Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio Juan Perón
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
Zachary Hill
>CAPITALISM VS CORPORATISM >CAPITALISM "Capitalism is . . . a method of industrial production. To employ the most comprehensive definition: Capitalism is a method of mass production for mass consumption, financed en masse by the emission of private, national and international capital. Capitalism is therefore industrial and has not had in the field of agriculture any manifestation of great bearing.
I would mark in the history of capitalism three periods: the dynamic period, the static period and the period of decline. The dynamic period was that from 1830 to 1870. It coincided with the introduction of weaving by machinery and with the appearance of the locomotive. Manufacturing, the typical manifestation of industrial capitalism, expanded. This was the epoch of great expansion and hence of the law of free competition ; the struggle of all against all had full play. In this period there were crises, but they were cyclical crises, neither long nor universal. Capitalism still had such vitality and such power of recovery that it could brilliantly pravail.
There were also wars. They cannot be compared with the World War. They were brief. Even the War of 1870, with its tragic days at Sedan, took no more than a couple of seasons.
Lucas Allen
>CAPITALISM CONT the theorists of liberalism could say: "You, the State, have a single duty. It is to see to it that your administration does not in the least turn toward the economic sector. The better you govern the less you will occupy yourself with the problems of the economic realm." We find, therefore, that economy in all its forms was limited only by the penal and commercial codes. But after 1870, this epoch underwent a change. There was no longer the struggle for life, free competition, the selection of the strongest. There became manifest the first symptoms of the fatigue and the devolution of the capitalistic method. There began to be agreements, syndicates, corporations, trusts. One may say that there was not a sector of economic life in the countries of Europe and America where these forces which characterize capitalism did not appear.
What was the result? The end of free competition. Restricted as to its borders, capitalistic enterprise found that, rather than fight, it was better to concede, to ally, to unite by dividing the markets and sharing the profits. The very law of demand and supply was now no longer a dogma, because through the combines and the trusts it was possible to control demand and supply.
Gavin Butler
>CORPORATISM "If today I am better off practically, I owe it to the institutions which the Fascist revolution has created."
We want the Italian workers, those who are interested in their status as Italians, as workers, as Fascists, to feel that we have not created institutions solely to give form to our doctrinal schemes, but in order, at a certain moment, to give positive, concrete, practical and tangible results.
Our State is not an absolute State. Still less is it an absolutory State,remote from men and armed only with inflexible laws, as laws ought to be. Our State is one organic, human State which wishes to adhere to the realities of life. . .
Today we bury economic liberalism. The corporation plays on the economic terrain just as the Grand Council and the militia play on the political terrain. Corporationism is disciplined economy, and from that comes control, because one cannot imagine a discipline without a director.
Corporationism is above socialism and above liberalism. A new synthesis is created. It is a symptomatic fact that the decadence of capitalism coincides with the decadence of socialism. All the Socialist parties of Europe are in fragments.
Ayden Baker
>CORPORATISM CONT We have rejected the theory of the economic man, the Liberal theory, and we are, at the same time, emancipated from what we have heard said about work being a business. The economic man does not exist; the integral man, who is political, who is economic, who is religious, who is holy, who is combative, does exist
Let us ask a final question: Can corporationism be applied to other countries? We are obliged to ask this question because it will be asked in all countries where people are studying and trying to understand us. There is no doubt that, given the general crisis of capitalism, corporative solutions can be applied anywhere. But in order to make corporationism full and complete, integral, revolutionary, certain conditions are required.
Ayden Torres
>WHAT ARE THESE CERTAIN CONDITIONS? There must be a single party through which, aside from economic discipline, enters into action also political discipline, which shall serve as a chain to bind the opposing factions together, and a common faith.
But this is not enough. There must be the supremacy of the State, so that the State may absorb, transform and embody all the energy, all the interests, all the hopes of a people.
Still, not enough. The third and last and the most important condition is that there must be lived a period of the highest ideal tension.
We are now living in this period of high, ideal tension. It is because step by step we give force and consistency to all our acts; we translate in part all our doctrine. How can we deny that this, our Fascista, is a period of exalted, ideal tension?
No one can deny it. This is the time in which arms are crowned with victory. Institutions are remade, the land is redeemed, cities are founded.
Eli James
>CORPORATISM EXPLAINED Corporatism was invented for fascism by National Syndicalists. Corporatism is the main economic system a facist society will use. The goal of corporatism is to bring every major interest group or "corporate group" into working towards a common goal for the state. This allows for the state to easily regulate every corporate group and decide what is "good" and what is "harmful" for the state, anything deemed harmful will be banned by the state.
Kevin Long
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Jason Rogers
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Blake Watson
Il Duce: he made the trains run on time and so much more
Lucas Collins
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Asher Russell
Brilliant architecture too.
Daniel Evans
The trains were finally always on time.
Asher Jenkins
...this is commonly a joke here bro
in reality, he actually didn't do that it was part of his propaganda but it never actually happened, that's why it's funny
Colton James
Fascism is not nationalism. We live in a fascist state, where we are told what to think, what the moral good is. Those who disagree are shunned, fined, sued, or brought to a court of law. It is the tool of an ideology rejected by the people.
Ayden Diaz
>we live in fascist state >two party system >Democracy >capitalistic No, we really do not live in a fascist state, and also fascism is as ultra nationalistic as a people could be, perhaps even beyond.
Hudson Mitchell
Also wrong, he actually partially ruined many historic cities like Rome and Turin (Vatican City is 90% less impressive now that you can see it from long distances, it was designed to be seen as something huge but deeply hidden within the city). Look at pic related: can you spot the shitty ugly crappy thing that doesn't belong there? That's fascist architecture
Kayden Ward
Is this the face of a man rejected by the people?
Daniel Morgan
>shitty
Landon Price
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Landon Jones
It wouldn't really be a problem if it was simply tasteless. Thing is, they made already beautiful cities worse by adding unrelated stuff that simply doesn't fit with the preexisting style.
Sure they left a few nice looking structures, but fascism was overall a pretty shitty era for Italian architecture
Christian Lewis
Maybe so, it was just apart of the image Mussolini had in restoring the essence and glory of old Rome.
Parker Torres
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Aiden Hill
>they made already beautiful cities worse by adding unrelated stuff that simply doesn't fit with the preexisting style. The Eternal Italian criticism of anything new. You realize you can read tirades written during the Renaissance against most architecture or sculpture now regarded as genius. Italians always have this kind of reaction, to keep their own greatness firmly in the past. So bizarre.
