finger when they walk past dozens on the sidewalk each day.

2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.

lansing is infested with sjws, cucks, and niggers. it is NOT redpilled

>2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
>2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
>2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
>2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
>2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
>2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.
2011 - 2016 = pretty good run.

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Fucking hell I wish I made $200-$300 a night. Fucking crybabies.

It's honestly not that bad. I guess it's stressful but when I was working as a carpenter, that was stressful too in a different way. Dealing with people sucks and always will, that's why you go on long nature walks with your dogs on your days off. Or go see a movie alone. There's plenty of positive ways to decompress without filling your body with liquid jew.

Service industry just tends to attract a certain type of individual. Not necessarily only unskilled workers, though there are a lot of them. Some my co workers are either in grad school or already finished, and have day jobs and just serve for some extra cash, and they're still fucking degenerates.

You too can make that much a night if you are willing to take some cocks in thr ass.

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>People frequently noted on the restaurant’s Facebook page that they waited more than 40 minutes for a sandwich....It turns out, in a shocking revelation to the store’s management, that those Soviet bread lines were a bug, not a feature of Communism.

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP.
THEY HAD FUCKING BREADLINES!!!

>more than trained professionals
The cook in the back of 9/10 restaurants is not a "trained professional". He may work more than the server but lets not get carried away..

What arguments could they use to defend it?

Enjoying your literal hippies and actual street urchins?

Because fuck Ann Arbor and fuck the college administrators who have that city+county in a choke hold of bullshit policies.

It truly was the real thing. True communism.

The tax payers paid for this by the way.

>Enjoying your literal hippies and actual street urchins?

Not really, mate.

>Because fuck Ann Arbor and fuck the college administrators who have that city+county in a choke hold of bullshit policies.

Fucking agreed. This place is a pisshole. Apparently there's a pretty strong contingent of alt-righters on campus though. I'm trying to figure out how to get into contact with them to help put flyers up and shit.

I dunno, probably something about the capitalist system being stacked against them or some other horseshit.

At least no one died this time.

Witnessed.

You could too if you perform well and don't mind tossing some salad.

Both are symptons of oversocialization.

>you idiots can't even read
In a true communist reasturant the food would be free.

>Mao Zedong and other provocative leaders tackling restaurant duties.
No wonder why the customers were starving

Thousands of vegetables died to keep that slaughterhouse in business. Check your FUCKING mammalian privilege, shitlord!